Niquid, dammit!
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Then they can grab a kleenex (R, TM) and weep with the facial tissue manufacturer as their proprietary word becomes part of the popular lexicon.
I think you're missing the point by focusing on the flavor rather than on what the liquid is and does.
Indeed so, and there are probably many other substances that would work fine as well. Given that we're talking about slang, though, I think niquid works far better than either e-juice or e-liquid, which really don't make sense if you think about it. Yes, I understand that the implication is "juice or liquid that goes in e-cigarettes", but it's clumsy terminology. "0 niquid" works just as well in shorthand as "0 nic juice"; it's easier to write and to say, and it makes more sense.
Yes, the liquid does (should) taste better than oil; how is this relevant?
I totally agree with rage on this. It seems that every once in a while i see someone trying to reinvent the wheel. Plain and simple, you smoked, you purchased a e-cigarette kit, and bought e-juice to with or without nic to get away from real cigs. No matter what you want to call it.. People that don't smoke will still not accept it no matter what you want to call it. You think by pulling out you PV that someone next to you is going to say, ok thats nice, you can blow smoke my way... forget it. wake up...
So my vote is simply E-Cig & E-Juice.. could wrtie much more but i just say it is good enough... and the public will be the more wiser that this is a product to help us all stop smoking cigs. That is where the relation of the names come in. dah
Thank You.
So my vote is simply E-Cig & E-Juice.. could wrtie much more but i just say it is good enough... and the public will be the more wiser that this is a product to help us all stop smoking cigs. That is where the relation of the names come in. dah
Thank You.
Wide awake, thanks, and eyes wide open; incidentally, your "blow smoke my way" scenario is the product of your own imagination.
For every non-smoker who actually finds themselves seated next to someone vaping, there would be - oh, I dunno, let's say 20,000 people whose first exposure to vaping will be via media reports. Yes, what we call these things does make a difference.
I've made exactly the same point several times in other threads, that the only value of the term "e-cigarette" is to try to convey the basic idea of the product in the short term. Beyond that, it's a nonsensical PR disaster waiting to happen.
Well the beauty of life and the freedom to think on your own is what forums are all about. I did not want to sound sarcastic so if it came across that way,, my true apologies.
So i drop out of this thread before you think i am in a fighting mood. I am not.
I will vape my VP2 E-Cig and my Pina colada menthol E-Juice tonight and awake to a better non smoking day... this part was a joke..
Thanks
So i drop out of this thread before you think i am in a fighting mood. I am not.
I will vape my VP2 E-Cig and my Pina colada menthol E-Juice tonight and awake to a better non smoking day... this part was a joke..
Thanks
What is it called with 0 nicotine? no niquid? Just been giving it some thought. At first I was just trying to get around the "someones already named their juice using that spelling".
I agree with this thought. Not sure what the point is of moving away from the term e-juice or e-liquid or ecig. This device has been around much longer than any of us jumping on the bandwagon.
To constantly change the terminology, in order to be more acceptable is simply foolish!
Let it be called an ecig, since the first court battle went our way this is the opportunity to give those who insist on treating vapers and smokers as second-rate citizens the opportunity to look at it through a different window.
I still remember when I was first introduced to the concept of the ecig. Had it been called a PNI or ENI or the liquid had been called niquid, I sincerely doubt I would have investigated further. I was looking for something to replace a CIGARETTE it was easier to accept the fact that an electonic cigarette might replace a real one. Anything more foreign than cigarette would not even have peaked my interest. There is a saying that there is strength in numbers and the more people who are comfortable trying this way of 'smoking' the more likely we can have the strength to fight the harrassment.
Does anyone even realize tht PMs first attempt at a 'personal nicotine vaporizer' (much like today's box mods) was branded much the same? It failed because it was too foreign a concept to the market they were trying to reach among other things.
The suggested terminology implies a drug delivery device which is what every vaper should be fighting against if we want to save our bacon from the FDA. As a matter of fact, Judge Leon sited in his ruling that it was due to the fact that they are branded in this way (smoking alternative), this was the very reason the FDA did not have a leg to stand on.
What constant changes of terminology? I'm suggesting a gradual movement towards a more euphonious and sensible slang term. If it caught on to the point where it actually penetrated mainstream consciousness, all the better.
I agree that acronyms ("Personal Nicotine Vaporizer" and so-on) tend to suggest drug delivery devices.
As I said, I'm talking about Forum slang, . My suggestion is to refer to a PV as a "vape", as I mentioned earlier; re. the double meaning of "smoke", as in "I'm gonna grab a smoke", "smoke break" and so-on. Thus, "I'm gonna grab a vape", "vape break", etc. That proposal is just extending the already ubiquitous slang for the activity (vaping) into a slang term for the PV itself.
Since this is not the first attempt I have seen to rename the ecig, I will defer that to my statement about constant changes in terminology.
I also refer to myself as vaping not smoking that is not the issue. We don't smoke, we vape. Smoke is created when combustibles are burned.
Juice, I like the term, I juce up my cart. My filter gets 'juicy' all of the above. My pineapple vape tastes like 'juice' (and it is 0 nic). 0 niquid? Would that not imply that there is 0 nicotine AND 0 liquid? BTW if you get your 'juice' from TV, you actually get tobacco 'juice' since he uses a maceration process.
I think the concept is great as it stands terminology and all.
Yes, and a cigarette is literally a small cigar, and a cigar is specifically a combustible tobacco product. I realize that the term "e-cigarette" is supposed to convey "something that works kind of like a cigarette, but is electronic", which is a complex idea; as I mentioned earlier, my objection is that "e-cigarette" actually connotes a high tech way of smoking tobacco.
I might not have been clear earlier, but I'm suggesting referring to the PV unit itself as a "vape", in the same way people often refer to a cigarette as a "smoke". That would be as an alternative to "e-cig", etc.
This is a bit like parents debating the names of their future children ... much comes down to what is connoted, which is basically a matter of taste. I dislike "juice" in this context - YMMV.
I don't know who TV is, agree that the concept is great and worry that we/the industry are going to face a lot of unnecessary hassles if we retain the "e-cigarette" terminology.
Personally, I don't think a change in terminology from e-juice/e-liquid to nicquid is necessary. Pretty much EVERY supplier/DIYer uses the current terminology, and NOT everyone reads these forums(the smart ones do ).
When it comes to the term 'e-cigarette', I think many people have already started calling their e-cigs PVs. Personal vaporizer works for me! However, the term e-cig has been around since the PV revolution began, and it's also the reason why many analog smokers gave PVs a chance in the first place, because the name sounded familiar(with the word cigarette in it).
I don't think there would be overwhelming success in changing our current lingo, but you can try! Also, i've gotten so used to typing in e-cigarette-forum.com, and I don't think ECF would change their name
).When it comes to the term 'e-cigarette', I think many people have already started calling their e-cigs PVs. Personal vaporizer works for me! However, the term e-cig has been around since the PV revolution began, and it's also the reason why many analog smokers gave PVs a chance in the first place, because the name sounded familiar(with the word cigarette in it).
I don't think there would be overwhelming success in changing our current lingo, but you can try! Also, i've gotten so used to typing in e-cigarette-forum.com, and I don't think ECF would change their name
I'm treating "vape" and "niquid" as a grassroots movement towards a better longterm terminology. This is still a very young industry, but one that I truly think represents the mainstream future; I think our way there will be easier if our language now represents the activity and products to their best advantage.
I've been trying to get away from calling them e-cigs because I find it easier to explain that what I have isn't a cigarette, it's an alternative to cigarettes if I don't use that word. (Actually, I mostly tell people "I've quit smoking. I've gone digital." Then I explain.) But I'm fine with Personal Vaporizer. People aren't going to know what I'm talking about without a definition regardless of what I call it.
As for that non-solid substance we put in the cartridges (which usually are fluid-retaining wicks rather than actual cartridges), we have so many names for it:
PG
VG
E-Liquid
E-Juice
Nicquid
Niquid
To-may-to
To-mah-to
As long as people understand what you are referring to, I'm not sure it makes much difference.
As for that non-solid substance we put in the cartridges (which usually are fluid-retaining wicks rather than actual cartridges), we have so many names for it:
PG
VG
E-Liquid
E-Juice
Nicquid
Niquid
To-may-to
To-mah-to
As long as people understand what you are referring to, I'm not sure it makes much difference.
I'm fine with personal vaporizer too - "vape" is abbreviative - although I don't quite get the need to specify that it's "personal". As opposed to communal?
Unfortunately, we just might need to start specifying!
E Hookahs
Re. niquid vs e-juice, to each their own. I'll be using the former, but whatever floats your nicotine addiction!
Spot on! But let's not call the whole thing off...I'm too addicted. {nyuk nyuk}
An "E Hookah"??!! Oh my word, is this a joke?
This is hilarious. Do we know how much they are?
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