F the naysayers. Like another poster said, the fact is that vaping is not as bad for you and it doesn't stink. I'd still smoke up a storm just to piss people like that off if it wasn't so bad for you.
you didn't really quit smoking because you're vaping...
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you are wasting your breath on nicotine Nazis. people like this have the inherent need to be smug and superior. all i can say is there is a revolution going on at work. in places that are notorious for poor air quality, the smog level is definitely dropping. even had a co worker tell me she quit smoking using the suicide pills. she had been told about vaping, but decided to go the other route. i am getting my boss to switch from the 2 PAD choke fest to vaping. smoking is becoming so 1970's. i see the difference when i go to the gas stations and local supermarkets, the price of smokes is going down. more deals and giveaways. so big daddy tobacco will be feeling the sting very soon. another friend asked me this morning, if i had 420 in my PV. he knows me to be a smoker, and was around for my last 2 failures. told him i quit, i told him my score. he tried to start saying something unintentionally mean as friends often do. i stopped him right there, i told him my score. conversation over. it is simple math. especially for lifetime smokers like me. these people see me year after year with cigs sticking from every part of my body. hit them with the math. the numbers don't lie, and every day they get bigger, and the excuses become lamer. can't beat the facts. in three months going to start offering the fatties to put their money where their mouth is. got a nice big cold storage to run the heart attack mile. thousand dollars a race. would love to have them choke on buying me vape supplies for a year.
Don't bother stooping to their level of ignorance/stupidity ...they'll just beat you with experience.
That is possibly the shortest and most to the point answer I've seen to this.
The way I see it, I'll never be a non smoker. I'm an ex smoker. I've had people ask me what I'm puffing on, and when I answer, I usually get questions on where to get one (awesome, and I've converted at least a dozen people) or someone being like "pfft, THAT DOESN'T WORK" to which I just reply "it works for me". It's always strangers who do that though. The people I've gotten to switch to vaping all know me, and I was by far the heaviest smoker of the bunch, so if it worked for me, why wouldn't it work for them?
Yep, once a smoker always a smoker...vaping being safer and better for you doesn't change that, you're still basically smoking the way I see it...I just tell ppl I quit smoking cigarettes, saying I quit smoking feels like a lie to me.
My wife is of the, "Well you didn't really quit because you still use that." crowd. Whatever. My doctor on the other hand, when told that I had stopped all tobacco use and just used "electronics", said, "Congratulations, that's the best thing you could have done for your health. You should be very proud." So apparently he considers it quitting. Guess whose opinion carries more weight?
You wanna pat urself on the back and make urself feel better like u accomplished something monumental, cool...personally it was very easy for me to transition and I don't really feel like I did anything all that amazing...that's just ME...not saying I don't feel a LOT better healthwise or don't save a ton of $ or whatever but that's besides the point...
I love vaping, wish I'd found it earlier but I'm not about to argue w/ ppl who say I didn't really quit smoking cuz I agree w/ them - I switched from smoking tobacco to smoking juice from a vaporizer...it's better for me and I'm glad I did it but it really was VERY easy. FOR ME. End of story
I love vaping, wish I'd found it earlier but I'm not about to argue w/ ppl who say I didn't really quit smoking cuz I agree w/ them - I switched from smoking tobacco to smoking juice from a vaporizer...it's better for me and I'm glad I did it but it really was VERY easy. FOR ME. End of story
You know what, I WILL pat myself on the back. I smoked for 16 years. I tried the patches, gum, lozenges...none of it worked. I decided to try e-cigs on a friend's advice..and had my last cigarette 4 days after buying my first 510. No, it wasn't really hard, not when compared to my previous attempts. But it was something I had previously doubted I'd ever be able to do, and it felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. Suddenly tobacco-related illness was not likely to kill me before my time.
Hell yes I'm happy about that. Was it a personal achievement? I don't care. I'm just grateful for what happened. I'm grateful to the various inventors and improvers of the personal vaporizer. I'm grateful that it worked so well for me. And even though it turned out to be much easier than I expected to remove tobacco from my life, I'm still proud that I did. And I will continue to feel that way for the rest of my (hopefully longer) life.
Taking pride in improvements you've made in your life is not a bad thing. It only becomes a bad thing if it leads you to believe you are better than other people. You can have the first without the second.
Patting yourself on the back is something that people should try to do more often, not less. It's a good thing, so long as you remember to pat others on the back, too.
Hell yes I'm happy about that. Was it a personal achievement? I don't care. I'm just grateful for what happened. I'm grateful to the various inventors and improvers of the personal vaporizer. I'm grateful that it worked so well for me. And even though it turned out to be much easier than I expected to remove tobacco from my life, I'm still proud that I did. And I will continue to feel that way for the rest of my (hopefully longer) life.
Taking pride in improvements you've made in your life is not a bad thing. It only becomes a bad thing if it leads you to believe you are better than other people. You can have the first without the second.
Patting yourself on the back is something that people should try to do more often, not less. It's a good thing, so long as you remember to pat others on the back, too.
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I think you can find doughnut juice out there somewhere... then you can have the flavor and STILL pat yourself on the backI pat myself on the back every time I don't eat a donut.
Damn I love donuts!
I think you can find doughnut juice out there somewhere... then you can have the flavor and STILL pat yourself on the back
You're still eating doughnuts.
We need people who have doctors like this to send the doctor's contact info to CASAA, so we can quietly start approaching these doctors and see how many we can convince to publicly come out and support e-cigarettes as a harm reduction product. A few days ago an ANTZ politician confronted a vaper at a hearing in Utah and demanded to know if any doctors out there are recommending/ok with e-cigarettes and it would have been nice if we could have had a nice list for her to throw back at him!
I think people aren't patting themselves on the back as much as giving credit to the e-cigarettes for helping them do something they haven't been able to do previously.
It's great you found it so easy (I did, as well) but e-cigarettes AREN'T the same as smoking for a LOT of smokers. They try it and it just isn't the same so go back to smoking or they find that "something is missing." For YOU "smoking" is inhaling nicotine and visible smoke or vapor. For other smokers, "smoking" is MAOIs or the smell of real smoke or the taste of real smoke or the feel of a soft cigarette and without that aspect it just isn't the same.
For the ANTZ and non-smokers who tell people, "you haven't really quit smoking," smoking either means you're still killing yourself and (selfishly) everyone else exposed to your second-hand vapor or you're still a sad and pathetic addict, who will probably go back to the real thing and kill yourself and (selfishly) everyone exposed to your second hand smoke. Are you THEIR version of a "smoker?"
I get what you are saying. Saying vaping (inhaling nicotine) isn't the same as smoking is like saying driving with seat belts and airbags isn't "driving." We haven't changed our behavior, so we really are doing the same thing. But it's really like saying someone who occasionally has a beer on the weekends and someone who gets inebriated every night are both "drinkers." Yes, they both are drinking alcohol, but can you really say they are the same thing? The big picture shows that they are NOT the same thing.
So, if you want to keep using the term smoking, good luck with that. Personally, I feel for the smokers and think the attitudes towards and treatment of them are unfair and over-the-top. Smokers are being screwed and most of the "evidence" against them is made up BS. I cringe when I see vapers call smokers stinky or throw smokers under the bus to justify vaping - because it is true that both vaping and smoking ARE both methods to enjoy consuming nicotine and we should be allies. But if we want to keep vaping without having people hounding us to quit all of the time and kicking us out in the cold with the poor smokers, we either have to change attitudes about smoking and smokers (not going to happen) or get people to understand that while vaping and smoking are similar, they aren't the same because everything people hate about smoking and smokers is not there with vaping. We are vapers, not smokers, because THERE IS NO SMOKE.
If you want to relate to smokers, consider that we are all "addicts" according to the ANTZ. But is being a nicotine "addict" the same as being an addict of hard street drugs, alcohol or pharmaceutical drugs? Is being "under the influence" of nicotine anywhere near the same as being high or drunk? Are we unable to do our jobs or take care of our families? Do we commit crimes to get our next "fix?" Or are we more like caffeine addicts, who actually function better because of their drug of choice?
There are similarities between smoking and vaping, but there are huge differences that set them apart.
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Already had several of these issues. I'll start by saying the funniest was when I was outside of a restaurant. I still go outside if a place is crowded just to avoid the ...... and really enjoy my vape. My exhaled vapor cloud was taken by the wind despite conscious efforts to exhale away from the front door. A woman, whose face was pulled so tight from plastic surgery she could no longer express any emotion, exiting the restaurant was caught in the vapor and let out an obvious cough and dirty looked me ( her eyes could still squint )because she assumed it was smoke. I just smiled and thought what an @s.
Did the you're still smoking argument with my sister in laws obese boyfriend who just reminds me of Chet from Weird Science after Kelly Lebroks character changes him. I was livid. Cited every known fact I could then asked him if I was smoke free and on the patch would he still say I was smoking? Had nothing. The guy epitomizes d-bag.
Friend/neighbor who still smokes told me that I should smoke like a man jokingly and that he would just quit rather than try vaping. Tried explaining it's the best of both. Got nowhere. He's not quitting anytime soon. Really think it's a jealousy thing with smokers. Which is why they mock it at first. I think I might of as well.
Don't bother with people I've learned. Only going to give yourself headaches. General population is really dumb and ignorant but, have no problems expressing their opinion on something they literally know nothing about. We have to have warning labels on hot drink cups that say" contents may be hot". Otherwise ol'dumb dumb might take a huge gulp of scalding hot liquid and then sue.
Did the you're still smoking argument with my sister in laws obese boyfriend who just reminds me of Chet from Weird Science after Kelly Lebroks character changes him. I was livid. Cited every known fact I could then asked him if I was smoke free and on the patch would he still say I was smoking? Had nothing. The guy epitomizes d-bag.
Friend/neighbor who still smokes told me that I should smoke like a man jokingly and that he would just quit rather than try vaping. Tried explaining it's the best of both. Got nowhere. He's not quitting anytime soon. Really think it's a jealousy thing with smokers. Which is why they mock it at first. I think I might of as well.
Don't bother with people I've learned. Only going to give yourself headaches. General population is really dumb and ignorant but, have no problems expressing their opinion on something they literally know nothing about. We have to have warning labels on hot drink cups that say" contents may be hot". Otherwise ol'dumb dumb might take a huge gulp of scalding hot liquid and then sue.
This happened to me the other day at the post office. I tried to explain but after a minute just smiled and walked away. I don't think she understood I didn't start vaping to quit smoking. I started vaping to reduce the cost of smoking. The health benefits is just icing on the cake. But people don't want to understand how much of a miracle cure this is for smokers. Maybe not a miracle but damn close. Vaping is the future of nicotine delivery. I'm sure the first people with horseless carriages where met with similar ignorance. I see people smoking cigarettes and think "how Amish".
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