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Hey guys. Got my HH 357 yesterday and after some experimenting I have it hitting nicely. Plumes of vapor! I tell you what though the dry hits you can get from this thing are like nothing I've experienced from any other atomizer. I take a little puff to "test" before going for a full hit. One thing I'm noticing is that the HH seems to give me a LOT more nicotine than anything I've ever used. I have never even felt a nic buzz since I've been vaping, and I chain vape like a fiend. I am going to have to lower my nic to continue to chain vape! Not a bad problem to have I guess. Got the black matte 2.5 ohm long barrel on my ProVari, with some strawberry freeze from VaporCast = bliss. Can't get over these vapor plumes!! Thanks Cisco and Hanna!
Yeah, the first time I had my HH, I was getting the same thing. The atomizer is just so much more efficient that it delivers the nicotine better.
What do you mean by the dry hit? To me, the dry hit(if I ever get one, I always do a dry pull first, and if I don't get that slight gurgle I re-drip) is just like flavorless, but not scratchy and nasty like any other atty.
So I had a first today- my HH leaked! I might have missed the atty when dripping, or overfilled it, but it was the first time it ever leaked even a single speck. Seems fine now though.... hmmmm.
Yeah I take a dry pull too. Sometimes even if there's a gurgle I still get a dry throat hit. After I do my initial 6 drops the hits are huge and great. But, I'm finding when I go to re-drip and take a puff it's just not a great hit unless I'm constantly doing a couple little dry puffs before vaping. Probably my pull speed or something that is surely user error. I'm still experimenting and any tips would be greatly appreciated.
I don't understand you very well... do you mean by "dry hit"... that it's hot but burning up little if any juice in the atty? (that's what dry hit means and it will pop your coil sooner than later).
Yes imo the 357 with venturi effect design requires pulling the juice into the coil from the filling i think, as well as getting the vapor production going.... I really don't understand it myself, and they tend to be a bit finnicky imo, but the flavor is so good and satisfying, I'm hooked on them pretty much.
Yes imo the 357 with venturi effect design requires pulling the juice into the coil from the filling i think, as well as getting the vapor production going.... I really don't understand it myself, and they tend to be a bit finnicky imo, but the flavor is so good and satisfying, I'm hooked on them pretty much.
Definitely.... for me they last about a month and that's better than when i first started with these (1 or 2 weeks)... I'm bad on them though... chain vape, longs slow pulls, and often get dry hits because I hate over feeding.
Some get months and months.... just try to keep it wet (the trick is keeping wet but not overfed for best vapes).
Since this is the Avid thread I'll mention that i really like their massed produced (i assume) Hybrid Aero attys too. They have the same coil design as the 357, cost half, and are really consistent and easier to vape imo. The flavor isn't quite as good but better than most.
I agree, the Aero's are nice also. I was using one in a Pipe at VaperCon last year when I purchased the Pipe.
If you keep the maintenance going and make sure you always keep it wet, it should last a long time. I have one that has lasted a year. I am going to send it in to Hanna to have him rebuild it, only because it is just now starting to lose its ability to keep flavor going. It is pretty dark in the coil area and I am sure it is just because it has lasted so long.
If you keep the maintenance going and make sure you always keep it wet, it should last a long time. I have one that has lasted a year. I am going to send it in to Hanna to have him rebuild it, only because it is just now starting to lose its ability to keep flavor going. It is pretty dark in the coil area and I am sure it is just because it has lasted so long.
No not dry hit like it's empty because I know there's juice in there since I just dripped. And the flavor is great when I can get it to hit right. I can feel when I hit that "sweet" spot in my draw speed/fill level and the juice is flowing over the coil perfectly, but after the initial fill and I go to refill with no matter how many drops I've tried 1,2,3,4,5,6, it usually takes a couple of little puffs without inhale to get it flowing right. Otherwise I get what I called a dry hit but I probably should have said extremely scratchy and unpleasant TH. It's not dry in the sense that I taste that nasty burnt/empty atty taste where I'm in danger of popping a coil, but just dry and scratchy in the sense I taste the juice, but the TH is harsh, scratchy, and extremely unpleasant. I'm getting better though I guess practice makes perfect! Only had it 3 days and trying to be careful and let it cool down between vapes, not get too hot, and to keep juice in there. I'm just having problems after that initial fill after blowing it out.
With almost all the 357's I have, after cleaning, I have to put about 10 drops in. Drops with a non-child proof 6ml bottle. Not all drops are the same. I take about 3 inhales then I continue on with 3 drips in between puffs.
The nasty throat hit vape on a 357 is essentially telling you waited too long and took one puff to many before dripping, and yes, it does hurt, lol.
If it is doing this right after dripping, maybe it has not made its way to the coil due to your drip tip. I do not know what kind you are using.
The nasty throat hit vape on a 357 is essentially telling you waited too long and took one puff to many before dripping, and yes, it does hurt, lol.
If it is doing this right after dripping, maybe it has not made its way to the coil due to your drip tip. I do not know what kind you are using.
Thanks for the tip Skyway. I use those childproof bottles too. From what you described it sounds like I'm not putting in enough drops initially, but more importantly not putting in frequently enough on the refill. I remove my drip tip when dripping so I know it's going down in there. Glad somebody else knows what I mean about the harsh TH vape it's still quite shocking to me!!
I'm going to try your fill method tonight when I get home and see how it goes. Thanks again.
Hey uke, did I see you in a vmod thread? I got one from the classies, a vmod xl, and am just starting to mess with it now. I have my 1.5ohm long barrel HH on it, and it vapes ok, but not enough power! I guess I'm spoiled with the HH and provari combo, cuz the AW IMR isn't enough to give me a great vape. Which aero attys are the ones you like? The 510s? Bridgeless? Thanks
Yeah Aero used to come in 1.5 only, which is great. It a hybrid like the 357 shortie; which i believe is like a 306 in a 510 body; sort of as the ceramic and coil are like the 357.
I got myself an HH.357 510 for use with my Provari and 18650 AW IMR. Gonna wait for my juice then get started using this thing after asking a few questions here. Never used one before, and all I know about it is what Hannah's videos tell me.
Can anyone kinda send me through their technique and give me any tips / tricks they may have? I've been getting some poor flavor with almost everything I use- carto tanks, novas, boges, even my atomizer has seen a decrease in flavor. Not sure really what I'm doing wrong. The juices I have bought start out tasting really good, but now everything is almost unvapable and gross. Which is why I spent $25 on a 357. Hoping it can help me out.
TIA
Can anyone kinda send me through their technique and give me any tips / tricks they may have? I've been getting some poor flavor with almost everything I use- carto tanks, novas, boges, even my atomizer has seen a decrease in flavor. Not sure really what I'm doing wrong. The juices I have bought start out tasting really good, but now everything is almost unvapable and gross. Which is why I spent $25 on a 357. Hoping it can help me out.
TIA
I"ve seen you around the other posts FullFlavoredKindofGuy, and I like your attitude about taking vaping seriously. I do, but I knew it as soon as I took my first vape (on what was rip off Greensmoke kit... it worked pretty good, but for an hour of vaping, and I had to wait 4-5 hours for the dinky batt to charge...it was a flavored carto deal ). Since then I got into dripping because it tasted even better. I've tried lots of stuff, just about all there is, and I think HH357 is just about as good as it gets. You'll find many vets that agree.
I have 8 new HH357's in my drawer, and about 9 or 10 have bit the dust. Lots of money yep but I figure, if I was hurting for $, I could get all I need from a LR 1.5 Ohm 357 and an eGo batt. They last me about a month at the most and I chain vape hard.
It's the only way I know how to get what I want from a vape. Too often I get dry vapes and i think that's why I can kill one in a couple weeks if I only vaped one PV at a time.
People say to get the most life out of them, keep them wet. Since I can only get good vapes if they aren't overfed, I usually run them down dry before re-dripping and the only way I know they need re-dripping is if they are dry... go figure.
That''s how i did it with my conventional atomizers before I found the HH357 and they lasted 2 weeks too. I would buy them in bulk.
I have about 4 PV's working with different atomizers and at least one HH357 going.
I up an quit all conventional atomizers because although I got great vapor, the flavor was nill. That much vaping every day (probably about 5 mil a day easy) your taste buds get numb, but when i found the 357, the flavor still comes through.
The other gear that works for me is a good RBA, but you got to know how to work those really good and that takes me a lot of time and learning. I am enjoying a Fatty V2 right now and have a ZAP in the mail... I don't like airy draw but will try it since the vid shows how to get the coil / wick just right and that's the key to RBA's imo.... I've sold my Ody/iatty, Genesis' when I first tried the HH357's but since have learned it's because I didn't know enough about how to make the coil right
Avidvaper also sells a "hybrid" atomizer; the Aero... it is designed like the HH357 as far as I can tell by looking at the coil/wick/filler, and it vapes great. It's the closest to the 357 that any mass produced atomizer has come imo, and ( a big AND) it is more consistently easy to get great vapor. The problem I have with my 357's aside from killing them is I get good vapor about 60% of the time; the instructions on how to vape the 357 are as close as you can get to making it vape right. I suppose. I just do it my way; long draws, but I think you are supposed to so short pulls. I don't have any problems with the Aero.
Good luck
I have 8 new HH357's in my drawer, and about 9 or 10 have bit the dust. Lots of money yep but I figure, if I was hurting for $, I could get all I need from a LR 1.5 Ohm 357 and an eGo batt. They last me about a month at the most and I chain vape hard.
It's the only way I know how to get what I want from a vape. Too often I get dry vapes and i think that's why I can kill one in a couple weeks if I only vaped one PV at a time.
People say to get the most life out of them, keep them wet. Since I can only get good vapes if they aren't overfed, I usually run them down dry before re-dripping and the only way I know they need re-dripping is if they are dry... go figure.
That''s how i did it with my conventional atomizers before I found the HH357 and they lasted 2 weeks too. I would buy them in bulk.
I have about 4 PV's working with different atomizers and at least one HH357 going.
I up an quit all conventional atomizers because although I got great vapor, the flavor was nill. That much vaping every day (probably about 5 mil a day easy) your taste buds get numb, but when i found the 357, the flavor still comes through.
The other gear that works for me is a good RBA, but you got to know how to work those really good and that takes me a lot of time and learning. I am enjoying a Fatty V2 right now and have a ZAP in the mail... I don't like airy draw but will try it since the vid shows how to get the coil / wick just right and that's the key to RBA's imo.... I've sold my Ody/iatty, Genesis' when I first tried the HH357's but since have learned it's because I didn't know enough about how to make the coil right
Avidvaper also sells a "hybrid" atomizer; the Aero... it is designed like the HH357 as far as I can tell by looking at the coil/wick/filler, and it vapes great. It's the closest to the 357 that any mass produced atomizer has come imo, and ( a big AND) it is more consistently easy to get great vapor. The problem I have with my 357's aside from killing them is I get good vapor about 60% of the time; the instructions on how to vape the 357 are as close as you can get to making it vape right. I suppose. I just do it my way; long draws, but I think you are supposed to so short pulls. I don't have any problems with the Aero.
Good luck
Yea, the .357 will be great. Just make sure you follow Hanna's instructions. I always take a dry pull before I vape it, and if I don't hear/feel that slight gurgle, then make sure you re-drip. I think that is why uke kills his so fast, cuz he lets them get too dry lol. I have one going on 2 months now and its still great. Blow it out every few days, and make sure you do it from the threaded end. You will have to experiment with the draw speed, but it is a quicker, faster pull. You are actually activating a vacuum like action when you pull on it that pulls juice onto the coil. Just have some patience with them at first, start at a lower voltage, but after a week or two when you get to know it, crank it up to 11 or 12 watts and vape your face off! That's what I do, anyway lol.
I haven't used the 357 yet. Still hesitant, plus I'm waiting on my juice to steep. There's a specific juice I want to drip in it and I'm not making any compromises lol. I'll definitely be back to this thread though.
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