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coldgin96

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Remember those "xbox is better than ps, ps is better than xbox " guys (they were indeed kids) thats how some people act in here.
HEY! Not all of us who thinks Xbox is better than PlayStation is a kid! :mad:
 

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Cheap mods are like cheap car amplifiers; people pay more for power that's not really there...

There are very few people that understand that, and it's completely true.

I have tested SO many imported boxes for output, and they are often only capable of as LITTLE as 50% of their rated output. Some do better than others, but very few that claim to be 50 watts actually are, and there are 75 watt Asian box mods that don't even put out 38 watts into a real load.

People believe what they read on the screen as being the actual power that is being delivered, and in SO many cases it's not true at all.

And the Steam Engine site can be used to verify the lie, because they just input the numbers on the screen, which of course will sum to the screen numbers.

I know that my P3 at 20 watts (where I only have vaped it "for fun") with a Kanger Subtank, actually hit HARDER than an Invader Mini at 35 watts.

I should pull some of the data we recorded in the shop and post it just for fun one of these days.
 

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I'm feeling bad that Chanara took the Hamster thing as a personal insult. I really didn't mean it to be making fun of anybody in particular, or any group of vapers.
There's an old saying about stand-up comics... "It doesn't matter if the comic thinks he's funny... if the audience isn't laughing, he isn't funny."

I really like laughing "with" people, and I find no joy in laughing "at" people.

Specs of the Radius aside, I feel pretty awful that I hurt his feelings. It sure wasn't my attention.
 

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Why would you want to stand in front of a T.V. and wave your arms around?

Because I paid so much money for it, I guess.

I have a funny Wii story... A friend of mine had one too, and we used to play tennis on the darned thing... It was actually pretty fun, anyway, one day he showed up at my house with REAL tennis rackets and some balls he bought at a garage sale and declared "Let's go play tennis for real"...

Long story short... Yeah... we couldn't play tennis for real. Not even close.
 

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thanks man, the Ti mini is my daily go to mod over all the others, so light compact and stealthy
Yes! I know of what you speak :)


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a match made in heaven, light as a feather, and well paired...
 
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There are very few people that understand that, and it's completely true.

I have tested SO many imported boxes for output, and they are often only capable of as LITTLE as 50% of their rated output. Some do better than others, but very few that claim to be 50 watts actually are, and there are 75 watt Asian box mods that don't even put out 38 watts into a real load.

People believe what they read on the screen as being the actual power that is being delivered, and in SO many cases it's not true at all.

And the Steam Engine site can be used to verify the lie, because they just input the numbers on the screen, which of course will sum to the screen numbers.

I know that my P3 at 20 watts (where I only have vaped it "for fun") with a Kanger Subtank, actually hit HARDER than an Invader Mini at 35 watts.

I should pull some of the data we recorded in the shop and post it just for fun


You really should Zen, it would be informative to us who really want to now the truth, and could quite well cause some to question their beliefs in what is really going on with all this stuff that is out there, numbers wise....
 
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I'm feeling bad that Chanara took the Hamster thing as a personal insult. I really didn't mean it to be making fun of anybody in particular, or any group of vapers.
There's an old saying about stand-up comics... "It doesn't matter if the comic thinks he's funny... if the audience isn't laughing, he isn't funny."

I really like laughing "with" people, and I find no joy in laughing "at" people.

Specs of the Radius aside, I feel pretty awful that I hurt his feelings. It sure wasn't my attention.
I think a lot of us got that Zen, it's easy for things to be interpreted sideways on the internet.
 

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There are very few people that understand that, and it's completely true.

I have tested SO many imported boxes for output, and they are often only capable of as LITTLE as 50% of their rated output. Some do better than others, but very few that claim to be 50 watts actually are, and there are 75 watt Asian box mods that don't even put out 38 watts into a real load.

Now you're entering my area of expertise - audio electronics. Yes, it's very true about audio amplifiers not performing anywhere near their quoted specs. There are so many factors to consider when pairing an amp with a speaker/driver, and watts is pretty much the least important of them all.

I know that my P3 at 20 watts (where I only have vaped it "for fun") with a Kanger Subtank, actually hit HARDER than an Invader Mini at 35 watts.

There's a lot of crap out there, that's for sure. I've done some of my own testing, as well as watching technical reviews (PBusardo's good at scope screenshots), and it's amazing how inaccurate most of what's out there really is.

I should pull some of the data we recorded in the shop and post it just for fun one of these days.

I'd be especially interested to see your data.
 

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You really should Zen, it would be informative to us who really want to now the truth, and could quite well cause some to question their beliefs in what is really going on with all this stuff that is out there, numbers wise....

The fear is that it has the potential to really create some flame wars because as we all know how WE are attached to our devices... the same goes for the lovers of the import stuff... I mean, They REALLY want to believe that a watt on the screen = a watt on the coil. And some of them think they have the tools to argue. It does get pretty tiresome when they REALLY believe those numbers are true. AND when they REALLY believe their math actually means what they think it does... It may be better saved for a less "tumultuous" time.
 

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Now you're entering my area of expertise - audio electronics. Yes, it's very true about audio amplifiers not performing anywhere near their quoted specs. There are so many factors to consider when pairing an amp with a speaker/driver, and watts is pretty much the least important of them all.

And in the audio world... ESPECIALLY car audio... the whole idea of making lower impedance speakers means MORE POWER to people that don't understand that while you do HAVE double the power, the load you just created REQUIRES double the power, so you have not increased your output by a single DB, AND you messed up the damping of the whole kit and kaboodle... AND by the way, that amp doesn't REALLY double as you halve the resistance, because the power supply is going soft on you, AND for added measure, now it's clipping... Fun isn't it?
 
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