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Rajuisha

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Guys, I have to tell you some things

1. Machine shop always do its job perfectly. There are no differences between batches and all GG constructions are always exactly the same. When you see a difference is because I ask machine shop to make it like this. Even the smallest change is made because I recheck the designs before the new batch and I make very small changes like 0,1mm where an o-ring sits etc. Of course I always check if the changes will work ok with previous batches.

2. Now, about Ody. When ana send me back the bases, I checked threads and I saw that there was no problem with them. But I forgot to check the total length of the bases. Now after ruj post I checked the length and I saw that we have 0,5mm difference. That happened because I made the base of the base 0,5mm fatter to make channels under the base a little deeper. But I forgot that the pin of Ody wouldnt fit well that way. So yes, ana was right from the begining.

As I have said a lot of times in the past, I always try to leave room for bigger or smaller o-rings to avoid issues. So the simple solution is to put a thinner o-ring under the center pin. That means that if you remove the 3x2 o-ring and put a 3x1,5 o-ring , your problem is solved.

Ana, I am really sorry that I didnt manage to see the problem on your bases at once.

Mistakes happen Imeo, don't worry about it too much. Just feeling sorry for Ana having to go thru the frustration. At least she can rest now lol.

Will this be a problem Imeo when the pre order for all GG specially the old GG's are taken. People who need spares might end up with different sized parts to original which will end up causing a lot of problems.
I think you should keep all the parts to original dimensions for the big pre order otherwise you will have a lot of headaches and ourselfs too :)

Remember buddy, if you change one part, you have to look at all the other joining parts and change them too ;)
 

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Can't seem to find that size orings on the uk ebay site. Most probably I don't have a clue if I'm looking at the correct one or not. Found one which is 3mm id x 6mm od but doesn't state if it's 1.5mm c/s. I'm guessing that is the correct one.

Sorry lol but I get confused easily. Thanks Ana for the link
 

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It really is much more than that .5 Even with both orings used for the reg size it it STILL hard to screw it down. Yes it can be done. BUT it is work to do it. My hands are shredded every time I use that base.

Then comes taking it out to clean, its so much work that the center pin get loose and the positive wire gets snapped off unless I take a screwdriver and losen it up from the bottom of the center pin.

Just because it can be done, its not worth it to me , I cant handle the pain in my hands, the cuts on my fingers etc. When all my other 4 bases are smooth as butter. The center pin to work with this base would have to be about 2 or 3 mm longer. Maybe the Ithaka base center pin works on these deeper bases.

If someone has an extra Ithaka center pin with the adjustable pin wants to send me one :)
 

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raj, because I dont want people to have wrong impressions. When you say its difficult to screw rebuildable part in place, you mean that rebuildable part goes very well until o-ring meets the base and then its hard to screw it, yes?
Thanks for the better pics xtreme.

I don't have any small orings and no idea where to get them from. Probably will try ebay lol.
But as Ana said, even with small orings, it's still difficult to screw it in. Not sure if small oring will do the job but will give it a go
 

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I think the lesson here is that if one person is experiencing a problem, it's still a problem. I'm sorry. I'm glad that problems like these are not "widespread". But I don't think it's fair to have someone beat their head against the wall trying to solve a problem. I'm thrilled to have my problem solved. It took some expense and I was made whole by Imeo. And I appreciate that completely. I also am in love with the "old school" odysseus. Still even more so than the Ithaka. But I see the need to evolve.

I am in support of a "Peneloprize" as well. There was a LOT of frustration involved.
 

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raj, because I dont want people to have wrong impressions. When you say its difficult to screw rebuildable part in place, you mean that rebuildable part goes very well until o-ring meets the base and then its hard to screw it, yes?

That's correct Imeo. Even if you get a smaller/thinner oring it still wouldn't solve the problem in my opinion. You will have to make the centre pin longer or even make it like Ithaka's adjustable pin.
However, I will try different orings and see if it solves the problem

Thanks everyone for the links you have provided.
 

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Thanks for all the o-ring links! I'm also confused about sizing, especially for the smallest one for the center pin. The wiki appears to show them by ID and thickness, with the smallest being 1.78x1.78 (actually the thickest), but I'm not clear which one would work from oringsUSA. Their sizing diagram isn't terribly clear to me. Which size should I get for the 1.78x1.78? Sorry if I'm being obtuse.
 

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Thanks for all the o-ring links! I'm also confused about sizing, especially for the smallest one for the center pin. The wiki appears to show them by ID and thickness, with the smallest being 1.78x1.78 (actually the thickest), but I'm not clear which one would work from oringsUSA. Their sizing diagram isn't terribly clear to me. Which size should I get for the 1.78x1.78? Sorry if I'm being obtuse.

I tend to go with 1.8 x 1.8 O-rings for that one
 
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