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New vapers, go rebuildable...
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I would recommend new vapers to use and RDA or RTA but most people don't want to make this into a hobby. They are perfectly content just learning how to fill a tank or replace a coil head every now and then. I got my wife and my mom (and many others) to successfully quit cigarettes and start vaping. While I like rebuilding and making my own juice, I couldn't imagine the hassle associated with teaching them everything they would need to know.
Most people like easy even if it is more expensive.
Most people like easy even if it is more expensive.
Learning to make your own juice will be the biggest money saver by far. Especially if you are using rebuildables or sub ohm tanks
I love the old GG mods. I don't miss the old carto tanks or vivi novas. With old clearos I think I drank more juice than i vaporized. I started using drippers to test juice when I started DIY and discovered that it was so much better. I love the convenience of the tanks, and the new sub ohm tanks provide a really good vape. But if the government comes down on vaping I will be glad I have my mechanical mods and RDAs. DIY juice is a lot of fun, I want to try out making some new flavors next chance I get. I miss the hobby side of vaping, been working so much lately I haven't had time.
Okay so i can see how charging something with an internal battery that can't be replaced will eventually damage or lose charge.. but what about an 18650 battery charging over night. I'm sure it would have the same effects, but my question is how long will the battery hold up?
In rewatching the reviews for my money on a lower priced box mod only goes to 30w but the MVP3 looks like the one I'd get. No PWM no dumping power to achieve lower voltage quite a few features, probably not all that I would like but I like to see everything happening on the screen. For $65 or less this thing is really great. I think for a newer vaper it would be a great one. I never go higher then 30w anyway but that is just my view solid piece with great signal numbers and fantastic battery life kinda cool colors also. Check it out Goyo if you haven't already got one. I am even considering it. For that kinda money you can't go wrong.
It's not necessarily about the battery. It's just as likely about faulty/crappy electronics/charging circuits. Or shoddy wiring. If someone like Xtar or Nitecore made chargers that habitually caught fire, they'd go out of business pretty quickly.
Ideally any decent charger should not have problems charging over night. Proper li-ion chargers use algorithms that (is supposed to) ensure a charging cycle is stopped at the right voltage level. Problem with charging over night is that we're not present and awake IF some anomaly should happen. The chances of anything happening may be slim, but the consequences if it does is simply not worth the risk. I'll bite my own behind and say it's not necessarily about the charger. It's just as likely about a faulty/crappy/worn battery.
If I start a charge cycle and can't be present to complete it - I simply pull the batteries and finish when I can. No big deal. I don't go overly OCD about it, tho. It's not like I pull batteries to go to the toilet or make a cup of coffee.
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Rebuilding simply isn't for some people. A girl that works for me went out and got a RDA, and a nifty "battery holder". She's used it about two weeks rebuilt twice (once with my help) and simply doesn't want to mess with it. She now has an Ileaf and a nautilis mini and is happy as can be with it. (she came from an MVP and full size nautilis which was lost/stolen one night). To simply issue a blanket statement that re-building is for everyone, especially all new people, is just wrong.
It doesn't matter how easy (or hard) some people think it is, it for various reasons might not be for everyone. Hell on any given day I shake a little and have problems getting the wire thru the hole. There's tons of reasons that it may NOT be for a newbie, or even a seasoned vapor.
It doesn't matter how easy (or hard) some people think it is, it for various reasons might not be for everyone. Hell on any given day I shake a little and have problems getting the wire thru the hole. There's tons of reasons that it may NOT be for a newbie, or even a seasoned vapor.
You described my wife to a T!
She's got anything she wants at her fingertips RDAs, RTAs, Mechanicals, Regulated boxes...
For over 2 years she's gone for the Provari with a carto tank, she likes to just pick it up and go. Doesn't even want to bother with the Subtanks or the Nautilus tanks.
Being not a new vaper (2 years) and not even really knowing the parts of the stuff I use- rebuilding would not have been an option for me. I had a friend who set me up and taught me how to use it and I never moved on from there. Also being more newbie, I can attest to the amount of information needed to learn these new things and I am not sure I would be vaping now if I had to learn all of that 2 years ago. I am clearly still not at the point where I am ready for all of that, but hopefully I can figure some things out. Its all so confusing.
I'm happy with my provari,coil heads and premade juice..I guess I'm lazy vaper..so be it. I'm not going to setup a lab in my house and make my own juice.I heard the same thing when cigs went up, I heard they( the gov)are going to force me go buy seed and grow my own tobacco well you can't do that they saw through that you have to have a permit if you try the ATF will at your door ripping them up and fine you.the same goes for the nic the gov is smart the know their will be diyer's out there make it impossible to get nic So how much can you stockpile? 5yrs, 10 yrs soon or later you will run out..then what? ....end of rant
Yep there are some really good mods out there now. The Provari is falling behind a little but you can't beat them for longevity. When you press that button they just seem to always work. I remember when I got my first one waited 5 weeks for it to arrive, my wife thought I was crazy spending that kind of money now we have 5 including hers. She has no interest in rebuilding she likes her Provari and Nautilus especially since they came out with the BVC's all she uses. Always works I keep track of her heads and change when needed.
I've been vaping over a year. I've got RBAs and RTAs. A full toolbox of rebuilding equipment.
And yet I find that I use my Nautilus pretty much exclusively these days, especially since the BVC coils were introduced. The flavor is good enough, not quite as good as an RTA but really close, and the convenience far exceeds any RBA or RTA. I got tired of having to tear down my rebuildables once to twice a week to clean them and rewick them, trying to siphon off unused juice when the taste went off so I could rebuild and rewick, spending literally countless hours experimenting with different builds before finding one that worked to my satisfaction for each new RTA. With my Nautilus I deal with none of that. If the flavor goes off or a coil stops working as it should it's less than 2 minutes to replace it with no lost juice. The wicks are lasting more than twice as long as cotton in my RTAs did, and refilling only takes a few seconds.
It quite simply became a hassle vs benefit debate. Was the hassle of the rebuilding worth the tiny improvement in flavor when everything worked correctly? For me it's not. With the BVCs the flavor is very nearly the same and it's about as close to hassle free vaping as you can get. I would never recommend rebuilding unless the person wants to make a hobby out of vaping.
And yet I find that I use my Nautilus pretty much exclusively these days, especially since the BVC coils were introduced. The flavor is good enough, not quite as good as an RTA but really close, and the convenience far exceeds any RBA or RTA. I got tired of having to tear down my rebuildables once to twice a week to clean them and rewick them, trying to siphon off unused juice when the taste went off so I could rebuild and rewick, spending literally countless hours experimenting with different builds before finding one that worked to my satisfaction for each new RTA. With my Nautilus I deal with none of that. If the flavor goes off or a coil stops working as it should it's less than 2 minutes to replace it with no lost juice. The wicks are lasting more than twice as long as cotton in my RTAs did, and refilling only takes a few seconds.
It quite simply became a hassle vs benefit debate. Was the hassle of the rebuilding worth the tiny improvement in flavor when everything worked correctly? For me it's not. With the BVCs the flavor is very nearly the same and it's about as close to hassle free vaping as you can get. I would never recommend rebuilding unless the person wants to make a hobby out of vaping.
I actually disagree with that. Provape really didn't even need to come out with the P-3 to remain a viable option.
Guess they could always put their chip set in a box ... to keep up with the Joneses.
I actually find it funny that after playing with it for a day, I set up my brand new iStick 50 exactly the same as my Provari 2.0
The only difference is that after charging those batteries 300 +/- times, the iStick goes in the trash, and the provari doesn't.
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I cannot, and thanks for calling me an idiot
I absolutely despise building coils. I bought something that requires me to build them but I made sure I bought a device that only requires me to build a coil a couple of times a year. To build those despised coils, I have to use a coiling gizmo. Yes, I can build a coil...when I absolutely have to. I do not like doing it. I am not one that can tolerate small work. That's the only time I get shaky and desperately want a cigarette, even after not smoking even one in over two years. No actually, chances are these are people that have become desperate to get away from smoking. They have stumbled upon this site while searching for the term "E-Cigarette". Some of the lesser known sites are where you will more than likely find the people that you are speaking of.
That is all we are saying, new members need to do their due diligence also. You are not the first person to come onto ECF and think that they need to tell all the new members to build their own and DIY liquids. Please remember, there are MANY new members that have no idea what even the threading on their device is. They don't even know what all the acronyms are.
Even in this thread there were questions that many vets consider new member questions. I never once saw anyone that was recommending the "new member build your own" answer those questions. None even acknowledged the questions asked. They were more interested in furthering their pissing contest.
Thank you to the vets that did help those new members. I applaud you heartily.
For a lengthier write-up on the topic at hand - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pierzig.
Get a second Kayfun and keep'em coiled.
Making coils is so much more tolerable if you can vape while doing it (using the other tank).
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