New Variable Voltage device from smoktech?

[FsckCigs]

Lol, there's nothing China-based about ECF's very own Goodejuice. Well-known amongst afficianados of tobacco-extracted e-liquids as being amongst the best of the best, and definitely owned/operated/located in the U.S.

 

[Str8V8ping]

Ok, "you're slow" lol (I'm nothing if not obedient) I'll PM you about that original reference.

As for "John Makes A Funny", it's getting even better.

The original "funny" -

Some guy comes in and says : (no, he didn't walk into a bar) lol

"I really don't even see how there's a market for it, [the VMax] you can get a Provari for ~$30 more".

And he happens to be from: ===> Amboy, WA <===

So I answer:

"Because it might just be every bit as good as a ProVari in quality and performance, and might arguably outperform it in certain cases. Those limited cases are IMO powering low resistance attys when more amps are drawn than the ProVari can handle, and powering certain high resistance attys with more watts than the ProVari can.

So where are you from?? Fanboy, Washington? Oh, no, it's "Amboy", Washington. OK ... well, understandable mistake".

So I'm feeling pretty pleased with myself, right?

So today, he say:

"Whoah, no need to get butthurt.

Clearly it isn't as good as the Provari if it can't even perform basic tasks like actually regulating voltage properly.

Feel free to rage about me being a fanboy now".

So tune in, and see why:

"You Don't Mess with the Johan" LMAO!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-review-v-max-smoktech-all-about-vapor-2.html

I agree the vmax cant touch a provari with a 10 foot pole and thats not because i like or have a provari. I will say that it can compete with the lavatube. Thats just how i feel seeing the vmax in action. If not able to afford a provari the buzz or lavatube would be a better choice. Amp rating means absolutely nothing since the provari can handle more than the carto on it can handle as is so any extra is completely useless vape wise . The provari has a stable "real" voltage,more solid construction,better display and menu,better button,a real low voltage cutoff, display isnt constantly on and takes a single battery plus a actual warranty and quality control. Oh and a chip design and mount so the tube and not chip will take the shock impact of dropping.Also different battery options and USA made componants which in the electronics is a major quality difference and accurate datasheets.

 

[John D in CT]

I agree the vmax cant touch a provari with a 10 foot pole and thats not because i like or have a provari. I will say that it can compete with the lavatube. Thats just how i feel seeing the vmax in action. If not able to afford a provari the buzz or lavatube would be a better choice. Amp rating means absolutely nothing since the provari can handle more than the carto on it can handle as is so any extra is completely useless vape wise . The provari has a stable "real" voltage,more solid construction,better display and menu,better button,a real low voltage cutoff, display isnt constantly on and takes a single battery plus a actual warranty and quality control. Oh and a chip design and mount so the tube and not chip will take the shock impact of dropping.Also different battery options and USA made componants which in the electronics is a major quality difference and accurate datasheets.

Can't touch the ProVari with a ten-foot pole? Come on. That is beyond "opinion". That is not at all what I would call a reasonable statement, or a defensible one.

And if amps don't matter, ProVari should disable some of their error codes, speaking of APV's that "need tuning".

If every one of your points is correct, you still wouldn't come close to justifying the "ten foot pole" thing, and it doesn't take a "fanboy" to take issue with such a careless comment.

 

[Str8V8ping]

Amp does matter up to a certain point. The point of what a carto can handle. You dont own a provari so im guessing error codes is something you heard from somewhere which is not exactly correct . Those error codes keep you from burning a carto or causing a short circuit or telling you that your attys broken . The error codes is a good thing. I can justify the ten foot pole because thats how i personally feel looking at them. It may look like a provari but it doesnt act like or feel like or run like from what iv seen and im just basing that off what iv seen and read about. Thats my opinion to agree with the guy. Your entitled to your opionion of course

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Regarding "Error Codes" on the Provari, they are there so you don't fry your Cart/Atty. Instead of knocking your voltage down, the Provari will simply throw a error code. Knocking the voltage down to a lower level makes you think you're vaping at said voltage when in reality you're vaping at a lower voltage. Nobody would ever know this without a meter of course.

In my opinion, if someone tries vaping a 1.5 ohm cartomizer at 6 volts, it should throw a error code instead of just frying it.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

It would appear John D in CT is now in love with me.

 

[AaronY]

Most atties I have can do around 20-30 watts for months. You can't get the flavor fusion and clouds of vapor on the inferior mod you mentioned.

Regarding "Error Codes" on the Provari, they are there so you don't fry your Cart/Atty. Instead of knocking your voltage down, the Provari will simply throw a error code. Knocking the voltage down to a lower level makes you think you're vaping at said voltage when in reality you're vaping at a lower voltage. Nobody would ever know this without a meter of course.

In my opinion, if someone tries vaping a 1.5 ohm cartomizer at 6 volts, it should throw a error code instead of just frying it.

 

[Str8V8ping]

Most atties I have can do around 20-30 watts for months. You can't get the flavor fusion and clouds of vapor on the inferior mod you mentioned.

30watts, what type of atty do you have ?That would be like a 1 ohm atty at 6v. I would think that would almost turn the atty tube red lol

 

[AaronY]

30watts, what type of atty do you have ?That would be like a 1 ohm atty at 6v. I would think that would almost turn the atty tube red lol

I said 20-30 I use cisco 3 ohms. They go down in ohms after you use them for over a month. That is when I get the higher watts.

 

[Str8V8ping]

I said 20-30 I use cisco 3 ohms. They go down in ohms after you use them for over a month. That is when I get the higher watts.

I use cisco 306 1.5 and 2.5's and they are great attys but i cant push the 1.5's past 4.2v/12watts or the 2.5's past 5/11 watts without getting a scolding lip burning atty/driptip and burnt juice taste. Thats also with a drip shield for a heatsink.You like a HOT vape huh and i thought i vaped at a high wattage. The cisco's do have great life though . I get a good month out of them too. A bunch of my mods can handle 30watts but i cant get close with any carto/atty/rebuildable iv used.

 

[AaronY]

I use cisco 306 1.5 and 2.5's and they are great attys but i cant push the 1.5's past 4.2v/12watts or the 2.5's past 5/11 watts without getting a scolding lip burning atty/driptip and burnt juice taste. Thats also with a drip shield for a heatsink.You like a HOT vape huh and i thought i vaped at a high wattage. The cisco's do have great life though . I get a good month out of them too. A bunch of my mods can handle 30watts but i cant get close with any carto/atty/rebuildable iv used.

I use a pyrex dt extra long it is not that hot or burns me. I think it depends on the dt. Because some aluminum or short ones I get that experience. Some juice can't handel it but the right juice it tastes amazing. Have you tried the cisco 3.0 or 3.5 ohm? The 3.5 ohm one just came out but it has amazing flavor IMHO.

 

[Str8V8ping]

I use a pyrex dt extra long it is not that hot or burns me. I think it depends on the dt. Because some aluminum or short ones I get that experience. Some juice can't handel it but the right juice it tastes amazing. Have you tried the cisco 3.0 or 3.5 ohm? The 3.5 ohm one just came out but it has amazing flavor IMHO.

Ill try the 3.5 next time i order. I use long drip tips as well. Never liked the metal DT's

 

[skipdashu]

I definitely wouldnt recommend this mod to a beginner since the configuration is widely inaccurate. It wouldnt be fun to blow up a carto everytime you change the batteries and it goes back to 5v. 4v seems around the highest youd want to go even with SR's since 4v is pretty much acting like 6v.ANy higher voltages are really useless for most people. Beginners would just be all screwed up going to any other mod. I personally would rather a lavatube that drops voltage over a useless voltage readout altogether but thats just me. I wouldnt mind picking one up if it were around 40 bucks though just to use the tube with my own electronics in it. At the price they want for it though youd be crazy to not just get a provari or buzz pro IMO<

Some of what you are implying here just isn't accurate. I'm guessing that you're extrapolating from Busardo's review using LR. I have a 2.5 ohm dual coil tank on mine right now and it's set to 4.4 volts. Moving this tank over to my VV box (6A) I dial in 4.7v to get the same vape, maybe 4.8. That's a 0.3~0.4v not 2.0v as u suggested. The difference is even less using 3.0 ohm Boge's or 3.0 dual coils.

Call me crazy then as I coughed up a picture of Ben F. for mine. The last time I had a black Provari in my shopping card I was at $208 with the extension.

PS: Guess I need to bust out a 1.5DC and try that on it. I just never thought to try 1.5 or 1.25 ohm on a VV device (why 'simulate' when u can 'actuate' ;-)

 

[caged]

Some of what you are implying here just isn't accurate. I'm guessing that you're extrapolating from Busardo's review using LR. I have a 2.5 ohm dual coil tank on mine right now and it's set to 4.4 volts. Moving this tank over to my VV box (6A) I dial in 4.7v to get the same vape, maybe 4.8. That's a 0.3~0.4v not 2.0v as u suggested. The difference is even less using 3.0 ohm Boge's or 3.0 dual coils.

You kind of prove his point -- the calibration is lacking.

 

[skipdashu]

You kind of prove his point -- the calibration is lacking.

I FULLY agree it reads low compared to vaping on a straight DC device and needs some tweaking there. What I don't agree with is 4v is like 6v.

Of course it's perspective... the OKR VV 6A box seems a bit weak these days... LOL

 

[caged]

I FULLY agree it reads low compared to vaping on a straight DC device and needs some tweaking there. What I don't agree with is 4v is like 6v.

Of course it's perspective... the OKR VV 6A box seems a bit weak these days... LOL

If calibration is not being properly done, different units will be more out of calibration than others. It's entirely possible your unit is closer to the mark than a different unit owned by someone else. Personally, I trust PBusardo's (sp?) results and find him to be spot on more often than not. The guy may be really funny but he's no joke.

 

[John D in CT]

It would appear John D in CT is now in love with me.

That's about as accurate as your other opinions LMAO!!

 

[skipdashu]

If calibration is not being properly done, different units will be more out of calibration than others. It's entirely possible your unit is closer to the mark than a different unit owned by someone else. Personally, I trust PBusardo's (sp?) results and find him to be spot on more often than not. The guy may be really funny but he's no joke.

I'm a fan also and I've had a couple emails with him on this.

I put a 1.5 ohm dual coil on it a few minutes ago as I think that's what he was using and YES it is further off using that. I've got the VMax set to 3.2v and on my OKR VV Box I was vaping this at 4.2v so now I'm a full volt off.

I'll have to re-watch the video as I don't recall him saying 4v was like 6v but maybe he did.

Skip

 

[VAPNJ350]

Hey Skip.....did you get that info John was suppose to forward you in the PM ? Just makin' sure. Let me know when you get the time.
.......J

 

[skipdashu]

Yes, Thank you very much. My bro' is looking into O-scopes so I sent it to him and ask him to get back to me.