New KR808 clearos? + Phoenix questions.

[CaliVaper]

I have 3 more questions... I didn't wanna make a bunch of threads so I'll just combine them here.

1.) @gotvapes, There has been a bunch of new clearos introduced, but they are mostly all ego and 510. When can we expect some new KR808 clearos?

2.) Would anyone be so kind to post the dimensions of the phoenix clearos Length X Diameter (in milimeters)?

3.) Sometimes different companies sell the same product just "branded" or named differently... does anyone know of any other companies that sell the "phoenix" clearo...BUT in a "regular" size and/or natively for KR808? the phoenix is listed as an "XL" with 1.5ml capacity. So I'm considering the "regular" size (if it even exists) to be around 1ml, maybe a little less. @govapes, anychance you will release something like this?

 

[timh]

I dont know about 1 and 2 but the Phoenix only comes in 1.5 and 3 Mls for now .I think Bad has said that a 5 ml will be coming soon.But nothing shorter .

 

[cthompson116]

I have the same ?'s so bumping

 

[badkolo]

1.) @gotvapes, There has been a bunch of new clearos introduced, but they are mostly all ego and 510. When can we expect some new KR808 clearos? No one i know of has 808 phoenix's as that is a special order which we have ordered but its possible someone got them if they where buying in bulk and specificaly asked for them, we will carry both phoenix lines in 808. coming very soon

2.) Would anyone be so kind to post the dimensions of the phoenix clearos Length X Diameter (in milimeters)? i dont have exact measurements at the moment but im sure someone can post that for you

3.) Sometimes different companies sell the same product just "branded" or named differently... does anyone know of any other companies that sell the "phoenix" clearo...BUT in a "regular" size and/or natively for KR808? the phoenix is listed as an "XL" with 1.5ml capacity. So I'm considering the "regular" size (if it even exists) to be around 1ml, maybe a little less. @govapes, anychance you will release something like this?

while we brand our products when we can , it is usually done for products we work with, we helped with the ce2 evolution, i have been involved with that deeply, the same applies to the sapphires when they where introduced, I worked closely with the phoenix bottom and top coil, The new 3ml phoenix with no casing is another gotvapes direct idea. Others usually enjoy the fruits of my labor or the labor of our posters or anyone that helped us on a project and we take this seriously, we where deeply involved with the vivi in areas we where allowed to work on etc.. I repeat this alot so people understand that when gotvapes(dan & I) release products there is a high chance we helped make it better, of coarse this also backfires at times and we take that blame as well.
This leads me to your regular size question, I didnt want to get into smaller size versions as that wasnt abig request and we didnt see this carried by anyone else, its a much less popular product when compared to the xl versions but if people want a smaller regular size phoenix line and are very vocal about then it can be made in a couple of days.

 

[cthompson116]

Thanks man. Yeah for on the go I prefer regular sized carto's. I use 808 stick batteries on the go and the XL flux's (I got from another vendor) makes them quite long. I ordered some Phonix's and hoping with the 510 to 808 adapter its not going to be over the top long. I also ordered your reg sized flux's (Supreme).

BTW, the other vendors CE2's I'm having issues with burnt taste, hoping your flux's will be burn free.

Thanks,

Chris

 

[CaliVaper]

^^^^

The first clearos I tried were the vortex 2.0 from gotvapes. They are unfortunately not carrying those anymore. I Just ordered a box of regular sized fluxo supremes (2.8-3.0 ohm) and while so far I've only tried one of the 5, it is giving me a very unpleasant "burnt" taste. I'm about to fill up a new one to see if there is any difference. Also its a pain in the ... to refill (straight from bottle) would suggest still using a syringe even though the Supremes still have the wider openings.

I suppose when the 808 phoenix comes out I'll try that, I'm concerned about the overall length too, but I guess not having to use an adapter and drip tip will help some.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I was worried about the size when I started using xl fluxos (I'm an 808 man), but I quickly got used to it, and now regular sized cartos look like a toy to me

 

[cthompson116]

Oh no. Burnt taste on the supremes from gotvapes. This will be my third attempt to find a tasty ce2. Hoping for the best.

 

[lunchblaze]

would buy 808 phoenix xls
would also buy 808 smaller sized phoenix for out and about

 

[cthompson116]

Yep. I'm being vocal too!

 

[cthompson116]

Bumping to be vocal. Phoenix for an 808 (Reg size). I will not bump more then once, its annoying.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

how about a frump?

 

[dannoman]

I find the opposite on the supremes as far as filling experience. Next to the Stardusts and Visions these have a similar fill ease. You can still use a fill straight from the juice bottle, Tilt it 45 degrees and drip-flow down the side. The Supreme has the large nipple over the airstem so you won't get any down the airtube.

^^^^

The first clearos I tried were the vortex 2.0 from gotvapes. They are unfortunately not carrying those anymore. I Just ordered a box of regular sized fluxo supremes (2.8-3.0 ohm) and while so far I've only tried one of the 5, it is giving me a very unpleasant "burnt" taste. I'm about to fill up a new one to see if there is any difference. Also its a pain in the ... to refill (straight from bottle) would suggest still using a syringe even though the Supremes still have the wider openings.

I suppose when the 808 phoenix comes out I'll try that, I'm concerned about the overall length too, but I guess not having to use an adapter and drip tip will help some.

 

[dannoman]

I see the tickets and when I investigate further I find that some are vaping a 2.4 on a 4.2 battery or a fully charged 3.7v which will fully charge to 4.2 when freshly charged. We do have a 2.8-3.0 ohm that is probably better to use and you will have less toastiness, too-fast-drying of the wicks on higher voltage PV's. Also you find some people have the habit of vaping with their PV pointing down and of course this is not going to help keep the wicks at their optimum 'wetness'. Please take a look at this little run-down on the Supreme I did about a week ago:

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Oh no. Burnt taste on the supremes from gotvapes. This will be my third attempt to find a tasty ce2. Hoping for the best.

 

[dannoman]

coming very soon, the box on the right is a mockup for our 808XL's (you will notice it shows 510, which was fixed):

would buy 808 phoenix xls
would also buy 808 smaller sized phoenix for out and about

 

[Cyrus Vap]

some are vaping a 2.4 on a 4.2 battery or a fully charged 3.7v which will fully charge to 4.2 when freshly charged

this is true. when I put a 2.4 ohm fluxo on a gen 1 808 there is a tendency to make toasties especially if you don't tip; this particular gen 1 holds its voltage incredibly well and will put out close to 4.2 volts for a while actually

when I put the same 2.4 ohm fluxo on a riva 510 or 901, or 808 eGo, even though in principle we're still dealing with 4.2 volts off the charger, fact is, they don't hold their voltage so well and drop more underload than the above batts, so there is no toasties

I would guess that 3.9-4.0 under load is the furthest you want to push these, but I don't have a VV unit so I can't say.

 

[CaliVaper]

I find the opposite on the supremes as far as filling experience. Next to the Stardusts and Visions these have a similar fill ease. You can still use a fill straight from the juice bottle, Tilt it 45 degrees and drip-flow down the side. The Supreme has the large nipple over the airstem so you won't get any down the airtube.

See... thats exactly how I tried it and it worked the FIRST time when everything is completely clean and dry. Then I vaped it down till it was empty and tried refilling and I did it the exact same way and the juice would just pool up and not go through the holes. I tried using a paperclip on one of the holes to let the air through (like the bleeder hole on a gas can), and it still didn't work. Then I tried putting the nipple of the juice bottle right up the hole, hoping the pressure would force it in, and it didn't work.

I tried with another one in the same fashion just to make sure it wasn't defective or of sub-par quality and it was the same thing.

 

[CaliVaper]

this is true. when I put a 2.4 ohm fluxo on a gen 1 808 there is a tendency to make toasties especially if you don't tip; this particular gen 1 holds its voltage incredibly well and will put out close to 4.2 volts for a while actually

when I put the same 2.4 ohm fluxo on a riva 510 or 901, or 808 eGo, even though in principle we're still dealing with 4.2 volts off the charger, fact is, they don't hold their voltage so well and drop more underload than the above batts, so there is no toasties

I would guess that 3.9-4.0 under load is the furthest you want to push these, but I don't have a VV unit so I can't say.

Thats exactly what I was worried about, which is why I went with the 2.8-3 ohm one. Before they stopped selling them, I got the Vortex 2.0 in 2.4 ohm and never got a burnt taste on either my 4.2V V2cigs batteries or my 3.6V smokeless image volt battery

coming very soon, the box on the right is a mockup for our 808XL's (you will notice it shows 510, which was fixed):

Would you happen to know when "very soon" is? a rough estimate 2,4,6,8 weeks?

 

[badkolo]

808 phoenix's top and bottom are on their way

 

[Briar]

Oh no. Burnt taste on the supremes from gotvapes. This will be my third attempt to find a tasty ce2. Hoping for the best.

There are a couple of easy mods you can do to get rid of the burnt taste if you end up getting it. *Very* easy mods. Even I can do them. I don't use straight PG or high percentage PG juices, so I've always had to fiddle with my Fluxos a little - but after that they worked wonderfully, and it's hard to beat them for taste, durability, and ease of cleaning.

About the sizing: the Phoenix is exactly the same length as the Fluxo XL: 49 mm not counting the drip tip or the 510 connector.