Just curious, it looks like a lot of ppl are starting with the 510 and others vs. the 808... Is there a big reason for that?
Not many starting with an 808?
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I started with an 808 and feel it's a great, simple way to enter the world of vaping. I now have an eGo on the way and can't wait for it to get here! With that being said, I still plan on keeping my 808 so I have a "back-up".
I kinda wish I had started w/ a KR8. I started w/ a 40x and quickly stepped up to a 510 auto. Granted, 510 is better than a 40x, but I recently traded my 510 batts for some KR8s. I really like the KR8s ALOT better. First off, the vacuum switch doesn't fire in the car(like my 510s), the vapor is much more consistent and much warmer. I do think that w/ some juice my eGo(same voltage as the 510) does taste better, but my current favorites are my SmokeStik 4081s. I have a use for all of them. But currently my eGos are backup, and I am really liking these autos. The 510 really put me off to autos, especially after getting an eGo.
So maybe it's just personal preference then?
/me == 1PAD(Set your clock by it) Marb Menthol Lights for 9 years now... Hoping to make this my way out, as the patches/gum do nothing for me at all... Plus it might just be flat-out fun with all these flavors. haha. We'll see, I'm ordering tonight, I guess it'll be the 808, just kinda double-checking my logic. haha.
/me == 1PAD(Set your clock by it) Marb Menthol Lights for 9 years now... Hoping to make this my way out, as the patches/gum do nothing for me at all... Plus it might just be flat-out fun with all these flavors. haha. We'll see, I'm ordering tonight, I guess it'll be the 808, just kinda double-checking my logic. haha.
The easily most cigarette like PV I have tried is the SmokeStik batts. And they're menthol is really good. SmokeStik ::: Alternative Smoking They are a bit pricey, but considering the cost of a carton of cigs, not too bad. An SS is what Katherine Heigle had on Letterman. But a KR8 would serve you well if on a budget. Nhaler.com has some US assembled KR8s and that would be a great way to go. I suggest doing some reading in the ECF library to understand the different models better.
The eGo is no way at same voltage as a 510 battery the eGo is 3.2v (it says 3.7 but thats not accurate) The 510 is roughly on a good battery 2.3v the KR808D-1 is true 3.7 and some atomizers will over volt and fail in 3 days. also there is a DSE 808 so you have to explain which one your talking about. if your useing the DSE 808 its kicking out mad vapor because of the 801 atomizer is designed to do just that the 510 is very crummy at vapor production until it is close to dieing because of defects in its design.
I personally favor a 306 atty on a KR8 battery with an adapter.
Wow. That became pretty in-depth. lol. I suppose that the kr808 will still be my choice... friends keep telling me I'll just end up buying a "mod" later, but I'm still unsure about the size and such... Maybe once I'm a "vaper" and not a smoker, I won't worry about it being completely different than a cig. we'll see.
510's and 808's are both great, if you can afford it, get both, you'll be happy you did
Your friend is right. If you like vaping and decide to stick with it, you will most likely end up with a mod at some point. The vast majority of us have.
I wish I had skipped the mass produced PVs and went straight to a mod myself. Instead, I spent $100 on a mega ego kit that has been sitting in a box collecting dust since I bought my first mod a week or so after I started vaping.
I wish I had skipped the mass produced PVs and went straight to a mod myself. Instead, I spent $100 on a mega ego kit that has been sitting in a box collecting dust since I bought my first mod a week or so after I started vaping.
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OP, I was just like you. I started this to quit smoking because all patches and gums did for me was make me feel like I was overdosing on nic when I smoked. They did nothing to control the cravings because a HUGE part of it was habit.
For people like me, I think vaping is a great alternative because it satisfies the habit in a way that other options just can't. You may find that it's easiest to quit if you stick with some thing cigarette sized at first.
I started with a BluCig at first, and while I no longer recommend them to people and don't use them anymore, I don't regret the purchase. The revolver elite is the best cig-sized PV I've seen, and about the same cost as Blu. As good as it is, you'll probably find yourself wanting an eGo or similar after you get used to it and stop craving the Marbs. I'm ordering an ego clone from another company tomorrow.
For people like me, I think vaping is a great alternative because it satisfies the habit in a way that other options just can't. You may find that it's easiest to quit if you stick with some thing cigarette sized at first.
I started with a BluCig at first, and while I no longer recommend them to people and don't use them anymore, I don't regret the purchase. The revolver elite is the best cig-sized PV I've seen, and about the same cost as Blu. As good as it is, you'll probably find yourself wanting an eGo or similar after you get used to it and stop craving the Marbs. I'm ordering an ego clone from another company tomorrow.
Very happy with 808s -- I've used both NHaler and vapor4life(V4L), good service from both companies. NHaler's 10% off is saveinnj, while v4l's is smilin, and v4l often has other sales.
I've had both standard and manual batteries, XLs from V4L, and passthroughs from both companies -- good experience with them, and both have taken care of batteries that had issues early on.
I've just graduated to a G400 from NHaler -- it's a 900 mAh auto battery, uses 2ml cartomizers as well as standard KR808D-1 cartos. Tremendous battery run time, and the cartos last a long time between refills.
If you want to play with atomizers later on, a 901 atomizer will work on 808 manual batteries.
Despite what a lot of people say, I've had really good luck with the automatic batteries from both companies, tend to prefer them most of the time.
I've had both standard and manual batteries, XLs from V4L, and passthroughs from both companies -- good experience with them, and both have taken care of batteries that had issues early on.
I've just graduated to a G400 from NHaler -- it's a 900 mAh auto battery, uses 2ml cartomizers as well as standard KR808D-1 cartos. Tremendous battery run time, and the cartos last a long time between refills.
If you want to play with atomizers later on, a 901 atomizer will work on 808 manual batteries.
Despite what a lot of people say, I've had really good luck with the automatic batteries from both companies, tend to prefer them most of the time.
Ignorance. I started with the 510 because that's what I was told. Was going to start with 901 but now that I know the KR808 would be my pick. Although since I tried the Pitbull it would be the one if it was sold at that time.
I almost got a E9 but then found this forum and after much research, decided the KR808D-1 was the way to go. More availability and reviews were pretty good.
Received it on Saturday (5 days ago) and couldn't be happier. Got prefilled carto's and also a couple of juice bottles and been refilling the same 2 carts for the last 5 days and they seem to still be working good. I also got a kit with 2 auto batteries.
Have the longer XL manual battery coming today along with some blank carto's. Still waiting for more juice to come in from FreedomSmokeUSA but probably won't be here until Satuday :-(
So far, i'm pretty happy with the purchase. Haven't had an analog in days.
Received it on Saturday (5 days ago) and couldn't be happier. Got prefilled carto's and also a couple of juice bottles and been refilling the same 2 carts for the last 5 days and they seem to still be working good. I also got a kit with 2 auto batteries.
Have the longer XL manual battery coming today along with some blank carto's. Still waiting for more juice to come in from FreedomSmokeUSA but probably won't be here until Satuday :-(
So far, i'm pretty happy with the purchase. Haven't had an analog in days.
I started with an 808 and still use it daily. Love it. I don’t know why anyone would recommend a 510 (my personal opinion) the batt life stinks. I do get the whole eGo thing, I had one. the batts last a long time and I do think that some juices tasted slightly better on it probably due to the lower voltage. I got to see what the eGo craze was all about and I passed it on to someone starting out.
The 808d-1 doesn’t seem to have as big a fanbase for some reason. Also models seem to be following trends just like everything else in life. When I started vaping in March everyone would suggest a 510 but rarely an 808. 4 months after that people suggest eGos (myself included at times)... guarantee in 6 months there will be some other new tech that will be the current favorite but I don’t think the 808 will ever have a huge fanbase until they have their own proprietary atomizer in my humble opininion. Yes, you can use a 901 but I found them to be leakier than a 510 and thus slightly annoying. Let’s face it. Lots of mods have a 510 connector these days. A few have 801 or 901 connectors but most you need an adapter. Makes it really easy to switch from a 510 or eGo to a mod ... you can use all your attys/drip tips/cartos etc. Adapters work, they serve a purpose but it is just one more thing to buy, have to carry around, not lose, etc. Anyway, enough of me prattling on....
I love my 808. It is a solid choice. It is 3.7v. It is pretty discreet and sometimes especially when I am out with my kids,family,friends I do not want to draw much attention to my pv. After 7 months I still do not own a big battery mod...maybe for my year anniv. I go through phases where I really want one and then phases where I love the simplicity of a white 808 shorty auto + cartomizer ( I must say for a time I was pro manual batt but have recently had good luck with them again) . btw...I smoked marlboro menthol lights for 10 of my smoking years and found that Backwoods Brew Menthol (with Light menthol added to be a pretty good substitute) ... good luck.
The 808d-1 doesn’t seem to have as big a fanbase for some reason. Also models seem to be following trends just like everything else in life. When I started vaping in March everyone would suggest a 510 but rarely an 808. 4 months after that people suggest eGos (myself included at times)... guarantee in 6 months there will be some other new tech that will be the current favorite but I don’t think the 808 will ever have a huge fanbase until they have their own proprietary atomizer in my humble opininion. Yes, you can use a 901 but I found them to be leakier than a 510 and thus slightly annoying. Let’s face it. Lots of mods have a 510 connector these days. A few have 801 or 901 connectors but most you need an adapter. Makes it really easy to switch from a 510 or eGo to a mod ... you can use all your attys/drip tips/cartos etc. Adapters work, they serve a purpose but it is just one more thing to buy, have to carry around, not lose, etc. Anyway, enough of me prattling on....
I love my 808. It is a solid choice. It is 3.7v. It is pretty discreet and sometimes especially when I am out with my kids,family,friends I do not want to draw much attention to my pv. After 7 months I still do not own a big battery mod...maybe for my year anniv. I go through phases where I really want one and then phases where I love the simplicity of a white 808 shorty auto + cartomizer ( I must say for a time I was pro manual batt but have recently had good luck with them again) . btw...I smoked marlboro menthol lights for 10 of my smoking years and found that Backwoods Brew Menthol (with Light menthol added to be a pretty good substitute) ... good luck.
Wow thanks all... And I'll definitely try the Backwoods Menthol. I'm still doing plenty of reading, but it seems to me (being a military Aviation electronics veteran, and general geek/nerd/dork/whatever) that the big things about mods are the batteries, since attys/cartos are interchangeable(sp) with adapters and such... no? It's very easy to manipulate voltages from a power source with a handful of parts from the big-boy geek suppliers... What's the hype?
Beats me, really. Fundamentally you're atomizing the liquid, straight v-squared-over-R power situation. More delivered power, whether through higher V or a lower resistance atomizer/cartomizer, means a hotter vaporization, more current draw, which leads to battery life questions (how many delivered mAh). You do get more kick from greater power, but if you go too high in voltage or low in resistance you tend to mask out/burn some flavors. The 808 outputs a true 3.7V as previously noted, and standard 808 cartos with an 808 battery work well for me.
Cartomizer vs atomizer + cartridge or dripping is a personal taste thing. I like the convenience of a cartomizer -- 808 cartos hold a decent amount of liquid, and the big ones hold a huge amount, compared to most atomizer cartridges. The carto downside is that you then need to be content with only one flavor in that carto until you clean it or toss it.
The mod zone gets people more into the hobbyist end, and also allows the use of quite low cost batteries -- cheap to replace. Some people then go towards wetboxes, things that include a 3 or 6 ml bottle to hold liquid, to decrease how often refills are needed.
It's all good, depends on what people like -- you break out of the one cigarette form-factor and method of use, more room for some personal expression.
Enjoy!
Cartomizer vs atomizer + cartridge or dripping is a personal taste thing. I like the convenience of a cartomizer -- 808 cartos hold a decent amount of liquid, and the big ones hold a huge amount, compared to most atomizer cartridges. The carto downside is that you then need to be content with only one flavor in that carto until you clean it or toss it.
The mod zone gets people more into the hobbyist end, and also allows the use of quite low cost batteries -- cheap to replace. Some people then go towards wetboxes, things that include a 3 or 6 ml bottle to hold liquid, to decrease how often refills are needed.
It's all good, depends on what people like -- you break out of the one cigarette form-factor and method of use, more room for some personal expression.
Enjoy!
I started with the Kr808. I now own 901's, 510's, 801's, and I have tried Low Resistence and high voltage vaping. The Kr808 is still my favorite.
Ya know, I don't think as many of us wind up moving to mods as people think. I think the modsters here are highly communicative, and highly innovative, which makes them highly visible.
But every vaper I have personally met outside of a vaping meet still uses stock batteries, and is happy with them. Most of them don't like high voltage. Most of them don't have any desire to move to a mod. Myself included.
I think the fact that there are a lot of hobbyists here disguises the larger and quieter majority who just are happy to not be smoking and don't need "more."
I am a hobbyist to a degree. I enjoy vaping a lot. I make my own juice. But yes, I'll say it, I'm looking to simulate smoking. High voltage vaping is, well, nothing like smoking to me. It's far more intense. And I don't want that - I just want to chill and vape, like I chilled and smoked.
I want to be able to hold my e-cig between my fingers as I type, like I did when I smoked. I want those things still, even after 3 months of vaping. And based on the "average people" vapers I've met, I don't think I'm in the minority.
Ya know, I don't think as many of us wind up moving to mods as people think. I think the modsters here are highly communicative, and highly innovative, which makes them highly visible.
But every vaper I have personally met outside of a vaping meet still uses stock batteries, and is happy with them. Most of them don't like high voltage. Most of them don't have any desire to move to a mod. Myself included.
I think the fact that there are a lot of hobbyists here disguises the larger and quieter majority who just are happy to not be smoking and don't need "more."
I am a hobbyist to a degree. I enjoy vaping a lot. I make my own juice. But yes, I'll say it, I'm looking to simulate smoking. High voltage vaping is, well, nothing like smoking to me. It's far more intense. And I don't want that - I just want to chill and vape, like I chilled and smoked.
I want to be able to hold my e-cig between my fingers as I type, like I did when I smoked. I want those things still, even after 3 months of vaping. And based on the "average people" vapers I've met, I don't think I'm in the minority.
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Hotter vapor and different taste. I love fruity flavors, but only at low wattage. The heat at high wattage, kills the taste for me. Tobacco flavors, on the other hand, taste much better to me with a hotter vape at high wattage. That's why variable voltage devices are the newest rage. The ability to tune for your current juice is pretty awesome.
Apparently you have not read this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html
I see. I suppose here around Monday or Tuesday I'll get to see what it's all about... Oh, and MN, I watched your vids. Very cool. (by vids I mean all of them. lol) I used to live on E. 19th street up there when I was doing some COMM work on C-130s for the 133rd Airlift Wing. 
WAY...TOO....COLD.
WAY...TOO....COLD.
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