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My guess (and those of others) is that there are discrepancy in the parts (by production).
Even 1mm of more or less on one part can cause such leaks.
As I said, just my guess. I have 2 Odys and the small parts aren't EXACTLY the same.
Same with the ceramic parts. Just now one user in a German forum wrote, that he ordered extra ceramics, because his was broke in the original Ody, now he screwed in another ceramic "as hard as you can", as Imeo suggests - the result was that 2 of his 3 ceramics broke again.
Even 1mm of more or less on one part can cause such leaks.
As I said, just my guess. I have 2 Odys and the small parts aren't EXACTLY the same.
Same with the ceramic parts. Just now one user in a German forum wrote, that he ordered extra ceramics, because his was broke in the original Ody, now he screwed in another ceramic "as hard as you can", as Imeo suggests - the result was that 2 of his 3 ceramics broke again.
Ceramics are tricky to get the right size. You have to remember that when they are fired they shrink about 10% in size. I'm glad I am not the maker, I'm sure it's going to take a few tweaks to get them absolutely perfect. Unfortunately, some are going to break, and not be exactly right. Hopefully it will get ironed out very soon. I haven't tried my new ceramics yet, both of my originals are working so far, One does have a crack exactly like Mr. Krinkles, it works so I'm not messing with it until I have to.
Maybe Imeo and I can discuss some strategies for the ceramic maker, Other than the size issue, I think there may be a very minor methodology error that's causing the cracking. My suspicions are that this is the actual case, and the size of the ceramic isn't causing the problem. Ceramics crack for very specific reasons, and 99.9% of the time that crack is caused by an underlying defect caused either in methodology of manufacture, or in the firing process.
There are enough of these that have cracked to suggest, to me, that there is a minor error occurring in the methodology. I almost guarantee it's a simple fix too, (and I know exactly what it is)
Maybe Imeo and I can discuss some strategies for the ceramic maker, Other than the size issue, I think there may be a very minor methodology error that's causing the cracking. My suspicions are that this is the actual case, and the size of the ceramic isn't causing the problem. Ceramics crack for very specific reasons, and 99.9% of the time that crack is caused by an underlying defect caused either in methodology of manufacture, or in the firing process.
There are enough of these that have cracked to suggest, to me, that there is a minor error occurring in the methodology. I almost guarantee it's a simple fix too, (and I know exactly what it is)
Harekira, Mine doesn't need the Orings (I use nextel so the wick is much fatter.) I like your idea, and was going to use it first, however, the nifty little lip of the base, is not present on the GGTS base for Odysseus, there is no "easy" way of storing and slipping the Oring on each time. So it is "increased fiddling" to add an Oring each time I rebuild a coil. Ensuring that my wick is long enough to fully extend down both sides of the ceramic is a much simpler fix in my situation... I just cut the wick longer. Now if I was using the stock wick, yes the Orings are by far the easier solution
I believe Rick is spot on here, but concerning the ceramics I suggest that anyone having troubles fitting them into the housing should invest in a small set of files.
These can be had for fairly cheap compared to the investment already made into the Odysseus system.
You can then gingerly file the ceramic to get the perfect fit.
Forcing the ceramic in the housing when the fit is not optimal, is going to result in failure.
Square peg into round hole scenario kind of applies here.
These can be had for fairly cheap compared to the investment already made into the Odysseus system.
You can then gingerly file the ceramic to get the perfect fit.
Forcing the ceramic in the housing when the fit is not optimal, is going to result in failure.
Square peg into round hole scenario kind of applies here.
i asked this a few days ago Fright, Imeo replied that it was the correct o-ring for between ceramic metal housing and center pin. as some were sent with the incorrect o-ring originally that squished out of shape.
i too had assumed it was for 510/e2 center pin.
Been useing my ody in large mode with GG base on my stealth....and loveing it. Geting a little leaking when I first fill, haven't noticed much leaking after that. Biggest problem I have realized in this set up is the weird feeling I get knowing I have twice as much juice than battery lol
That tiny tiny little o ring is for the pin? Maby that will solve some leaking problems too. Is the a chart or pics for where o rings go?
More efficient usage of juice too, I believe.
Why different I do not know, but it's been almost 24 hours since intial filling and the level is just getting to the top of the window now.
Small mode would have required 4 to 5 fillings already to equal same, I'm sure
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I believe what everyone saying is that tiny o-ring is for the new connector pin that came with upgrade and used for atty and dripping mode.
I used mine between the metal ceramic housing and the post.
The one that came with the Ody in small mode was the wrong size.
The one that came with the Ody in small mode was the wrong size.
K3v1, that tiny o ring you put onto the pin to seal the base or between the metal housing and nut. Have u noticed a difference in leaking problems, did u have any before. I didn't think it was leaking from here but it's so hard to tell where the leak is anyway lol I think I'll wait for the chart and play around some more.
The o-ring here between the nut and base fixed all leaking for me, not had any since.
Yes Oddy, 15b is where I put the teeny tiny o-ring.
Yes Oddy, 15b is where I put the teeny tiny o-ring.
hopefully the GG wiki gets updated with the blow-up assembly illustrations of all the new modes, like the ones already there, each part labeled....and a kit listing, showing where all the parts are used... I know it took me a few minutes to segregate everything and try out the different modes, but there are going to be some that will have a hard time with it trying to get them all figured out.... hell, I was questioning what that teeny weeny o-ring was used for as I didn't see it used in the vids...now I know
More efficient usage of juice too, I believe.
Why different I do not know, but it's been almost 24 hours since intial filling and the level is just getting to the top of the window now.
Small mode would have required 4 to 5 fillings already to equal same, I'm sure
It's easy to figure out why the Ody in big mode is lasting you so long Serpent. This is the reason, so please follow along with me class.
When you had the Ody in short mode, you had it glued to your lips huffing and puffing saying things like, "Doh, it's going to take how much longer?" and "Aw come on Ody, get here already"!
Now that you have Ody in all it's glory, you've got it held out in front of you admiring it all the time. Therefore you are vaping and stressing less and admiring more.
See, I told you the explanation was easy.
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