Odysseus official

[imeothanasis]

Welcome to our company Jop my friend
Ithaka is a heavily improved Ody, so it will replace Ody as justin said. Its a dual coil atomizer that can be used as a single coil too with many other improvements. It will be ready in March

 

[Vaporologist]

Have I told you lately...?

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Just spent the last few hours experimenting with coils....five set-ups later a great vape.

 

[imeothanasis]

No you havent told lately Vapor but we all know what you want to say ahahaha

Have I told you lately...?

 

[imeothanasis]

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Just spent the last few hours experimenting with coils....five set-ups later a great vape.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

I'm still having issues--I don't know if it is the coil, or general conductivity. I am using a 1" triple twist 32g kanthal coil which gives me just under 2 wraps around a 3.5mm wick. It in theory should be steaming hot and crazy, but it isn't. I can get a warm vape if I prime the button before drawing on the mouthpiece, but shouldn't this combo give me heat and vapor rather quick? Any longer on the coil and the vapor is there but NO heat (i mean anything more than 1" long triple-twist 32g is weak).

Any thoughts? I cleaned and lubed the TS tubes...I just cannot figure it out.

HALP!

 

[imeothanasis]

What are the ohms of the wire Sneak?

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Sadly, no idea. (No ohm meter). But based on the visuals Bish and others have shown, it should be a sub 1ohm coil. It is short--I mean SHORT. Barely 1.75 wraps around the wick. Visually it should be around .7 ohm, but it is not hot and vapor is just decent. I've been pouring over all the twist videos and threads trying to determine what could be the issue.

Is it possible that because my internals are all steel (not brass) that I'm not using the power of the battery to its fullest?

 

[bearded]

I did a quick calculation:
32 AWG = 0.2mm
0,2mm Kanthal -> 42,79 ohm per meter
triple twist 0,2mm Kanthal -> 14,26 ohm per meter

divided by 40 -> 0,35 ohm per 2,5cm/1inch

This is not longer low resistance, it is ultra low resistance or maybe makro resistance.

 

[kwalka]

I did a quick calculation:
32 AWG = 0.2mm
0,2mm Kanthal -> 42,79 ohm per meter
triple twist 0,2mm Kanthal -> 14,26 ohm per meter

divided by 40 -> 0,35 ohm per 2,5cm/1inch

This is not longer low resistance, it is ultra low resistance or maybe makro resistance.

And definitely not safe to be doing without a meter to check stability.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Well, it vapes like my 1.4 ohm AVA from Innovapor--decent, but not at all that hot or vaporicious. I've tried using almost 2" of the same coil, and it flat out sucks. I'm thinking that there is another factor causing the coil to not be nice and hot.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

This is all using AW IMR 18650s and 18350s.

 

[bearded]

Oh yes, i did some more calculations and: you need 12 Ampere to run this coil. Or more exactly, this coil is drawing 12 Ampere out of your battery.

 

[bearded]

With round about 2" you are at .7 ohm. The factor now is, with tripleAWG32 you have nearly a solid bar. You need more than the 4.1 volts of a single fresh charged battery.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

So I'm taxing the battery to the point that it is not evenly discharging--thus crap coil performance? So I should try around 2" and the draw will be "optimized"?

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

There has to be something going on with the GGTS itself...I'm making a triple 32g 2" coil now and will see how it does. In the past, it was a weak and cold vape. But the math doesn't lie--.7 ohms using 3 32g twisted to 2".

 

[kwalka]

There is no way to say what is what without metering the coil and the device. This is a total shot in the dark. Just saying...

 

[bearded]

What i meant was, you need more volt than 4.1. For example with a vv mod or by stacking batteries.

 

[imeothanasis]

A VV mod cant work with a wire like this, its too low beard

sneaker, 3 32 awg coils twisted are a very very low wire. Keep in mind that not only the amount of resistance matters but also the width of the wire. If for example I want to fire a 1,5 ohm and 0,5mm fat wire I need much more current to fire it properly than a 0,16 mm fat wire at 1,5 ohm too. So GGTS is fine, no worries about that

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Been using the 2" triple now in between tattoos....it sucks. No heat, low vapor.

It feels like I'm using a 3.5 ohm atty on a 3.7v battery--It is terrible. Maybe I'm just used to really high watts? I used to push 2.5 ohm atties on 7.4v all day. Once I got the ODY, I've always used less than three wraps. I've been using the twisted 2/3 wire method for about a month or so, and never really had a problem other than the super low wrap count. I'm kinda stumped--saving for an ohm meter as we speak.