NHaler Support thread and Coupon Code!

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Drewsworld

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Hey D,
The batteries will not charge on the same charger...However batteryJunction is now selling a new charger that will charge both 3 and 3.6 batts... Ultrafire WF-138A Lithium-Ion CR123A Battery Charger

Also the battery charger that I sell that charges the long 3.7 battery will also charge the small 16340, 3.7 batteries...I will caution you thogh, the 7.4 volts is more a novelty and will kill attys quickly if not careful...You cant hold the button down long cause it will burn the liquid and the attys at a high rate...With the HV Attys its a whole different story of course...
Drew
 

flexsr

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I hope this the right thread for this..Just received my xhaler from Drew yesterday..wow customer service exceeded my expectations..this is my first HV device..vapes great with the caromizers!...however, when I use other atomizers (510, 901, 801) I get bad burnt taste..even when only press button for 1 second..I make sure that atomizer is soaked with nic juice and the cart is wet..Something I doing wrong? batteries too strong cuase they are new? cap is screwed in all the way so vaping at 5v....should I try off brand 3v batteries? maybe they are weaker? any tips wld be appreciated or link to where this was covered before....



last thing is can someone give me link to show me what be112 atomizer is..remember reading that this is no good for xhaler..but I dont know how to tell the difference between this and regular 801 atomizer (i have alot of janty 801 type atomizers..are these be112s?)
 

Drewsworld

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Batteries should level off relatively quick...Some liquids will taste burndt at higher voltages and attys take a little time to break in...Depending on which carts and filler you are using, this will also cause a little burndt taste...take a look at your cart and see id its got a little divit in it from the atty and if it does your carts are probably a little dry...Aside from the Blue foam, I have not found a filler for the 510 that dosent dry up immediately...The Joy attys work OK ...You may want to back them off a half turn or so to get a better draw if your not using the 901 to 801 adapter...If you have any more problems, you can call me at 732-256-9185...thanks
Drew
 
I tried to test the voltage on my Xhaler and here's what I learned: I should not *bleep* with things I don't understand if I don't have a backup plan.

Testing the voltage directly off the brass tip showed a voltage of 6.5V--there was no change with the cap loose or tight. Since I was able to taste a burnt flavor running with the cap loose that went away when I tightened the cap, I can conclude to my own satisfaction that the Xhaler is a system that relies on the load of the atomizer in use and the delrin cap to apply a load based resistance to the circuit. After a couple attempts trying to wire a connection between the Xhaler and the 510 atomizer that I could read the voltage, I finally got a reading on the Voltmeter that looked to be in the 5V range and I could hear what I thought was the sizzle of the atty working...but then lost the reading again...and couldn't get it back...Something was wrong...Oh there it is: I fried the battery spring. Game over. Called Drew and now I get to send back my Xhaler for replacement, in the meantime I get to ring in the New Year tonight without my Xhaler!:-x:evil:

In the middle of writing this message, I took a call from a very good friend of mine who happens to be an Electrical Engineer for Tektronics...We had a good conversation ranging to a variety of topics including children and pending divorces and I told him about my failed attempt to test this circuit. I explained what I was trying to do and he said that it sounds like what the delrin cap does is that by being a partial conductor it does not decrease the maximum voltage but it changes the SHAPE of the current (observable on an oscilloscope) so that there is lower than expected voltage when the circuit is under load.

Today I learned some painful yet powerful lessons. I am currently experiencing the most powerful craving for an analog I've had in months, and my measly 510 mini battery is really not cutting it for me right now.

So I am officially DONE with the "controversy". Someone I trust implicitly in the field of electronics has given me a sufficient answer (but I will have him take a look at it to make sure it does work the way he hypothesized) and my personal experience is that I got an objectively better (there was a distinct difference in flavor) vaping experience with the Xhaler configured for 5V than under the 6V configuration on fresh batteries, and I have my own experience as well as the testimonials of dozens of other Xhaler owners that when the vapor production begins to tail off as the batteries run low, loosening the cap does in fact bring vapor production back up a bit--functionality that, regardless how it works, is not available on more expensive mods.

Happy New Year. :sleep:
 

eclypse

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Drew walked me through fixing the spring. I'm back in business baby!!! Woohoo!

Now the only problem is the juice I was so looking forward to has been delivered...to the office...which is closed for the holiday. D'oh!

Wow, sounds like a bad day there Thulium! Glad drew fixed ya up.. if not i would of walked ya threw fixing the spring.

Hopefully the new year will bring better luck! HEHE

Hey, no worries man.. you can only learn by tring. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 

Leeroy5150

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Drew walked me through fixing the spring. I'm back in business baby!!! Woohoo!

Now the only problem is the juice I was so looking forward to has been delivered...to the office...which is closed for the holiday. D'oh!

Good to hear... Happy new year!!!

BTW: My 3.0 volt batts just finished charging and you guys are right. This thing hits like a truck! Wow.
 

flexsr

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I had same issue where said declined..but I had wrong billing zipcode I think..might want to check something silly like that....just got my xhaler last week..works great..the cartos work great with it! no hassle and great vaping....geez your profile says NJ...you misewell just go pick it up from drew...He is in NJ...
 

Leeroy5150

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Hey Drew, I'm excited to order from you but I got the "Transaction Declined. Please use another card and try again." message using my Visa debit card.

Do you accept debit cards? Do you know what's up or should I be worried that my card's being declined?

Thanks in advance!

I wouldn't worry too much. Neither of my Chase Mastercard/Debit Cards would work there either. All info was correct and I even tried twice on consecutive days(with plenty of funds in both accounts). I had to use a real "credit" Mastercard which went through without a hitch at all. No real biggie for me, just another case of some computers don't always play well with other computers. Drew got my order shipped out same day and it arrived perfect with a couple small "extras".
 

pam

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Hey Drew, My xhaler still isn't working. I emailed you a few weeks ago and you sent me a link to the video on here about screwing and unscrewing the end cap. That didn't help. I haven't had a chance to call due to the holidays and illness so I've basically just put my xhaler away. It only worked for about a week before it died. I really liked it during the week that it worked.

It's not the atomizer or batteries so I'm thinking it might be a switch problem? If you or anyone else could give me some troubleshooting tips I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
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Hey Drew, My xhaler still isn't working. I emailed you a few weeks ago and you sent me a link to the video on here about screwing and unscrewing the end cap. That didn't help. I haven't had a chance to call due to the holidays and illness so I've basically just put my xhaler away. It only worked for about a week before it died. I really liked it during the week that it worked.

It's not the atomizer or batteries so I'm thinking it might be a switch problem? If you or anyone else could give me some troubleshooting tips I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

what exactly is it doing (or not doing)?

If its not working at all, you might need some Noalox (aka Ox Guard). Try to have an Allen wrench, flathead screwdriver, and some Q-tips and paper towels available and you'll be ready to operate on your Xhaler. :)
 
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pam

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Hi Thulium, thanks for responding. I realize I didn't give much info in my post. It isn't doing anything. It's completely dead. I changed the atomizer and batteries and made sure both were working on other mods so I think it must be in the switch area. A few days before it died I had a pretty bad juice leak into the battery area which I thought I'd cleaned up good but I'm thinking that might have caused whatever problem I'm having now.

I did find a video tonight that I think might help. I think it's what you're referring to because it involved taking the bottom part off with an allen wrench. To be honest, I really haven't tried very hard to fix this so I hope my post didn't come off as complaining or slamming the xhaler. I probably shouldn't own mods since I'm not really into all the little stuff you need to do and I don't have a bunch of tools lying around. I've been sick so it hasn't been a top priority. I've been getting my 5 volt fix from a Kensington/passthrough/cartomizer combo that is pretty low maintenance which suits me. I guess I'll need to go to the hardware store soon.
 
Don't panic. I'm sure its going to be a lot easier to find and fix the problem than you think. Try this: Put in the batteries and put on the cap and then try turning it upside down. If you feel the batteries moving around, the spring may not be pushing them up far enough and will need to be stretched out or replaced.

(For the record, I don't have many tools either...so I went to the K-mart nearby, found the right size screwdriver on the shelf and used it there in the aisle for the 3 minutes it took to fix the problem I had on New Year's Eve. :lol:)
 
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Up In Vapor

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Hey Drew, My xhaler still isn't working. I emailed you a few weeks ago and you sent me a link to the video on here about screwing and unscrewing the end cap. That didn't help. I haven't had a chance to call due to the holidays and illness so I've basically just put my xhaler away. It only worked for about a week before it died. I really liked it during the week that it worked.

It's not the atomizer or batteries so I'm thinking it might be a switch problem? If you or anyone else could give me some troubleshooting tips I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

Pam,

The Xhaler is completely manual and relies on a good, clean contact between the end of the switch rod and the inside of the aluminum tube. Here's a link where some cleaning methods have been discussed:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/51377-xhaler-maintenance.html
Hope this does the trick for you. Your comment about juice spills leads me to believe that a good cleaning is what's needed. If this does not fix your issue then you should contact Drew.

Ed
 
Pam,

The Xhaler is completely manual and relies on a good, clean contact between the end of the switch rod and the inside of the aluminum tube. Here's a link where some cleaning methods have been discussed:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/51377-xhaler-maintenance.html
Hope this does the trick for you. Your comment about juice spills leads me to believe that a good cleaning is what's needed. If this does not fix your issue then you should contact Drew.

Ed

I think there's really only two possibilities: Either a dirty switch or a collapsed spring. Since she said that it's not working at all, I'm actually guessing that the spill may have caused a short which can cause the spring to get hot and then collapse causing the Xhaler to work not at all, but if that is the case she should be able to feel the batteries moving around when they should be held still by the spring. As you mention, a dirty switch could also be the problem, but it work probably work "a little" rather than the "not at all" she mentioned.

The final possibility is that the batteries are wasted, which is an easy enough thing to fix with a new pair. ;)
 
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