Non-Smokers who don't think you quit because you vape.

[Baditude]

Several years ago I proudly announced to my hospital coworkers (doctors and nurses) that I had successfully quit smoking thanks to vaping.

They said great, but when do you plan to quit vaping? I replied, I don't plan to quit.

But you're still using nicotine!!!

I explained that nicotine used in small doses is no more harmful than using caffeine. So consider how much Mountain Dew or coffee that you drink all day, every day before telling me how harmful nicotine and vaping is.

No one could muster a reply to that, because all of them were either coffee or mountain dew addicts.

 

[kross8]

Because vaping is so similar to smoking I had a more difficult time seeing myself as a nonsmoker. ( a different entity than a never smoker)

But the day it dawned on me was sometime into vaping and I realized that for the first time I could actually and truthfully say I'm a non smoker..

it will hit you someday im sure. Just takes time I think as we spent our lives as smokers and its hard to differentiate between the habit of smoking and the habit of vaping - but it isn't the same, and neither is a non smoker the same as a never smoker.

I don't think of myself as a smoker,,, more of a flavor tester,, not 1 cigarette I ever smoked tasted like cookies or peach sorbe or pins colada,,, and I find I don't like being around cigarette smoke,, everyone seems to like my perfume now

 

[Chuck64]

I find its unfortunate that those who know nothing about vaping frown on it when you tell them you have quit smoking. I’ve met some really really ignorant people. Typically, I don’t bother getting into all the differences between vaping and smoking because to be honest they won’t even listen. Interesting how typically those same people will applaud folks who have used the gum, patch or even the pill. Yet, vaping in my opinion is no different than any of those methods.

People can just be a pain in the ... sometimes. It's like myself at Wal-Mart the other day. I have a cable lock I throw through my scooter just to keep honest people honest, and I sleep a little better at night. This guy walks up behind me and says "you know anybody could just come along and cut the cable and steal your scooter". Why? Why do they do that? Don't even get me started on people's reaction when I tell them I've been clean for a year from opiates and tell them I do it by going to the methadone clinic 6 mornings a week.

 

[Uncle Willie]

If Aliens somehow transported all Vape Goods and Liquid off the Earth and there was none to be found, I would be the first in line at the Quick Trip to buy a pack of Marlboros ..

YMMV ..

 

[F-machine]

Non-smokers... Well, you gotta give them that doubt. It's alright, you should understand, even smokers that have no idea about vaping sometimes are hard to convince, even for their own good. Non-smokers are like vegetarians. Eggs, milk and sometimes even the food that livestock eat like corn they don't eat. I can't understand them, so that's on me and they don't understand vapers... We just gotta live with them, and they feel the same for us. Give them their space and hope they give us ours...

 

[ScottP]

Yeah, it's sad.

Even sadder - my sister still insists that vaping is "worse than smoking". My brother-in-law (her husband) has struggled for years to quit smoking. He is currently smoking. Using her logic, he is better off than all of us.

I would tell her that she is correct in the same way that drinking water with hexavalent chromium, chlorine and fluoride in it is safer than drinking water with just chlorine and fluoride in it.

 

[ScottP]

If Aliens somehow transported all Vape Goods and Liquid off the Earth and there was none to be found, I would be the first in line at the Quick Trip to buy a pack of Marlboros ..

YMMV ..

I would be in my shop making new stuff to vape with. They would have to get rid of all tobacco plants, all resistance wire, all cotton, all PG, all VG and all high drain batteries to stop me at this point.

 

[ScottP]

Interesting how typically those same people will applaud folks who have used the gum, patch or even the pill. Yet, vaping in my opinion is no different than any of those methods.

There is one difference. People that use gum, patches, or pills, do not normally keep using them "forever". They use them until cravings seem to go away then they quit using those items. We vapers tend to keep on vaping. Thus the difference is the other products are supposed to get people to stop using nicotine completely where as vaping is harm reduction while still getting the nic fix.

That said I DO consider vapers as non-smokers/former-smokers just as I would consider someone that switches from smoking to dip/chew as a non-smoker/former-smoker, but that does not mean nicotine free.

 

[VictorC]

I absolutely don't care about "non-smokers" opinion.

 

[chellie]

That was a HUGE pet peeve of mine years back and I would patiently take the time to try to educate them. I was so proud of myself for giving up a lifelong habit of stinkies and I was really annoyed when people I know kind of discounted it because I vape.

Then I thought to myself "who cares". I am confident and do not need their validation. Fast forward a few years and it does not bother me at all --- f them. I am very happy with myself and my vaping and refuse to justify it. Not worth my time.

That's my mindset now.

(I am still nice and sweet if folks want to learn about vaping or need help but I am done justifying myself to folks who have already made up their mind ---- no matter what!)

 

[kross8]

I have an onnery streak in me, , I would listen with full eye contact to them,, then I would say something to the effect,,, let's reverse this conversation,,, 'you do realize you don't have to eat given the amount of body fat you are carrying around '


People tend to stop judging others when they themselves are not so perfect

 

[chellie]

If Aliens somehow transported all Vape Goods and Liquid off the Earth and there was none to be found, I would be the first in line at the Quick Trip to buy a pack of Marlboros ..

YMMV ..

I really cannot say with 100% certainty if I would ever smoke again under the circumstances you outlined. I'd like to think I would not. Been vaping for 6+ years and feel I am not as addicted. I think, under those God-forbid circumstances, I might try to stop altogether or since I now use RTA's and stuff I might try to find something relatively safe that I could vape.

In real-life - I have enough pre-coiled coils to last me a lifetime - a number of tanks and boxes that I've never used --- I can always find batteries and if I could not get any nic or my supply ran out what I'd likely do is vape a homebrew of flavored VG.

I even saw a vape where they put soda/soft drink or something in it -- https://www.ecigclick.co.uk/smoant-campbel-kit-preview/

 

[Zazie]

I think some people resent vaping because it allows people to stop smoking without suffering as much or, often, at all. There's this puritanical caviler sitting on their shoulders declaring that those with what they consider to be vices must undergo difficult penance before they can be deemed to be free of sin. Vaping mitigates/eliminates that aspect of quitting smoking, so, for some, it amounts to winning by cheating.

 

[Letitia]

I think some people resent vaping because it allows people to stop smoking without suffering as much or, often, at all. There's this puritanical caviler sitting on their shoulders declaring that those with what they consider to be vices must undergo difficult penance before they can be deemed to be free of sin. Vaping mitigates/eliminates that aspect of quitting smoking, so, for some, it amounts to winning by cheating.

Have a neighbor that thinks this way. I simply pointed out the harm reduction would be beneficial while he talks himself into quitting nicotine. Nope the big man says it's not quitting unless you are doing nothing (in other words crutches are for wimps). I find I'm good with the wimpy road I've chosen.

 

[Uncle Willie]

I really cannot say with 100% certainty if I would ever smoke again under the circumstances you outlined. I'd like to think I would not. Been vaping for 6+ years and feel I am not as addicted. I think, under those God-forbid circumstances, I might try to stop altogether or since I now use RTA's and stuff I might try to find something relatively safe that I could vape.

In real-life - I have enough pre-coiled coils to last me a lifetime - a number of tanks and boxes that I've never used --- I can always find batteries and if I could not get any nic or my supply ran out what I'd likely do is vape a homebrew of flavored VG.

I even saw a vape where they put soda/soft drink or something in it -- https://www.ecigclick.co.uk/smoant-campbel-kit-preview/

My point, if I had one, was :: If the Vape had never been invented and never existed in any form, ever, how many of us would still be on the cigs .. ?? I know I would be and I'm happy to admit it .. I liked smoking ..

Tamping down that fresh pack, unwrapping the plastic string, pulling that silver foil out, sliding a new smoke out, holding it pressed between my lips as I flicked that old Zippo .. smelling the lighter fluid aroma mixed with that puff, inhaling it in a satisfying fashion ..

and the first cig of the day .. ?? Don't even get me started ..

 

[vapdivrr]

If Aliens somehow transported all Vape Goods and Liquid off the Earth and there was none to be found, I would be the first in line at the Quick Trip to buy a pack of Marlboros ..

YMMV ..

I think this could be the difference between those who consider themselves non or ex smokers. if one knows they would smoke again, then perhaps they dont consider themselves non smokers, but for those that know there's no possible way to ever smoke again, they probably consider themselves non smokers

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[Zazie]

My point, if I had one, was :: If the Vape had never been invented and never existed in any form, ever, how many of us would still be on the cigs .. ?? I know I would be and I'm happy to admit it .. I liked smoking ..

Tamping down that fresh pack, unwrapping the plastic string, pulling that silver foil out, sliding a new smoke out, holding it pressed between my lips as I flicked that old Zippo .. smelling the lighter fluid aroma mixed with that puff, inhaling it in a satisfying fashion ..

and the first cig of the day .. ?? Don't even get me started ..

I really miss my Zippo. I got one late in my smoking career and was so proud when I taught myself how to use it one-handed.

 

[Baditude]

I really miss my Zippo. I got one late in my smoking career and was so proud when I taught myself how to use it one-handed.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

I have an onnery streak in me, , I would listen with full eye contact to them,, then I would say something to the effect,,, let's reverse this conversation,,, 'you do realize you don't have to eat given the amount of body fat you are carrying around '


People tend to stop judging others when they themselves are not so perfect

I've sort of done the same, but a little less direct, and more geared toward humiliating them for trying to sound informed.

Friend of a friend gave me one of those "worse than cigarettes comments." I just gave them a look and tone of genuine concern and replied with something like "Really? Wow, I'm surprised, because I was looking into it a little and saw that Britain's Royal College of Physicians - similar to our Surgeon General, states that it's 95% safer than smoking because you don't inhale thousands of carcinogens like smoking. And all the rumors about popcorn lung, aldehydes, and metals have been disproven multiple times. And there has never been a documented case of a vape caused illness. Out of all the legitimate studies I've seen, nothing bad has been documented yet, after studying it for over 10 years. What have you heard - is there something new?"

All I got was something like - "I just keep hearing bad things about it, and I wouldn't do it." It was easy to see on his face how uncomfortable and embarrassed he was in front of everyone.

 

[kross8]

I've sort of done the same, but a little less direct, and more geared toward humiliating them for trying to sound informed.

Friend of a friend gave me one of those "worse than cigarettes comments." I just gave them a look and tone of genuine concern and replied with something like "Really? Wow, I'm surprised, because I was looking into it a little and saw that Britain's Royal College of Physicians - similar to our Surgeon General, states that it's 95% safer than smoking because you don't inhale thousands of carcinogens like smoking. And all the rumors about popcorn lung, aldehydes, and metals have been disproven multiple times. And there has never been a documented case of a vape caused illness. Out of all the legitimate studies I've seen, nothing bad has been documented yet, after studying it for over 10 years. What have you heard - is there something new?"

All I got was something like - "I just keep hearing bad things about it, and I wouldn't do it." It was easy to see on his face how uncomfortable and embarrassed he was in front of everyone.

I have given the near same response but I added, you do know their fda isn't bought and controlled by the pharmacy, food and tobacco industry,,, so don't believe what the media dictates.

I'm getting to the age that my condition of not suffering a fool is hard to hide and I no longer feel compelled to be PC correct to spare another their ignorance