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Mongo, I only run a 1 ohm horizontal on a 3/32 bit in my Veritas made one of these to get it in place. It works great! I can knock out a coil in a couple minutes including placement.
Maybe there is a picture missing? You spoke of a tool for placement?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=384072&d=1414201995
Anyways this gives me an idea, maybe you can just make some holes into a folded or glued cardbox to hold the mandril fixed until you have secured the bloody coil? Just fold some cardboard 2 times around the base of the atty, make a hole for the 510, two holes for the mandril to hold in horizontal.
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No but you could make some with a rolling mill. I was just going to get into that on Kanthal and then the 40 came out. Now I don't think I could get enough turns with flat Ni200.
Just got this video linked about a Basic Ni200 micro coil build for DNA40 Devices by basilray. Not sure if this was already linked but I haven't seen it yet. He explains stuff very nice.
Nice video from Basil... explains a lot of what we've been talking about.... how this dna40 functions in operation.
I really like Temp Protection.
But yeah, now we're glowing our coils? oh kayyyyyy... why not? Well we were told not to torch Ni200.
I can see it helps to burn off the impurities but is it safe?
One thing I've noticed wrapping Ni wire is that it doesn't spring back as much as Kanthal... it seems to hold its shape IF you treat it carefully; its malleable at least when wrapping on a mandrel or bit.
I really like Temp Protection.
But yeah, now we're glowing our coils? oh kayyyyyy... why not? Well we were told not to torch Ni200.
I can see it helps to burn off the impurities but is it safe?
One thing I've noticed wrapping Ni wire is that it doesn't spring back as much as Kanthal... it seems to hold its shape IF you treat it carefully; its malleable at least when wrapping on a mandrel or bit.
Thanks. Nice presentation. He turns TC off and then fires the coil till its red to reshape. Only problem is after this the coil needs to cool to room temp before use and I doubt I have the patience for that. /lol
Here is Phils vid and he uses Ni200 + the Flask. It's a review of the Squape Reloaded and an interesting comparison between the two. I personally favor Phils method but I'm really not 100% sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_6vSEMpcI
Let's face it folks we are the lab rats here. You say space the coils I say don't soace the coils, someone says heat the coils, someone else says don't do it, make your coils banana shaped, other one says make them look like a dolphin, next will say use titanium wire.
I was so annoyed last night I actually build a coils with wire overlapping just to see what will happen and it wasn't pretty lol.
Not sure if this is the way to go. Do we know if heating up a nickel coil is ok? I thought it wasn't but of course it would make life a bit easier.
Why can't we just have wire that functions like 26-28g kanthal that's easy to work with and 8wraps get you into the perfect ohm range. No, we have to make it complicated and use angel hair nickel wire.
I was so annoyed last night I actually build a coils with wire overlapping just to see what will happen and it wasn't pretty lol.
Not sure if this is the way to go. Do we know if heating up a nickel coil is ok? I thought it wasn't but of course it would make life a bit easier.
Why can't we just have wire that functions like 26-28g kanthal that's easy to work with and 8wraps get you into the perfect ohm range. No, we have to make it complicated and use angel hair nickel wire.
That's definitely on my list of things to try once I get back to PA where I have access to an FLIR camera.
Thanks. Nice presentation. He turns TC off and then fires the coil till its red to reshape. Only problem is after this the coil needs to cool to room temp before use and I doubt I have the patience for that. /lol
It doesn't take that long. You actually just have to dip the coil in room tempered water or cool it down with some e-juice.
I think best "safe" practice is still not glowing your coil. I don't think that any nickel fumes will be created until you hit the boiling point (4946 °F (2730 °C)) but it probably is just useless. Or make your wire even softer and harder to work with. The video is great but I doubt basilray knows "best practice" yet either. Do what works for you, experiment and report back here
Hopefully the nickel is rather something like 99.99% nickel. And any machine oil you could just wipe off with a paper towel in acetone. Would actually be great if we could buy a "cleaned" nickel wire or have some info on the manufacturing process / if there is any residue or lubricant on the wire. Maybe there is some "medical grade" nickel wire? Here is some info from temco's website:
Nickel 200 Guide
http://attachments.temcoindustrialpower.com/Data_sheet/nickel200_data_sheet.pdf
Hopefully the nickel is rather something like 99.99% nickel. And any machine oil you could just wipe off with a paper towel in acetone. Would actually be great if we could buy a "cleaned" nickel wire or have some info on the manufacturing process / if there is any residue or lubricant on the wire. Maybe there is some "medical grade" nickel wire? Here is some info from temco's website:
Nickel 200 Guide
temco said:
http://attachments.temcoindustrialpower.com/Data_sheet/nickel200_data_sheet.pdf
I hope you don't mind my suggestion to you
NO offence intended. To get started with Ni200 why not grab your wicking material and then wrap the Ni200 around same. Forget the jig and all the various contortions. No need IMHO to obsess about the beauty contest of your coil to get started. Then install your completed build on your delivery device and complete and vape.HTH
I wrote Brandon an email as he asked for an update after our conversation. Told him I am even more confused and that I think it's time to post a video before we blow ourselves up. I honestly think it's needed to have a video out from any manufacturer so customers know what they have to do.
I was excited the first day, motivated the second, frustrated the third, and now I am simply confused.
Also, not saying Basil is wrong but I think its quite foolish of him to post a video like that if he isn't 100% sure of what he is doing is correct in regards to heating up his nickel wire.
I was excited the first day, motivated the second, frustrated the third, and now I am simply confused.
Also, not saying Basil is wrong but I think its quite foolish of him to post a video like that if he isn't 100% sure of what he is doing is correct in regards to heating up his nickel wire.
Trust me, any help, suggestions, advice, is fully appreciated. That's what we are doing here right? helping out each other and posting our experiences.
How do I get to anything above 0.20ohm with a 28-32g nickel wire without making it half a mile long? How many wraps? how big are the gaps? I never really had to do regular coil building and probably suck at it with my huge sausage fingers. Just a bit frustrated and hungover.
How do I get to anything above 0.20ohm with a 28-32g nickel wire without making it half a mile long? How many wraps? how big are the gaps? I never really had to do regular coil building and probably suck at it with my huge sausage fingers. Just a bit frustrated and hungover.
I hope you don't mind my suggestion to you
HTH
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Well it seems to works for basilray to heat his coil and get a good vape, so I think the video is great for providing and demonstrating many of the basics.
He also mentioned the "temperature control group" on facebook. Anyone has facebook and checked it out?
About the confusion, it's possible that evolv put quite a lot of effort into briefing the beta testers, and somehow hoped that the beta testers would share more of their best practices or gathered knowledge. Some have certainly shared kindly but it's just going to take time to find things that work for you. Welcome to the frontier, the bleeding edge of innovation haha.
And then there are guys like me who don't know much, question everything and generally just like to spread terror and confusion
He also mentioned the "temperature control group" on facebook. Anyone has facebook and checked it out?
About the confusion, it's possible that evolv put quite a lot of effort into briefing the beta testers, and somehow hoped that the beta testers would share more of their best practices or gathered knowledge. Some have certainly shared kindly but it's just going to take time to find things that work for you. Welcome to the frontier, the bleeding edge of innovation haha.
And then there are guys like me who don't know much, question everything and generally just like to spread terror and confusion
I have a question about the wire for build coil on DNA 40. I understand that in order to benefit from temperature control, i must use Ni200.
I search on Europe store, but not find it. But i find Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance with is in Non Resistance Wire category.
So, Ni200 is the same as Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance?
Can I use Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance instead of Ni200?
I search on Europe store, but not find it. But i find Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance with is in Non Resistance Wire category.
So, Ni200 is the same as Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance?
Can I use Nickel Wire or Pure Nickel (99.5 %) - no resistance instead of Ni200?
hahaha!!!
In regards to the heating of the coil sure it's great as it makes things WAY easier in regards to shaping the coil but we have been told not to do it and I don't even know what's right anymore.
Comments like "do what works best for you" is not the point. Currently my coil setup is fantastic but I still don't know if I get the full power and optimum quality of the board and I just would like to know if I actually do.
And then there are guys like me who don't know much, question everything and generally just like to spread terror and confusion
In regards to the heating of the coil sure it's great as it makes things WAY easier in regards to shaping the coil but we have been told not to do it and I don't even know what's right anymore.
Comments like "do what works best for you" is not the point. Currently my coil setup is fantastic but I still don't know if I get the full power and optimum quality of the board and I just would like to know if I actually do.
Yes it should work. Nickel is nickel. I ordered mine from zivipf.de and any >99% nickel wire should work just as well. See a few posts up for some info on the NI200 but it's just nickel with a guaranteed >99% purity and the possibility for certain impurities. There might be differences in what kind of impurities and if there is still lubricant or something on the wire of course, but you could clean that off.
PS: In regards to the heating of the coil, I really don't see an advantage. the nickel is already SO EASY to shape, at least the AWG30 that I use. I'd rather have it harder (tempered? Does it exist?) and form it once on the coil jig instead of fiddling with it. If you want the wire "clean" wipe it down with a acetone / ethanol soaked paper towel.
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I just found a group with 10 ish people all with the name Ahmed without any info and they are all from Egypt. .
Well it seems to works for basilray to heat his coil and get a good vape, so I think the video is great for providing and demonstrating many of the basics.
He also mentioned the "temperature control group" on facebook. Anyone has facebook and checked it out?
About the confusion, it's possible that evolv put quite a lot of effort into briefing the beta testers, and somehow hoped that the beta testers would share more of their best practices or gathered knowledge. Some have certainly shared kindly but it's just going to take time to find things that work for you. Welcome to the frontier, the bleeding edge of innovation haha.
And then there are guys like me who don't know much, question everything and generally just like to spread terror and confusion
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