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TheColdHandedVG

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My Radius was doing this as well and I wasn't sure if it was normal so I contacted Provape and they told me I needed to return it for a new unit. If this is actually how these are supposed to function then I will be putting my replacement up for sale when I receive it. I would never feel comfortable leaving my house with a mod that really gives you no idea how much true battery power is remaining. I just wish they would have stuck with the same readout as the P3 which was/is perfect imo.

Well unfortunately that is exactly how it works, it even says so in their user manual. Go check it out on their website. They try to compare it to a cars "miles per gallon" rating that is usually a completely separate meter from the gas tank level reading. You really can't combine those two readings and still get an accurate reading on your battery voltage. This is just a classic case of trying to reinvent the wheel.

I definitely will NOT be selling my Radius over this design decision, but I still would rather have the option to get a true battery voltage reading.
 

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Check this out (this is directly from the Provari Radius user manual on page 6): http://www.provape.com/v/pdf/ProVariRadiusManual_English.pdf

-The battery gauge tells you how much energy is available to the atomizer. This new approach is a little different than a typical battery percentage meter. Most percentage meters, like on your cell phone, “count down” so the battery level is always going down until you reach 0%. The ProVari Radius works more like an average mileage calculator on a car. As you speed up (or raise your power level), the miles per gallon will go down because you are using more fuel. As you slow down (lower your power level), the miles per gallon go up. This is a much more accurate way of telling the user how much energy is left in the battery for the atomizer to use. This number changes based on the power level you have the Radius set to along with your style of vaping. You will notice that this percentage will adjust as you change settings and it’s perfectly normal for it to go back up as the battery recovers between uses.

I really don't understand how this is a more accurate reading. You can even see how they are saying it is like the average MPG calculator in a car, but they completely ignore the fact that this will result in a battery meter that isn't actually giving you a battery voltage reading. Also, my car doesn't go from a 30mpg reading to a 50mpg reading within a 60 second time span. It would take weeks for my MPG to change by even a few digits. That is why a car can give you an accurate average reading, and it still keeps that reading separated from the actual gas tank reading. The Radius seems to clear it's previous reading and give you a new reading every few minutes. If my car did that I would never know when to fill up!
 

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I don't have a radius or a P3, just the 2.5's and I never check to see what my battery level is at, when it starts blinking I change it. When I get a Radius I will most likely do the same thing, but if it lasts me all day one a charge, then I would just charge it over night like a lot of people are doing. :2c:

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Dear Sir Rod, I wouldn't be so rude as to say shut up :wub:.

I've read posts and thought 'what an idiot!' (and worse) but I stop myself from responding in kind because it's not going to go anywhere but :pop:. I grab one of my ProVaris, take a vape and go to a better place.:banana: Sometimes I try a respectful reply, but when that gets more crap, I ignore it and move on. It's the old 'you can't change stupid'.

You have a big heart and are a staunch ProVari defender, both are good things. [HUGS]

Oh my dear, I know you weren't being rude or telling me to shut up. I was translating loosely, but it is what I should do with him. He manages to bring out the worst in me and I should, by now have learned to ignore him. Somehow though, I'm just not good at ignoring rudeness. No I'm not.
 

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I don't have a radius or a P3, just the 2.5's and I never check to see what my battery level is at, when it starts blinking I change it. When I get a Radius I will most likely do the same thing, but if it lasts me all day one a charge, then I would just charge it over night like a lot of people are doing. :2c:

KAS
That's what I do Kas. Except mine doesn't start flashing until the battery is dead. So I just vape. When it doesn't vape anymore I change the battery.
 

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That's what I do Kas. Except mine doesn't start flashing until the battery is dead. So I just vape. When it doesn't vape anymore I change the battery.
Sometimes I leave the house and checking the battery voltage lets me know if I should put in a fresh battery or if I'm good to go. Why remaining battery voltage is not there baffles me.
 

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That's not normal to jump that much. That could be a bad battery. Try a different battery first, make sure it's updated and if it still happens contact provape. Could be a symptom of the bad cap issue. I can't find it now but I thought someone posted a similar issue just before the output 7 fault showed up. USM also had a display issue o his first radius.
My radius failed, but before it failed the battery meter would go to about 75% within a few puffs, and then jump back and forth. I think my replacement is much more stable.
 

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Well mine was going from full to half after just one hit at 14 watts on a fresh charge,then back to full,then down to 1/4,then to 3/4 and so on. That really tells me nothing. If this is normal behavior I am wondering why Provape asked me to return it for a replacement?
Nope...thats not normal ;)

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That's not normal to jump that much. That could be a bad battery. Try a different battery first, make sure it's updated and if it still happens contact provape. Could be a symptom of the bad cap issue. I can't find it now but I thought someone posted a similar issue just before the output 7 fault showed up. USM also had a display issue o his first radius.
Ironically with the battery meter....but opposite....wouldn't change at all [emoji14]

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That isn't true at all though. The Battery meter doesn't tell you how much battery you have based on the atty you have one the device, it tells you the battery life based on your recent vaping style, such as taking many drags within a short period of time or letting the device sit without vaping. Provape tried to turn a battery meter into a timer that doesn't actually give you the time.

I also don't like how Provape and yourself compare it to a gas meter. What car in the world has a gas meter that goes from being a half full reading to a 1/4 reading because you hit the pedal hard? The way modern cars really work is that they have a gas meter that tells you exactly how much gas is in your tank and then there is a SEPARATE meter that tells you your approximate miles per gallon based on your style. The Provari Radius is trying to combine the two of those, which just isn't logical or helpful in any way. Anyone with half a brain can guess how much longer they have before they need to fill up if their car is telling them they have 1/4 of a tank. I wouldn't want to have 1/4 of a tank and then my cars gas meter telling me I have 1/10 of a tank because I am accelerating harder than usual, that just would be a false reading. A battery meter should never jump around after every few drags.
If you check what i said....i didn't compare it to the fuel GAUGE, but the remaining mileage meter found on new cars...and it really does work exactly the same way.

I guess if you constantly change your vape style then such a set up could be confusing, but for me it works out well

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Check this out (this is directly from the Provari Radius user manual on page 6): http://www.provape.com/v/pdf/ProVariRadiusManual_English.pdf

-The battery gauge tells you how much energy is available to the atomizer. This new approach is a little different than a typical battery percentage meter. Most percentage meters, like on your cell phone, “count down” so the battery level is always going down until you reach 0%. The ProVari Radius works more like an average mileage calculator on a car. As you speed up (or raise your power level), the miles per gallon will go down because you are using more fuel. As you slow down (lower your power level), the miles per gallon go up. This is a much more accurate way of telling the user how much energy is left in the battery for the atomizer to use. This number changes based on the power level you have the Radius set to along with your style of vaping. You will notice that this percentage will adjust as you change settings and it’s perfectly normal for it to go back up as the battery recovers between uses.

I really don't understand how this is a more accurate reading. You can even see how they are saying it is like the average MPG calculator in a car, but they completely ignore the fact that this will result in a battery meter that isn't actually giving you a battery voltage reading. Also, my car doesn't go from a 30mpg reading to a 50mpg reading within a 60 second time span. It would take weeks for my MPG to change by even a few digits. That is why a car can give you an accurate average reading, and it still keeps that reading separated from the actual gas tank reading. The Radius seems to clear it's previous reading and give you a new reading every few minutes. If my car did that I would never know when to fill up!
Funny but those mileage meters in cars really do adust drastically depending on driving....at least, every one I've seen.....you are confusing average mpg vs remaining miles on tank meters ;)

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You,ll need to explain this. If 3 volts at 5 amps give you 15 watts and 5 volts at 3 amps give you 15 watts, how is the current draw the same? I don't get it. Seems like 5 is more than 3.
Let's assume your battery is outputting 4.0V under this 15W load (nearly fresh charge). Regardless of the output voltage of the regulator, the battery is outputting 15W, or 15/4 = 3.75 amps.

The regulator adjusts the battery voltage. When it increases voltage, it decreases current proportionately, such that power is never created or destroyed in the process. If it decreases voltage it increases current, such that the power output from the regulator is always the same as the power inputted.

That is slightly idealized. There will be some loss in the regulator circuit. But there is no general reason why, for example, a 1 ohm load would result in more loss than a 2 ohm load. It depends on the specifics of the regulator. And since we can't precisely define that loss we can safely ignore it for general discussion.
 

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The wife just informed me that my stocking stuffer this Christmas is any (1) vaporizer and any (1) accessory from the Provape website. Oh man, hate having choices. First thought was another Radius and then it occurred to me she said Any...I don't own any titanium and thought Stealth Titanium P3 with a Stealth Kabuki to top it off. Anyone had any problems with the fit or finish on the Stealth Ti Military Edition at all?


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The wife just informed me that my stocking stuffer this Christmas is any (1) vaporizer and any (1) accessory from the Provape website. Oh man, hate having choices. First thought was another Radius and then it occurred to me she said Any...I don't own any titanium and thought Stealth Titanium P3 with a Stealth Kabuki to top it off. Anyone had any problems with the fit or finish on the Stealth Ti Military Edition at all?


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Wow, now I'm wondering what your big Christmas present will be.
 

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Wow, now I'm wondering what your big Christmas present will be.

She is cunning that wife of mine. She may have taken the stocking stuffers and put them Ina big box for under the tree and this will be it. Or it could be a Bermuda trip like last year. Never know with her. But she does have a big heart and that's all I want[emoji2]


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