Next big breakthrough?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Irishred

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 14, 2012
92
61
USA
Might be silly but I find myself wondering when the next big breakthrough will come as far as batteries go. Comparing it to cell phones it seems like we're all still using the giant brick motorola's zack used on saved by the bell (was that his name? lol)... When do you think we'll see 1,000mah batts the size of 510 cig-a-likes? Is that rly the future or is the only thing that shrunk in cell phones the circuitry/processor? Idk so I'm asking (and too lazy to google this). Obviously they're working on it but I'm just curious how long you think it will be till this type of batt is possible.
:glare:

Wouldn't the FDA action in April put a hold on any development on batteries for ecigs? I mean other countries have already put a ban on ecigs.
 

hvac999

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 21, 2010
1,834
811
Charlotte, NC
Back in 2010 we had a 510 and a regular ego. Now things are moving along at a faster pace but I don't think you will see anything major until the FDA announces whatever they are going to do. If it positive toward e-cigs I think there will be an explosion in technology and more US companies entering the race. I look forward to affordable US prices.
 

UncleChuck

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 20, 2011
1,581
1,812
38
Portland
Wouldn't the FDA action in April put a hold on any development on batteries for ecigs? I mean other countries have already put a ban on ecigs.

It can't put a hold on what isn't happening, nobody is developing batteries for ecigs, every single battery used in any and all ecigs are just batteries from a different industry that have been re-purposed for ecig use. By re-purposed I mean shoved inside a fancy metal case and calling it a day. Don't look to ecig makers for battery technology, look elsewhere. People are pouring more money into battery research for other purposes than all the money that's been spent in the ecig industry since it's inception.

That's where the new technology will come from. Then you have to wait several years for this technology to become available for ecig companies, become cheap enough for our purposes, and become safe enough for our purposes. A battery the size of a penny with 2,000 mAh doesn't matter if it needs a liquid nitrogen cooling system or else it explodes.

I had an idea about a new power source for ecigs, not sure how it could be executed though.

I was thinking of having a cigalike battery with a capacitor and some sort of thermoelectric material on the tip of the cig. You take a lighter and "light" your ecig, but all you are doing is charging up the capacitor with heat from the lighter's flame. The capacitor lasts long enough for 10-15 puffs or whatever, like a real cig. Then if you want to keep vaping you could 'light" another cig by reheating the tip of the cig, which charges the capacitor again.

I know technology exists to take heat and turn it into electricity, and I know technology exists to have a capacitor that could power an ecig for 10-15 puffs, I just don't know if it's possible to get it all working together in a small enough package.

You could slightly modify this idea, and use a fake lighter that houses the main battery pack, and have a cigalike with a capacitor in in. Have some tiny contacts that allow the fake lighter's battery to recharge the cigalike's capacitor enough for 10-15 puffs.

None of this is really new technology, just a new approach to the whole ecig thing.

I agree that atomizer and juice feeding technology is really where I want things to get better. A coil, wick, and tank of juice is too old school.

I want micropumps supplying juice and ultrasonic atomizers! Now that would make me happy.

Why the heck isn't there an ultrasonic atomizer!!??
 

Plumes.91

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 30, 2012
5,078
6,388
United States
I expect to see VW eGo sized batteries *Swell*

Janty MiD, already exists. Available for 2nd round pre-order now at usa.janty.

The next big thing is the evic/mid type ecigs that have vapor profiles. new genesis wicks. new gen styles.
a new wave of clones is breaking out of the foreign markets and hitting US shores.
disposibles will be huge/popular with the general public very soon i'm willing to bet.
higher quality mods + head units in huge quantities manufactured and coming from china/japan/etc.
More big US companies utilizing chinese manufacturing.
Juice regulation. WAY less juice vendors, a new spring of certified e-liquid labs within the US.
offshore loophole drop shipping.

professional flavor labs creating tobacco juices closer and closer to the real thing.
WTA juices from Lorillard and Blu utilizing US tobacco farm's tobacco.
 
Last edited:

echofinder

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 8, 2012
551
590
Damascus, MD
www.reddit.com
I think the next major breakthrough will not be in the battery category, but with the juice delivery devices. Something akin to fuel injection in a car. With adjustments to the eliquid delivery for lighter or heavier vapor hit, warmer or cooler vapor, all on the fly. Some kind of new juice delivery to the vaporizer other than string wicks or polyfill.

Lawd I hope so... with the chrome SB and a huge chrome carto tank I feel like I have a muscle car PV... problem is, though the 4 barrel holley does work I have to adjust it all the time and it floods constantly, and the thing sucks 'fuel' like a drunk sucks likker. And though the big block 18650 puts out, I think the overall power system actually gives me maybe half of what it generates.
 

Baditude

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Apr 8, 2012
30,394
73,076
71
Ridgeway, Ohio
Lawd I hope so... with the chrome SB and a huge chrome carto tank I feel like I have a muscle car PV... problem is, though the 4 barrel holley does work I have to adjust it all the time and it floods constantly, and the thing sucks 'fuel' like a drunk sucks likker. And though the big block 18650 puts out, I think the overall power system actually gives me maybe half of what it generates.
You need the chrome extension and a Kick. :D
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread