New Variable Voltage device from smoktech?

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

However the timing gives it an "in your face ecf" appearance.

If everything was Perfect the first time, we would never have a V2, etc.

They should always leave room for improvement!

We should always wait for V2!

P.S. I think all this is pre-production anyway, isn't it? I think they are testing and taking pre-orders. They are not actually on the market anywhere, yet?

 

[GhosT81]

The picture from vapingzone makes it look like it has vents

 

[yzer]

The picture from vapingzone makes it look like it has vents

I've notice that on several pix of the VMax but it has no slotted vents. There are groves along the tube for better grip.

Maybe Smoktech has an idea for meeting proposed EMSS specs? It may be pretty easy for them to cut slotted vents along those groves because the tube is painted brass. The end cap has some small perforated vents and may be made of plastic to better serve as a blow-out plug.

 

[GhosT81]

I was talking about on the end cap. It looks as if there are 5 holes

 

[Caridwen]

Moved to VV Discussion

 

[Off Topic]

Will it survive as many drops as I have subjected my Provari V2 to?

I have my doubts.

 

[CaptJR]

If Smoktech makes this PV it won't be Provari quality but it will be very good quality at a value price. I've had no problems with my Smoktech E-Power 14650 in four months of use. I wonder what battery they will use?

I bought two E-Power. One button worked to two days, the other worked for about a week. Would not waste the money returning for a replacement. These were the newer version. Just junk, you could tell the first time you pushed the button.

 

[Frick]

I seriously doubt it's the same innards since it's a step down regulator instead of the booster circuit. It takes 2 batteries so 3.2 - 4.2 volts per battery delivers 6.4 volt to 8.4 volts , unregulated. Since it's 3-6 volts on the spec it has to be regulated, stepped down, to provide a constant voltage.

Provari uses a booster circuit to boost the voltage up to whatever you set it for. Totally different.

And I doubt it does the , over 4.2 volts on just the single battery alone. So it really needs the stacked batteries. And as others have mentioned that where most of the explosions have occurred. Not having slots just makes it a ticking time bomb.

Given those two things I thing smok dropped the ball on this one.

Agreed, it's got to be a buck circuit as opposed to boost.

I sure hope they aren't going to be selling an un-vented stacked battery mod to the masses that may not realize the inherent danger. And a 5 amp limit? Danger, Will Robinson.

 

[MickeyRat]

Really I understand the need for vents. I don't understand why they need to be slots. The ability for a fluid to leave through a vent is determined by the size of the vent. That's it. The shape of the vent doesn't enter into it. So, I don't get that standard.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Really I understand the need for vents. I don't understand why they need to be slots. The ability for a fluid to leave through a vent is determined by the size of the vent. That's it. The shape of the vent doesn't enter into it. So, I don't get that standard.

Probably because just a hole in the bottom could send the device off like a rocket as these batteries can vent pretty violently..there is a lot of energy stored in a 18650 battery..also if it's just a little too small a vent there is a chance it could fragment the device.

I think they are being a bit on the safe side because of a couple vents that happened. I mean for it to be safe with a hole it could mean a hole almost the size of the battery too. Another thing could be they are worried about the battery "swelling" during heating up while venting.

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

Really I understand the need for vents. I don't understand why they need to be slots. The ability for a fluid to leave through a vent is determined by the size of the vent. That's it. The shape of the vent doesn't enter into it. So, I don't get that standard.

The slotting is required in ROUND tube mods using ROUND batteries that can swell and block the passage of gasses. Square tube mods using round batteries would not be required to have slots, just adequate vent holes that would prevent the top from blowing off (into a face) or a rocket reaction from small vent holes on the bottom.

 

[yzer]

I bought two E-Power. One button worked to two days, the other worked for about a week. Would not waste the money returning for a replacement. These were the newer version. Just junk, you could tell the first time you pushed the button.

I have one E-Power 14650 I've been using trouble free for almost six months and two for backups. I use one of the spares once in a while.

No issues with the original blue LED switches which I keep for spares. No problems after upgrading in February with the new blue LED switches w/5-click safety.

Nice little APVs.

 

[CaptJR]

I have one E-Power 14650 I've been using trouble free for almost six months and two for backups. I use one of the spares once in a while.

No issues with the original blue LED switches which I keep for spares. No problems after upgrading in February with the new blue LED switches w/5-click safety.

Nice little APVs.

Yes, as I said, I had the newer ones with blue LED and the 5 click shut off.

Do your buttons feel good, I mean, Hmmm, hard to explain. The ones I got felt like they were going to stop working any monent. The very first time I pushed it. Like week and unclear.

Do you remember where you got yours? Maybe I got a knock off.

 

[bsidb]

Ive got the old blue buttons (E-Power) that "pop" when i push them, never a problem, try andrew at crystal clear vaping,give him a call 1-618-215-0541 Id spend the money and get the Provari, the Smoktek stainless vv looks nice but the Provari2 mini is so close

 

[440BB]

I expect that Smoktech had already designed this PV and moved pretty far toward production when the recent venting incident occurred.

The EMSS Metal tube mods Safety Specification v2 states "The EMSS therefore refers to mods that accept two batteries, or that accept an 18500 or 18650, and could therefore have two smaller batteries inserted, and without electronic controls that prevent operation due to overvoltage. Some fully-electronic mods, that may accept two batteries, may therefore be exempt since they will not function."

I think that it's electronic protection circuitry makes this device exempt and combined with bottom venting should be relatively safe.

 

[yzer]

Yes, as I said, I had the newer ones with blue LED and the 5 click shut off.

Do your buttons feel good, I mean, Hmmm, hard to explain. The ones I got felt like they were going to stop working any monent. The very first time I pushed it. Like week and unclear.

Do you remember where you got yours? Maybe I got a knock off.

I purchased the E-Power 14650 replacement switches (blue LED w/5-click safety feature, good for 1.5 ohm LR) on March 5 of this year from Hoosier. I purchased all of the E-Power equipment from Hoosier.

These newer blue switches feel exactly like the earlier blue switches. I can feel the switch click and hear it, too. The sound is actually more like a pop than a click.

 

[Zer0Kewl]

I am seeing what price I can get from my sales contact at smoktech tto see if it is worth doing a coop on this.

If it isn't under $100 though, I won't.


Update : Looks like they are only selling this to retailers for now

 

[VAPNJ350]

2 18350's ...Im using it right now!! Its AWESOME !!!!

 

[VAPNJ350]

If Smoktech makes this PV it won't be Provari quality but it will be very good quality at a value price. I've had no problems with my Smoktech E-Power 14650 in four months of use. I wonder what battery they will use?[/QUOTE

Sorry about that ,,it uses 2 18350's, Im vaping on it right now and out of ALL the devices Ive used this thing is a powerhouse,any carto,any voltage NO E1 or ANY code. It just works.

 

[Jimi D.]

2 18350's ...Im using it right now!! Its AWESOME !!!!

Are you vaping with the Smok mod?