...trying to push VT on... thread including one dedicated to WL.
Yeah, that is very uncouth. I didn't see that, but I would have been upset at such a thing too. I would have pointed that out in that thread and not in a thread about all nic's and what folks think about them. Carrying a grudge over threads has led to some nastiness here on ECF and while I do get upset reading some posts, I do my darnedest to keep it contained within that thread and if I have trouble doing that, I ignore that poster.
(My ignore list is mainly folks who think I am a vendor and seem to be mad at me because they think I'm the "Hoosier" behind the shops in Indiana that have "Hoosier" in their name and cannot accept that I'm not them, nor am I Hoosier Tire nor the Hoosiers of IU. These kinds of things tick me off, but thankfully Hoosiers know that Hoosier is everywhere here in Indiana, so I've never had to ignore a Hoosier. /'s Most Hoosier in two sentences for the Hoosier points//)
One begins to wonder if someone is not being compensated for constantly pushing this supposed UK nic. And stranger even that those same few would question all others about COA and all that good stuff. Yet VT offers no COA, claims to get 100mg from a country (even Totally Wicked can't sell it) that only allows 72mg and no flags are ever raised. And many who never used Inawera all of a sudden are coincidentally pushing it too every since VT came online and begin offering it.
Does it not seem odd to you that flavoring and nic that people have praised for many years is now branded as garbage?
Yes I take offense to that being that many of us would not be where we are today without WL. Many would have given up vaping due to excessive cost or difficulty of obtaining high quality nic from an actual FDA inspected (which I'd wager VT is not) lab. Not to say there are not other good companies if someone attacked VZ I would defend them too. I vaped ejuice made with VZ from a local vendor for a looong time before getting into DIY.
I've been at this over 4 years. WL is a newcomer to me. Never even purchased anything from them. I take exception to the notion that DIY wouldn't be at the state it is without them. It's been because of the DIY community that it is at the state it's at, not any one vendor.
I still think XV's nic is better because it has more TH and is flavorless and clear... like VT's. I've been suggesting XV nic for years and constantly heard that folks don't want to pay that price. I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with folks filling out paperwork and paying a fee to be approved by an outside agency but since I've worked at companies and worked on that type of paperwork, I don't put as much trust in those approvals as most.
Heck, I've never tried Inawera, despite having been told someone was going to send me some so I could find out what the fuss is about. But I think it's great that folks get excited about Inawera because that means they are excited about their juice.
Kevin actually claims he is importing pure nic from the UK, not 100mg/ml. There is a pic or two of some of the handling equipment he has for the dilution floating around somewhere on ECF. I know Kevin like I know Kurt or Nikhil (to name just 2 of many), they are long time ECF members. I've seen quite a few mixers move on to become vendors or, like Kurt, become a behind the scenes person who helps folks know what is in their juice.
But if you want to paint me as sick for feeling the way I do then so be it.
I was not saying you were sick, merely upset. I know when I'm upset, I don't feel well.
And White's Meat Market does have the best beef, so if you're ever in my area and need a great steak for your portable grill, stop into White's.
