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  1. Fictitious Character

    Fictitious Character Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2014
    USA
    Not sure about the Vamo fit but my wife's VTR is using the button tops, The button tops make it tighter to latch the battery door. After a little bit of compression the issue is no longer an issue. I would recommend flat tops from the beginning though.
     
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  2. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I use a Panasonic 2800mah button top in both my VTRs and Vamos with no problem. I second the idea that if it doesn't fit it may be a "protected" battery and is probably no suitable to use due to current limitations.
     
  3. Fictitious Character

    Fictitious Character Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2014
    USA
    That is what the wife uses as well.
     
  4. wjosephsimmons

    wjosephsimmons Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 27, 2013
    City of Angels
    You know awsum, it appears a button-top battery may still be "unprotected". I was under the impression that it was a distinguishing factor from unprotected cells, but a brief search turned up this illustration of a protected PCB battery; the button appears to be simply optional:

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    See: The Anatomy of a Protected Battery

    But I have read that you should not use a protected battery with the VTR due to the inherent protection circuitry in it. Something about it making it incompatible with a protected cell. For a thorough review, see Batitude's review here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/507844-question-about-itaste-vtr.html#post11709776
     
  5. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    IMR batteries, so called "unprotected" batteries, are made in both button top and flat top. I have both the Panasonic and Efest 18650s in button top IMR. I also have a number of Panasonic "CH" and LG "HE" in flat tops. They all work very nicely in both the VTR and Vamo. Bad attitude is definitely the "source" for battery advice an information.

    The whole "protected" battery thing is, I think, kind of a misnomer. IMR batteries, due to their internal chemistry which is designed to reduce the effects of thermal runaway, are actually "protected" by that very chemistry. Granted, there is no electronic protection circuit, or even a basic fuse, involved but the chemistry of modern, quality, unprotected batteries provides a level of protection that is quite substantial.

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    Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. The reader explicitly agrees to hold the poster free and harmless from an liability or responsibility. Your results an mileage may vary. I am not a chemist, physicist, engineer or physician nor do I play any of them on TV. I hold no recognized degrees in any area. Proceed at your own risk.
     
  6. wjosephsimmons

    wjosephsimmons Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 27, 2013
    City of Angels
  7. big4570

    big4570 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 19, 2014
    Ontario
    How are all the gen2 vtr's working? They have been out now for almost a year.
     
  8. RatInDaHat

    RatInDaHat Peace, I'm outta here Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2008
    Albuquerque, NM
    Mine has been going for about a year so far. Haven't even needed to use the backup vtr i ordered.
     
  9. MJBinNM

    MJBinNM Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 12, 2011
    New Mexico
    I have a first gen that still works. I cut the tank ring off and put a Fat Daddy spring loaded connector on it. Works pretty good with a Fogger as long as I don't build too low ohms.

    I don't use it as much as I used to but it still chugs. Must have pretty solid electronics.

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  10. Davey59

    Davey59 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2014
    Monroe WA
    Nice pics! looks great with the tank ring gone. I should break down and cut mine off too. I would be in little vapepig heaven with my larger tanks on it.
     
  11. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm still using my "Gen 1" but did change the 510 connector to a FatDaddy as well. I use it with the extension tube and a Fogger, ~2.0 ohm build, and it's still plugging along well. I take it with me when I go out walking the dog or shopping. It can start a conversation with the Fogger on top of the extension tube.
     
  12. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    It's been a while since I put the Fat Daddy on this one, but I just did the ring modification to accept a 21mm tank -

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    I used a Dremel with a straight burr, working slowly until the tank, a Erlkonigin clone, fit. Then a sanding drum, then 220, 400 and 600 grit paper to smooth everything out. You can see the Fat Daddy in this shot.

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    The completed project, Fat Daddy connector, widened ring and a clone Erlkonigin tank, 1.6 ohm - 30 gauge build - rayon wick. This setup is my "go to" when going out walking the dog or in the car. This VTR is one of the originals and well over a year old now and still going strong.
     
  13. DancingHeretik

    DancingHeretik Dancing in the Chaos Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    San Antonio, TX
    That's beautiful!

    If only they'ld make a version of the VTR that came that way, I would definitely buy one. I bet a lot more people would buy one.

    Unfortunately, many of us aren't really up to doing it ourselves.

    The power and durability of a VTR, made usable!
     
  14. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm hoping someone does a VTR form factor with a DNA40 chip that will take up to 28mm tanks. If not, if I can get motivated, there's always build it myself out of brass.
     
  15. DejayRezme

    DejayRezme Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2014
    Europe
    Heh 28mm that would really be a tank
     
  16. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    There are a out of them out there. I have a Big Fogger, 28mm with 10ml capacity, on my iPV2 right now.
     
  17. After 2 years of vaping and discovering what I want out of a device I bought a VTR. Short box, recessed tank, spring loaded 510, easy replaceable battery and tough as ..... Yeah I get the buzzing too but I think it kinda makes it unique lol. I really love everything about it and hope it lasts for awhile. I'm using a protank 2 on it with a rebuilt coild head with 2ohm micro with 30awg. Love it!
     
  18. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Try rayon in those PT2 heads. Way better vapor and flavor plus they last for a long time before needing a dry burn and re-wick. I put almost 80ml of Cigarillos through one with no problems.
     
  19. TexasVet

    TexasVet Super Member ECF Veteran

    I'm going to leap and take the advice given here about upgrading to a fat daddy 510 connector. My VTR v1 is a year old and the threads in the 510 are getting sloppy. The PT2s still make contact but the Iclears 30S and X1s no longer stay screwed down firmly.

    I guess not all tank threads are equal. Seems the PT2 ground material off until the iClears wouldn't engage. If the VTR 510 is chrome plated brass then I'm not surprised. Really hope the fat daddy solves my prob.

    btw I finall found a 6mm torx tool. That was not easy. My MVP v2 will back up during the maintenence on the VTR.

    UPDATE - Question. Having a bit of difficulty finding a source for the VTR 510 connector replacements in the US.
    NOT paying freight from UK, not gonna happen.
    FatDaddyVapes.com is a supplier and I'm not a re-seller. Who has the answer?
     
  20. NCHornet

    NCHornet Full Member

    Dec 27, 2014
    Middle of no where
    I am new to vaping and the VTR is my first device. I didn't care for the IClear 30S as much as the protank 2. The PT 2 just draws much easier than the 30S. However I am having issues with the PT2, After a long drag I am getting juice on my hand holding the device. It appears to be coming from just below the spinning wheel that the PT2 screws into. When I take the tank off there is juice on the top of that spinning wheel. I haven't had issues with the OHM problem, but I read about it prior to ordering, when I received it I used 91% Alcohol and some very fine q tips that come to a sharp point and I cleaned inside the notches in the 510 hole. These q tips worked great. I had them for cleaning my guns. This issue with the juice leaking is really starting to bother me. Is it something to do with the PT2 or the VTR? If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it. I have tried some of the ideas on youtube that had me reverse the seal above the wick, as well as adding an extra o ring on the coil, but nothing has stopped this issue. Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks
    Kevin
     
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