New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers
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No, the first build (a month ago) was more like 6 second hits. This build had more of a lag in heating up and it took a long draw before you got a good hit.
OK, so now its time for the Smoktech TFV8 Big Baby.
I was only able to test the Q4 quad as I cross threaded the T6 sextuplet coil when I tried to install it, could not salvage the T6 coil.
The Q4 Quadruple 0.15ohm is rated for 50~180W, recommended 90~150W.
First, they call it a quad coil, and it is, but it is not twisted or anything, it is 2 sets of parallel wires welded onto lead wires.
So I installed the probe along side one of the coils.
I then ran the beast starting at 50W.
Here is a capture at 70W:
And here is a closeup at 90W (this is where I quit):
And here are the test results:
They recommend 90-150W, damn, thats going to be HOT, especially for the high VG that the cloud chaser group (target market for this atty) usually runs. It does put out some clouds though, no doubt about it.
Subjectively it tasted hotter than the test results reflect, not a lot of cooling of the vape before it exits the atty. And next time I test something like this I about going to cut my nic by 75%.
I was only able to test the Q4 quad as I cross threaded the T6 sextuplet coil when I tried to install it, could not salvage the T6 coil.
The Q4 Quadruple 0.15ohm is rated for 50~180W, recommended 90~150W.
First, they call it a quad coil, and it is, but it is not twisted or anything, it is 2 sets of parallel wires welded onto lead wires.
So I installed the probe along side one of the coils.
I then ran the beast starting at 50W.
Here is a capture at 70W:
And here is a closeup at 90W (this is where I quit):
And here are the test results:
They recommend 90-150W, damn, thats going to be HOT, especially for the high VG that the cloud chaser group (target market for this atty) usually runs. It does put out some clouds though, no doubt about it.
Subjectively it tasted hotter than the test results reflect, not a lot of cooling of the vape before it exits the atty. And next time I test something like this I about going to cut my nic by 75%.
But half way through I started doing the Bill Clinton thing, I didnt inhale!What, did you use your regular 36mg with this?
So you were tootle-puffing a TFV8 at 90W.
Yeah, you're right, I was tootling......... Maybe I need to go join that other thread!So you were tootle-puffing a TFV8 at 90W.
Aren't these tanks designed for DTL? Should have quite an impact on temperature especially at 90 watts
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thanks again,mike. your testing corresponds with my own senses. i think i know when i'm getting hotter but this is opposite the effect predicted by heat flux calc so i had to verify. for a basic atty like this there are so many ways to set it up, i may have to try new things. But i will always have a couple rigs with setup #1 for adv. Lowest possible vape temp with adequate vapor production is my goal. it may be difficult to get to 400-420 range on old school equipment. please don't throw out that obsolete rsst, i'm still working on it.
Don't worry, Mike. I'm sure the room will stop spinning by tomorrow.
Thanks for that test! It's fairly close to what I would have guesstimated. With the air more open and with greater airflow, I'm sure those temps drop even a little bit more.
Thanks for that test! It's fairly close to what I would have guesstimated. With the air more open and with greater airflow, I'm sure those temps drop even a little bit more.
MikeP, do we need to send you some 3 m.g. e-juice? LOL. I hope your head has stopped pounding by now.
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Another scientist takes one for the cause
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I'm confident he's perfectly capable of mixing it himself. Assuming of course that he's got something suitable to measuring out such minute quantities of nic.
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What, did you use your regular 36mg with this?
Come to the dark side with me.
Snoop Dog it next time with 50mg in my honor.
Just once. [emoji38]
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OK, so now its time for the Smoktech TFV8 Big Baby.
I was only able to test the Q4 quad as I cross threaded the T6 sextuplet coil when I tried to install it, could not salvage the T6 coil.
The Q4 Quadruple 0.15ohm is rated for 50~180W, recommended 90~150W.
First, they call it a quad coil, and it is, but it is not twisted or anything, it is 2 sets of parallel wires welded onto lead wires.
So I installed the probe along side one of the coils.
I then ran the beast starting at 50W.
Here is a capture at 70W:
And here is a closeup at 90W (this is where I quit):
And here are the test results:
They recommend 90-150W, damn, thats going to be HOT, especially for the high VG that the cloud chaser group (target market for this atty) usually runs. It does put out some clouds though, no doubt about it.
Subjectively it tasted hotter than the test results reflect, not a lot of cooling of the vape before it exits the atty. And next time I test something like this I about going to cut my nic by 75%.
I am not going to Blog this one just yet. As pointed out by @unIGIon and @Mowgli I didnt really give it a "real life" test since I did MTL instead of DTL. I fully agree that the additional airflow of DTL should drop these temps lower, and also agree that DTL would be the typical usage.
So I have ordered a 5pack of the X4, T6, and T8 coils. I will mix some 2% juice and run the tests again, this time using DTL. Actually, since I have the X4 readings on MTL already, it will be interesting to see how much DTL drops them.
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