Official ProVari Radius Thread - Part 2

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Well, I installed 40cc on the White Queen, and popped a nautilus on that PV included with my order. I'm using the coil installed at the factory that I thought was 1.6, but which registers at 1.7 ohms (figures). I followed the chart's instruction to select coil type "G" for a 1.6 BVC on the Nauti, and experimented with the levels. 7 is a bit warm and meh, 5 is less warm but still meh. Reached for the v20 Black King with the Lon. :shrugs: Better flavor from a 'Buki, maybe?? I'd be more excited if I could try this on an rba with SS wire.
 
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Well, I installed 40cc on the White Queen, and popped a nautilus on that PV included with my order. I'm using the coil installed at the factory that I thought was 1.6, but which registers at 1.7 ohms (figures). I followed the chart's instruction to select coil type "G" for a 1.6 BVC on the Nauti, and experimented on the levels. 7 is a bit warm and meh, 5 is less warm but still meh. Reached for the v20 Black King with the Lon. :shrugs:
So that's a no-go on coil control for you or do you need to play with it some more?
 

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So that's a no-go on coil control for you or do you need to play with it some more?
Really, I'm not liking the flavor so far. Slightly better flavor at lower levels, but the vape quality suffers. I want to hear if I can try this on a Lon with SS.
 

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Coil control? ... gonna have to pass on this.

Was seriously hoping it was a pending lawsuit.


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Same here. :)

TC bores me. I like nichome, SS and kanthal and I like simple. Wattage/voltage is all I bother with and can't see that changing. I doubt I will update my Radius unless there are other improvements other than "coil control".
 
Same here. :)

TC bores me. I like nichome, SS and kanthal and I like simple. Wattage/voltage is all I bother with and can't see that changing. I doubt I will update my Radius unless there are other improvements other than "coil control".

There is also a new version 26 software, the bug where the battery was not fully charged is addressed, and some other fixes.


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Same here. :)

TC bores me. I like nichome, SS and kanthal and I like simple. Wattage/voltage is all I bother with and can't see that changing. I doubt I will update my Radius unless there are other improvements other than "coil control".
I've gone off temp control lately using kanthal nichrome and stainless builds in wattage mode.

I just saw the update for coil control and decided to give it a shot. First off this is not like temp control in other devices. It doesn't eek every last drop out of the coil. So far for me it's cutting power when the coil is even remotely dry. So you dorm get that weak anemic lead in. It also doesn't vape he same as other temp setups at full saturation. It's much more like wattage mode. It's worth trying though it is cumbersome for buikt setups to find the right settings. That said once found you won't have to redo it over and over. I understand why they call it coil control, it isn't temp control really. It doesn't vape like it either. So far the saturated vape is better than I get on most temp control devices and the semi saturated shut off works better. I'd rather an all or nothing than varying levels of weak

. I'd like to know what the alphanumeric values are. Are they different TCR curves and resistance settings ? That may help narrow down a better staring pony to avoid some of the time consuming trial and error for new builds. Have they released that info ?


Has anyone started accumulating builds correlated with coil control settings ?

Im using an 8 wrap / 2.5mm id / nichrome 80 foil that comes to around one ohm. The setting of e5 seems to be the sweet spot.[/QUOTE]
 
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Coil control? ... gonna have to pass on this.

Was seriously hoping it was a pending lawsuit.


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Willy Dude get outta my head!!! :shock:
I was also hoping the *big reveal* would be something positive related to crushing the FDA!
What I am seeing instead of "get out & fight" is vendors/manufacturers coming out with new mods & or features that don't mean :censored: in the grand scheme of things!
 

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Willy Dude get outta my head!!! :shock:
I was also hoping the *big reveal* would be something positive related to crushing the FDA!
What I am seeing instead of "get out & fight" is vendors/manufacturers coming out with new mods & or features that don't mean :censored: in the grand scheme of things!

Without overwhelming support from citizens vendors have no chance. If the vendors would stop making setups that blow storm clouds that would be a positive step toward repealing laws that came about from moronic sceners trying to out do each other with wheeled generators and
.00000001 builds consuming 15 ml of liquid per storm cloud vaped inside elevators with infants.

Activism has to start with consumers. So vendors can join in and their lawsuits carry more public opinion support. While public opinion is uniformed and biased against ecigs lawsuits sand much less chance of success , proclamations of impartiality aside.


I was told that the hotel I'm in is non smoking and I couldn't "smoke that digital cigarette either" without risking a big fine. I tried to explain its nothing like a cigarette nor is it smoking but they said it's exactly the same and it makes the room smell bad like cigarettes.

This is john q public's opinion. Until we convince them otherwise and counteract the scaremongers paid by big tobacco he public won't realize they're being played and puppeteers in the big tobacco office have well intentioned soccer moms dancing a jig that returns the money and power to the addictive cancer stick of last year.
 

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I'm stunned how well coil control is working with a nichrome 80 build. My other temp control mods suck with this wire. It's working like an absolute champ inside a taifun gt2 (authentic - can't vouch for the clones working as well)

I had no idea there had been updates so I'm quite chuffed with this. For those rolling eyes and resisting because if a belief all temp control stinks. Do yourself s favour and try jt. It's quite different t than the m class. Dna200 Etc. it is a pain to find the right setting but surely we can make a shared Google doc with web fork submission to chart settings and builds.


I'd there's interest j can create one and get jt going? I may do it if only for my personal use.

Who would be in for that?


** heads up. When you're adjusting to test you have to wait for the tank to return to room temperature if changing the alpha value of the coil control settings. Failure to do so (changing directly after vaping) will give far different results and won't taste good or vape well. The instructions from provape say to place he tank on and go through the process they don't specify that you must wait when hanging alpha value. I believe this is an error in documentation, not the result of the coil being set properly. If I had to guess id say the resistance of the coil is read every time the alpha value is set - it doesn't carry across alpha settings without change. I'll reach out and confirm this bt if you had bad results try starting with a7 as specified but before proceeding to b,c,d etc wait 2-3 mins i don't believe you need to wait when changing the numeric value or intensity, which seems to control power not wire curve.

I may be wrong and I'll reach out to confirm but this is my observation so far. Anyone else have a similar one, different one ?
 
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Really happy to hear you can use other than prebuilt coils in cc mode. My results were abysmal with a Nauti, and that's a tank I'm neither experienced with nor overly excited about. I'm planning on loaning mine out to family and friends.

I also have zero experience with TC. I don't even know if mesh-wicked gennies are good candidates for TC! If anyone has guidance on that, I'd much appreciate it.
 
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I'm stunned how well coil control is working with a nichrome 80 build. My other temp control mods suck with this wire. It's working like an absolute champ inside a taifun gt2 (authentic - can't vouch for the clones working as well)

I had no idea there had been updates so I'm quite chuffed with this. For those rolling eyes and resisting because if a belief all temp control stinks. Do yourself s favour and try jt. It's quite different t than the m class. Dna200 Etc. it is a pain to find the right setting but surely we can make a shared Google doc with web fork submission to chart settings and builds.


I'd there's interest j can create one and get jt going? I may do it if only for my personal use.

Who would be in for that?


** heads up. When you're adjusting to test you have to wait for the tank to return to room temperature if changing the alpha value of the coil control settings. Failure to do so (changing directly after vaping) will give far different results and won't taste good or vape well. The instructions from provape say to place he tank on and go through the process they don't specify that you must wait when hanging alpha value. I believe this is an error in documentation, not the result of the coil being set properly. If I had to guess id say the resistance of the coil is read every time the alpha value is set - it doesn't carry across alpha settings without change. I'll reach out and confirm this bt if you had bad results try starting with a7 as specified but before proceeding to b,c,d etc wait 2-3 mins i don't believe you need to wait when changing the numeric value or intensity, which seems to control power not wire curve.

I may be wrong and I'll reach out to confirm but this is my observation so far. Anyone else have a similar one, different one ?
I'm really feeling intimidated at the thought of choosing a different alpha setting for a Nauti. I know, I know... bwak, bwak. :(
 
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I'm really feeling intimidated at the thought of choosing a different alpha setting for a Nauti. I know, I know... bwak, bwak. :(

Do you need to ? Which coils are you using ? In surprised they haven't specified the settings for the triton mini nickel coils which work inside the nautilus.

It certainly is arduous to deduce the proper settings for a given coil. However it works very well for me after going through the process. Worth the effort.


With a premade coil definitely small increments. With the build ones I jumped in blocks of three to speed things up. It doesn't seem the alpha changes correspond to sequential coil values. It doesn't seem linear.

I've asked them s couple questions via Twitter. I'll
Call If they haven't responded there by Friday.

Really happy to hear you can use other than prebuilt coils in cc mode. My results were abysmal with a Nauti, and that's a tank I'm neither experienced with nor overly excited about. I'm planning on loaning mine out to family and friends.

I also have zero experience with TC. I don't even know if mesh-wicked gennies are good candidates for TC! If anyone has guidance on that, I'd much appreciate it.

Good question. I wonder if once torched it would affect the resistance . I don't think so. I've only used mesh in wattage. But logically I don't see why it Would be an issue. You may want to use nickel wire which would ensure the least resistance was the wire so no weirdness in shorting or resistance fluctuation

Temp control can take a short while to get right. My biggest complaint with the DNA and yihi and joy tech devices are the vape is more anemic and loses density. That doesn't seem to be an issue with the coil control though it may touch the cotton a bit more


Overall coil control seems less aggressive all the way around. Which makes it cake more like regular Power mode. Keeps it from being anemic but may not stop 100% of wick degradation. Does stop flat out dry hits. But doesn't leave wick unscathed.

I'm sure you could change it in settings to be more conservative in wick management. Knock it down one numerical Level or back one alpha level.
 
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Without overwhelming support from citizens vendors have no chance. If the vendors would stop making setups that blow storm clouds that would be a positive step toward repealing laws that came about from moronic sceners trying to out do each other with wheeled generators and
.00000001 builds consuming 15 ml of liquid per storm cloud vaped inside elevators with infants.


Activism has to start with consumers. So vendors can join in and their lawsuits carry more public opinion support. While public opinion is uniformed and biased against ecigs lawsuits sand much less chance of success , proclamations of impartiality aside.


I was told that the hotel I'm in is non smoking and I couldn't "smoke that digital cigarette either" without risking a big fine. I tried to explain its nothing like a cigarette nor is it smoking but they said it's exactly the same and it makes the room smell bad like cigarettes.

This is john q public's opinion. Until we convince them otherwise and counteract the scaremongers paid by big tobacco he public won't realize they're being played and puppeteers in the big tobacco office have well intentioned soccer moms dancing a jig that returns the money and power to the addictive cancer stick of last year.
Sooooo once again it's the cloud chasers fault. :facepalm:
 
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