Nhaler, extremely bad service

[MHR7331]

I find it quite unfortunate that the OP did not post her concerns in a forum in which the supplier could defend themself. If a true resolution was desired, would that not be the appropriate starting point? As many have said, there are two sides to every story and we are only hearing one side. It is also a shame that this topic has strayed from it's original course only to return to the BS of the voltage offered by the Xhaler. Some of you have posted that you were considering the purchasing the Xhaler or doing business with this supplier and that now you no longer will.... That based on one thread where you have only heard one side of the story? That blows me away. I suggest you dig a little deeper and weigh the positive customer experience that 99% of folks have had with Nhaler before making such a rash and uninformed decision. If not, you are doing yourself an injustice. Flame away....

Right... and a manufacturer making unsubstantiated claims about their product isn't indicative of their integrity and trustworthiness as a vendor, its just BS...

 

[Cherice]

Right... and a manufacturer making unsubstantiated claims about their product isn't indicative of their integrity and trustworthiness as a vendor, its just BS...

I've watched the video in the other 5v thread...can you tell me how exactly they were getting at 7.7 reading if they were using 2 3volt batteries? I'm all ears....

 

[MHR7331]

I've watched the video in the other 5v thread...can you tell me how exactly they were getting at 7.7 reading if they were using 2 3volt batteries? I'm all ears....

I don't recall which batteries were used in the test, but the entire point is there was no voltage dropped by the cap. Its purported function is to act as a resistor, and in the video, it clearly does not.

 

[angjen0816]

I don't recall which batteries were used in the test, but the entire point is there was no voltage dropped by the cap. Its purported function is to act as a resistor, and in the video, it clearly does not.

ill reply later, i keep trying but im too sleepy

 

[sadtranz]

I've watched the video in the other 5v thread...can you tell me how exactly they were getting at 7.7 reading if they were using 2 3volt batteries? I'm all ears....

Batteries often give out higher volts ie 3.7 to 4.2 probably useing 3.6 volt batteries but fact remains end cap failed to lower resistance or should i say increase

 

[Thulium]

I don't recall which batteries were used in the test, but the entire point is there was no voltage dropped by the cap. Its purported function is to act as a resistor, and in the video, it clearly does not.

2 x 3.7 batteries with the cap tight is "advertised" to give 7.4V
2 x 3.7 batteries with the cap loose is "Not Recommended"

There is nothing that states you will get less than 7.4V if using 2 x 3.7v batteries.

If you want to see the voltage drop to 5V, you need to use 2 x 3.0V batteries.

 

[Cherice]

2 x 3.7 batteries with the cap tight is "advertised" to give 7.4V
2 x 3.7 batteries with the cap loose is "Not Recommended"

There is nothing that states you will get less than 7.4V if using 2 x 3.7v batteries.

If you want to see the voltage drop to 5V, you need to use 2 x 3.0V batteries.

Exactly, and 3.0v batteries were obviously not used in this video. Nuff said...

 

[Thulium]

Batteries often give out higher volts ie 3.7 to 4.2 probably useing 3.6 volt batteries but fact remains end cap failed to lower resistance

The Xhaler is not advertised as reducing the voltage of 2 x 3.7V batteries, is it? The only voltage that is promised for that battery configuration is 7.4V with the cap tight.

You are expecting the cap to act like a traditional resistor, but it is in fact NOT advertised to work that way.

 

[angjen0816]

or use 3.7 and a dummy to get 3.7. Thulium is right, its not recommend to turn the cap at all...

 

[Nuck]

Exactly, and 3.0v batteries were obviously not used in this video. Nuff said...

Using 2 standard li-ion battery in series gives 8.4v nominal. They charge to 4.2v. The 3.7 is the average voltage rating during a li-ion cycle.

Under load at all voltages there is about a 0.5v drop due to current sag as the battery tries to keep up and is overstressed (we use batteries far too small for the task and they struggle)

The numbers in the video are exactly what you would expect and there should have been a voltage drop under load when the cap was turned.

The test shown in the video is absolutely legit unless there was editing down to fake the results. Given that Ive seen multiple people who did this and got the same results, including a friend in IRC, I'm pretty sure they are valid.

 

[MHR7331]

The Xhaler is not advertised as reducing the voltage of 2 x 3.7V batteries, is it? The only voltage that is promised for that battery configuration is 7.4V with the cap tight.

You are expecting the cap to act like a traditional resistor, but it is in fact NOT advertised to work that way.

So where's the evidence to prove it?

 

[Thulium]

Using 2 standard li-ion battery in series gives 8.4v nominal. They charge to 4.2v. The 3.7 is the average voltage rating during a li-ion cycle.

Under load at all voltages there is about a 0.5v drop due to current sag as the battery tries to keep up and is overstressed (we use batteries far too small for the task and they struggle)

The numbers in the video are exactly what you would expect and there should have been a voltage drop under load when the cap was turned.

The test shown in the video is absolutely legit unless there was editing down to fake the results. Given that Ive seen multiple people who did this and got the same results, including a friend in IRC, I'm pretty sure they are valid.

You are still talking about 3.7V batteries with which the Xhaler is advertised as giving 7.4V with the bottom cap tightened. The video shows the Xhaler working as advertised.

 

[Thulium]

So where's the evidence to prove it?

Good question. Show me a video using 3V batteries.

 

[MHR7331]

You are still talking about 3.7V batteries with which the Xhaler is advertised as giving 7.4V with the bottom cap tightened. The video shows the Xhaler working as advertised.

It's this mystical property of the cap I'd like to see demonstrated, that's all.

 

[Nuck]

You are still talking about 3.7V batteries with which the Xhaler is advertised as giving 7.4V with the bottom cap tightened. The video shows the Xhaler working as advertised.

If the voltage does not drop when using 2x3.7v bats it won't drop using 2x3.0v bats. This isn't an opinion, it's the simple application of Ohm's law. That test was absolutely valid.

 

[Thulium]

It's this mystical property of the cap I'd like to see demonstrated, that's all.

I understand that. I honestly want to see it too...but to suggest that this video means the Xhaler doesn't "do" 6V is absurd. I don't claim to know how the cap actually works, but this video shows the Xhaler performing as advertised.

Perhaps you could point me to a video of another mod that "proves" it runs at 5V so I can see how to do it?

 

[Mr Sinister]

Here is a how to:

how-test-device-under-load-prodigy-other-devices

 

[Nuck]

I understand that. I honestly want to see it too...but to suggest that this video means the Xhaler doesn't "do" 6V is absurd. I don't claim to know how the cap actually works, but this video shows the Xhaler performing as advertised.

Perhaps you could point me to a video of another mod that "proves" it runs at 5V so I can see how to do it?

The video doesn't prove the Xhaler doesn't do 6V, it proves it doesn't do 5V and it only proves that that particular xhaler doesn't do 5v. It could be there are some defective units out there.

The prodigy gets to 5v by placing a resistor in the switch. It's a very simple method and works fine.

If you have a 901 manual bat extender I can show you how to test any mod under load with almost no effort (assuming you have a multimeter)

 

[JeannieB360]

a persons experience doesn't cound as proof? not being cheeky, just asking.

Personally, I can't tell any difference using my Xhaler at 5v (bottom cap screwed in all the way) or at 6v (bottom cap loosened). But I wouldn't say that my experience is 'proof', even though I've tried this many times using the 801 adapter or the 901 adapter, and also using different atomiizers.

I'd say my experience supports the 'test' that showed on a meter that tightening or loosening the end cap made no difference. Drew questioned the validity of the test. But his 'proof' coming down to 'because I said so' isn't proof, either.

 

[angjen0816]

it only proves that you can't turn 7.4 down.