Don't know what it means for delivery time, but they have posted pics on their FB page showing the VTR in production. At least they are being assembled!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...225.1073741837.266554740082712&type=1&theater
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Don't know what it means for delivery time, but they have posted pics on their FB page showing the VTR in production. At least they are being assembled!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...225.1073741837.266554740082712&type=1&theater
In the video it shows a button top. In most devices does it matter if you use a button top or flat top or are devices specific to one or another?
The VTR is pictured with an iClear 30. There is no VTR-specific atomizer.
The video shows a "VTR specific" atomizer, I've also seen plenty of pics showing the same iClear30S (latest tank from Innokin). Sites with pre-orders also refer to this same tank.
It can. I have some mods that will only work with a button top, some that will only work with a flat top, and some that will work with either. No way to really know if the VTR will work with a flat top until it gets in the hands of some users.
It is different. It does not have exposed wicks. No way to tell what's inside but not a plain old iclear30.
So this kit doesn't come with a battery, right?
ukecigstore.com are supposed to be UK distributors so should get theirs first? (Tell me if I'm wrong)
Their video says "recommend the AW IMR 18650 battery" (and show the 2000mAh going by colour), but they're out of stock!
The only other battery that says IMR, at ukecigstore.com, is the eFest:
Search - 18650
Further, the VTR specs say:
"Battery : IMR high drain 18650 ( without protection )"
Does this mean that higher capacity batteries (than 2000mAh), that are protected and don't say IMR, like the XTAR ones are not suitable?
ukecigstore.com are supposed to be UK distributors so should get theirs first? (Tell me if I'm wrong)
Their video says "recommend the AW IMR 18650 battery" (and show the 2000mAh going by colour), but they're out of stock!
The only other battery that says IMR, at ukecigstore.com, is the eFest:
Search - 18650
Further, the VTR specs say:
"Battery : IMR high drain 18650 ( without protection )"
Does this mean that higher capacity batteries (than 2000mAh), that are protected and don't say IMR, like the XTAR ones are not suitable?
I'm not familiar with the XTAR batteries......but most likely the answer is that they are not the right ones.
Vari devices that use one replaceable battery need high drain batteries to work properly and safer. The lMR is the chemistry designation for the AW's and Efests. lMR's have been also called safer chemistry batteries.
I'm sure you have heard of the Panasonic CGR18650CH. These batteries are a different chemistry but are also high drain and suitable for most single battery vari devices and some consider even safer chemistry "hybrid".
At this time I don't think anyone knows if the batteries also need to be button top. Some vv devices are made to require the use of a button top. But, if the UK store is saying AW's, it is an indication that the button tops fit appropriately. The question would be if the flat top lMR's would work.
Most protected batteries are a different chemistry and one that required protection to be on the safer side of things.
There are some other high drain batteries on the market, but I'm not proficient on all the names and #'s. To understand more about this one should study about amp limits and C ratings and other things besides just the mAh of a battery.
Vari devices that use one replaceable battery need high drain batteries to work properly and safer. The lMR is the chemistry designation for the AW's and Efests. lMR's have been also called safer chemistry batteries.
I'm sure you have heard of the Panasonic CGR18650CH. These batteries are a different chemistry but are also high drain and suitable for most single battery vari devices and some consider even safer chemistry "hybrid".
At this time I don't think anyone knows if the batteries also need to be button top. Some vv devices are made to require the use of a button top. But, if the UK store is saying AW's, it is an indication that the button tops fit appropriately. The question would be if the flat top lMR's would work.
Most protected batteries are a different chemistry and one that required protection to be on the safer side of things.
There are some other high drain batteries on the market, but I'm not proficient on all the names and #'s. To understand more about this one should study about amp limits and C ratings and other things besides just the mAh of a battery.
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The device maxes at 15 watts. From a single battery, that's about 4.5 amps max. An 18650 battery with a specified continuous discharge rate of 4C and up should be safe from a discharge perspective (assuming a capacity of around 2,000 mAh and allowing for a factor of safety).
From a battery chemistry perspective, IMR batteries are "safe" because of what they don't do if used beyond their limits. They generally don't explode or even burn.
From a protection circuit perspective, not all protected batteries will deliver 15 watts without cutting out.
So ... Would make sense to use unprotected IMR batteries with a specified continuous discharge rate of at least 4C (I don't know of any that low so any IMR should do, but check the specifications on the particular battery you plan to use).
From a battery chemistry perspective, IMR batteries are "safe" because of what they don't do if used beyond their limits. They generally don't explode or even burn.
From a protection circuit perspective, not all protected batteries will deliver 15 watts without cutting out.
So ... Would make sense to use unprotected IMR batteries with a specified continuous discharge rate of at least 4C (I don't know of any that low so any IMR should do, but check the specifications on the particular battery you plan to use).
This is what you want from your store:
Efest IMR 18650 V2 2000mAh 3.7V High Drain battery
This is even better--and more expensive--and out of stock:
AW IMR18650 Battery 2000mAh
And some good info:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4848-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected.html
Thanks all.
So the ideal, in terms at least of charge capacity, would be the Panasonic NCR18650B, of which Amazon has a pair for 20 quid?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-NCR18650B-UNPROTECTED-Capacity-Rechargeable/dp/B00AIOH9VG/
Still wondering about the ability to use certain other tanks. It looks beautiful but if you cant put what you want up there because of fit issues and that ring atop then It certainly would take alot away from it.... waiting for me info on that.
Interesting posts and photos at Innokin's FB page. So it appears that there will be two models, one plain grey/gun metal finish and one "jungle camo" version. The latter has the intersecting lines pattern printed plus the corny text "Taste it - Love it". The plain version apparently has only the logo on one side. Clearly, the plain version is the one I would prefer to get.
Yes, those are the Panny hybrids; they can also be had at Fasttech for a few bucks less, but I hear that their battery shipments are being held at customs. Amazon price is good and free shipping is always good.
That said, I have not used the Pannys yet so I can't vouch for them personally.
I've also heard that their mAh rating may be somewhat exaggerated.
Nah, You want the Panasonic NCR 18650PD or the new 18650PS. The 18650B is rated at 5 amps and should do fine, I am not sure of it's chemistry though . The first 2 I mentioned are the hybrid replacements/upgrades to the cgr18650ch. We are dealing with a mod that has protection, come to think of it, so any of these will probably be fine. The recommendation for an imr battery is what leads me to think the first 2 will be best.The 18650pd has tested best if these.I don't know of a test for the 18650pf yet.
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Why would I want a lower capacity battery that's not IMR when the 18650B is 3300mAh and IMR?
And why when I asked:
"Any indication when you'd get the recommended AW IMR18650 battery back in?
It seems like the only battery fitting their guidelines you have in is the eFest - am I wrong?
Can you confirm if this is compatible?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-NCR18650B-UNPROTECTED-Capacity-Rechargeable/dp/B00AIOH9VG"
are eCig Store telling me (which doesn't even make sense):
"Yes the efest and the IMR batteries are compaible, not the link provided."
(Even being generous and accepting that 'IMR' was a typo for 'AW', this answer does not inspire confidence)
And why when I asked:
"Any indication when you'd get the recommended AW IMR18650 battery back in?
It seems like the only battery fitting their guidelines you have in is the eFest - am I wrong?
Can you confirm if this is compatible?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-NCR18650B-UNPROTECTED-Capacity-Rechargeable/dp/B00AIOH9VG"
are eCig Store telling me (which doesn't even make sense):
"Yes the efest and the IMR batteries are compaible, not the link provided."
(Even being generous and accepting that 'IMR' was a typo for 'AW', this answer does not inspire confidence)
IMR is a type of battery, not a brand. Maybe that was the confusion?
I have AW and Efest and they both work great in my SVD. Can't see why they wouldn't work in the VTR.
I have AW and Efest and they both work great in my SVD. Can't see why they wouldn't work in the VTR.
Whose confusion? I know that. But what is "the efest and the IMR batteries" supposed to mean? My question to eCig Store was about the (AW and) eFest batteries which are IMRs.
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