New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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aznfknpride

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Nice! I'm running 34awg twisted coils now so need a 3/4. Your setup looks clean.

Holy moly, just did the math. @3.7v you're pulling 15watts? Wow, my sweet spot is between 8-9 so I target 1.6ohm to 1.8ohm :laugh:

Yeah, I can only use this coil on mechanical mods.. the amp limit on the Provari prevents me from getting the wattage I like. I have to bump the coil up to 2.2-2.5ohms and run it at ~6v to attain ~19 watts

A fresh batt kills it, almost 20 watts lol... that's where the DID shines. The small wick in my Orion just can't keep up with the wattages I vape at. The fat wick in the DID always stays wet, most of the time I can vape at like 4 or 5 o'clock, don't even really need to invert the DID at all to keep it wet.

I end up changing batts at 3.5v-3.6v.
 

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Rweschler is a vaping monster... lol he pushes 20+ watts on the regular IIRC.. pretty sure he has a video of him vaping at like 30 watts? I'm not sure though.


I just kept chasing a hotter vape, not sure I can handle much more than 20 right now. The Kick has been sitting collecting dust for a couple months now lol
 

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..made me feel like a baby so I cranked up the V's to get me to 9 1/2 watts! (and when I stopped coughing put it back to 8 1/2). I guess in the debate about flavor/vapor/TH, TH is the least pleasing for me. Very cool these things are tunable to all of our vaping pleasures :toast:
 

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Rweschler is a vaping monster... lol he pushes 20+ watts on the regular IIRC.. pretty sure he has a video of him vaping at like 30 watts? I'm not sure though.

I just kept chasing a hotter vape, not sure I can handle much more than 20 right now. The Kick has been sitting collecting dust for a couple months now lol

Out of curiosity, how do you not get that burnt taste with that much heat?
 

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At 20 watts... it's just a matter of keeping that wick wet. Mine looks like a straw, I seriously don't have to tilt it to keep it wet. Sometimes I flood the wick while tilting it resulting in poor vapor production.

As for the flavor, I predominantly vape a 100% VG DIY menthol juice, so there is always flavor lol. Sometimes the menthol is too much and I end up gagging from the cloud and the menthol throat hit. I do have some higher ohm coils that I vape around 14 watts with, some flavors just don't do so well with that much heat.
 

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So couple of questions... I seem to have a decent setup going with my second try and wrapping a coil. I believe it's a 2/3 wrap sitting at 1.4~ ohms. When firing with the cap off, I don't see any hot spots nor does my Provari give me any error messages (though I did get a couple of E8 errors which is strange...though all seems to be ok atm)

Anyway, flavor seems decent, not intense like some are reporting, but decent. Would hot spots still show through if the coil/wick is wet with juice? I'm afraid to poke/twist/prod too much to attempt an improvement. I still have some breaking in to do, so things may continue to improve.

I guess I'm just being pessimistic, as I was sure I'd have more trouble than I'm having, but without much experience I wouldn't know if there's room for improvement, ya know?
 

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having a bit of an odd time with my DID.

I have tried everything... 1.6 Kanthal D, 2.0 Kanthal D, Nichrome and so on. 2/3 wrap, 3/4 wrap, 4/5 wrap... I always always end up with a coil at about 0.9 - 1.1 ohm no matter what.

I don't get it.. When creating the coil it often ends up at about 2.0-2.2 ohms, but it drops quickly to about the 0.9-1.1 ohms...

I don't know what to do... I'd like a coil at 1.5-1.7 ohms or higher.. but have no idea how to get it there anymore...

Any thoughts, ideas? I get no hotspots, and it works... but yes... would like a bit higher number of ohms.
 

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having a bit of an odd time with my DID.

I have tried everything... 1.6 Kanthal D, 2.0 Kanthal D, Nichrome and so on. 2/3 wrap, 3/4 wrap, 4/5 wrap... I always always end up with a coil at about 0.9 - 1.1 ohm no matter what.

I don't get it.. When creating the coil it often ends up at about 2.0-2.2 ohms, but it drops quickly to about the 0.9-1.1 ohms...

I don't know what to do... I'd like a coil at 1.5-1.7 ohms or higher.. but have no idea how to get it there anymore...

Any thoughts, ideas? I get no hotspots, and it works... but yes... would like a bit higher number of ohms.
I think 6 coils is a good number. Try the 7/6 wrap?
 

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Something I just stumbled upon (adapted from CW's advice): To determine which mesh you have in your hands, hold both of them up and look through them onto your computer screen. Keep the non-looking eye closed and move back slowly. The 325 will allow the words on the computer screen to be a little more legible further back than the 400, which really starts to obstruct the words on the screen.

p.s. Thanks CW!
Great tip!!! Thanks to you both!
 

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So couple of questions... I seem to have a decent setup going with my second try and wrapping a coil. I believe it's a 2/3 wrap sitting at 1.4~ ohms. When firing with the cap off, I don't see any hot spots nor does my Provari give me any error messages (though I did get a couple of E8 errors which is strange...though all seems to be ok atm)

Anyway, flavor seems decent, not intense like some are reporting, but decent. Would hot spots still show through if the coil/wick is wet with juice? I'm afraid to poke/twist/prod too much to attempt an improvement. I still have some breaking in to do, so things may continue to improve.

I guess I'm just being pessimistic, as I was sure I'd have more trouble than I'm having, but without much experience I wouldn't know if there's room for improvement, ya know?

I would take a break and just vape it like it is for at least a day. Let the juices do their thing.
The volt, the ohm, and the soak all make a huge difference as well as the type of flavor on that ohm/volt/soak.
Some will be outrageously better with the DID and some will remain the same as they always did. (muted, but cleaner).
It's a tough call, because your ohm/volt/ and juice each take a priority while creating a single outcome.
If your juice is wicked good on a different atty, then heck yeh, toy with yours until it behaves right! (but give it a day to break in first).
 

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Hi Uma,

Does one need a thicker wick to have thicker vapor? I'm getting very thin vapor with 4/5 wraps with 1.6ohms.

Try to make mesh wick as fat as possible. Use the key provided with the set and roll it on it. It should look like a tube and just fit the whole! Yes, it makes a difference in terms of vapor production. I had the same issue with my first wick...
 

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having a bit of an odd time with my DID.

I have tried everything... 1.6 Kanthal D, 2.0 Kanthal D, Nichrome and so on. 2/3 wrap, 3/4 wrap, 4/5 wrap... I always always end up with a coil at about 0.9 - 1.1 ohm no matter what.

I don't get it.. When creating the coil it often ends up at about 2.0-2.2 ohms, but it drops quickly to about the 0.9-1.1 ohms...

I don't know what to do... I'd like a coil at 1.5-1.7 ohms or higher.. but have no idea how to get it there anymore...

Any thoughts, ideas? I get no hotspots, and it works... but yes... would like a bit higher number of ohms.

If the coil alone reads at 2 and then you add the wick and it drops to 1, either

1) your nuts are loosening up somewhere, this has happened to me, and its always the top nut

2) you're coils are shorting through the wick and conducting through it, dropping your resistance

I would troubleshoot one, and keep re checking your resistance

If that's not it, turn the wick gently counter to the direction its wrapped in preferably so it doesn't 'unravel' re check ohms. Do it again, re check ohms. Slide it up and down a bit if that doesn't work. Re check.

Eventually it will lock in at 2.
 

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Something I just stumbled upon (adapted from CW's advice): To determine which mesh you have in your hands, hold both of them up and look through them onto your computer screen. Keep the non-looking eye closed and move back slowly. The 325 will allow the words on the computer screen to be a little more legible further back than the 400, which really starts to obstruct the words on the screen.

p.s. Thanks CW!


This

I've seen most people on the forum saying that their lower number mesh is more stiff and tough then their higher number mesh

I took multiple samples to work and threw them under the microscope

the stiffest was 170 (which a friend sent me, thinking it was 325)

the most soft and pliable was 270

325 a little more firm, 400 a little more firm than that

I think without a scope the most reliable way to do this is try and look through it as Mann described.
 

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People having vapor troubles, keep in mind

1) wicks need anywhere from 1-2 tanks to break in, whereupon vapor and flavor and wicking all increase significantly

2) I find regardless of a dense or not dense wick, thick or thin wick, I don't get the vapor at lets say 4 volts and 2 ohms that you'd expect vs. a really top notch atomizer (e.g. .357) unless your draw is sorted. Long, even, primer puffs, all that.

The steel is a bit of a heat sink too, so for me, I need slightly higher voltage than I'd expect at a given ohm.

If your wick isn't wicking well because its not broken in or whatever, then vaping more horizontal will increase your vapor. If your wick is a beast, then vaping horizontal will flood your coils and decrease your vapor.
 
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