Official ProVari Radius Thread

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rbrylawski

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Oh Jim.......you've taken one too many pills tonight. Please don't go fer a drive, dig me?

And Stanley, who among us hasn't bought a bunch of crap we didn't need, didn't last, didn't work as advertised and disappointed. At least you know getting another Radius will not disappoint and gosh, if the vape Apocalypse happens, you'll be better prepared. Yes you will!
 

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Oh Jim.......you've taken one too many pills tonight. Please don't go fer a drive, dig me?

And Stanley, who among us hasn't bought a bunch of crap we didn't need, didn't last, didn't work as advertised and disappointed. At least you know getting another Radius will not disappoint and gosh, if the vape Apocalypse happens, you'll be better prepared. Yes you will!
Happy pills!!!! :evil:


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It vapes great! But those features for that price didn't sit well with me. Lol I'm a full blown advocate of temp control. If it was there maybe I wouldn't feel the same.

A product's price point isn't just about features, but also about build/materials quality, accuracy and reliability not to mention all the R&D. The class 3 PCB board alone probably costs more to manufacture then most of the cheap Chinese mods you mentioned. The average person might not care, and that's fine, but many of us do care and are willing to pay for it (you get what you pay for, after all!). And speaking of accuracy, I watch all of Pbusardo's videos and as far as I can tell, to this day, the most accurate device (according to his charts) is still the P3 from last year! And I'm confident that the Radius will do just as well, if he ever gets around to reviewing it.

I don't get the 'I could buy 5 vamos for the price of 1 provari'...in what way is replacing something 5 times better than just buying one and having it last?

About TC...not everyone has jumped on that band-wagon. Don't be misled by the vocal minority, as far as I can tell, the majority still aren't sold on its' current implementation. I tried TC for a couple of months (have an IPV4S), and when it worked it worked great...the rest of the time I was fiddling with it and troubleshooting. For instance, I would build a new coil....exact same wraps, etc. as my previous...but would it vape the same? Not necessarily! I would then have to spend the next 10 minutes trying new settings....the whole time I'm sitting there thinking "damn it, if this was my Kanthal build I'd be sitting here enjoying it already". Or a tank that was working great the day before now is working not-so-great when I switched back to it. Yes, I waited until I thought both atty and mod were the same room temp. I think this is the main problem and why it's been called 'temp guessing'. And incidentally, it was Pbusardo who first called it that, and not the Provape rep on POH.

Speaking of Pbusardo, it's noteworthy that a year ago he gave the DNA40 a thumbs down because he though it was too involved...he said that the right approach would be if you didn't have to do anything special...in other words you could use what ever wires or atty you pleased. A year later, and he gives the DNA200 an 'enthusiastic' thumbs up. Did Evolve step up and give us a new tinker-free TC? Nope, if anything they have dug an even deeper hole of complexity. I'm sure there are extreme enthusiasts that don't mind being tethered to their PCs just so they can get a great vape, and that's fine, but don't think for a minute that everyone wants that.

I never had a problem with dry hits on Kanthal (I know how to wick my attys), I was interested in the concept of not over cooking my juice which could lead to the creation of nasty chemicals. However, since I prefer vaping under 40W (I tried going as high as 80-100), and I think I can taste if my juice is over-cooking then my worries might be pointless (I could be wrong). So I had some fun tinkering with it, but, at the end of the day, I realized I just wanna vape! I like wrapping my own coils but that's about it. My disillusion coincided nicely with the release of the Radius. It's brought me back home.

Not to beat a dead horse, but features shouldn't be your main guide when buying something you hold up to your face or plug into a wall in your home over-night. Let's look at the IPV4 (v1). Yea, it had a lot of nice features (lacking in the Radius). It also had a really nice feature where the internal USB charging board would melt! Nice. But that's ok, you can just buy a couple more for the price of a Radius.

I have nothing against you wanting to vape the way you do (and I have watched quite a few of your videos), but if your going to review something like the Radius, then you should be a little more objective and impartial. In other words, realize what kind of vaper this mod is meant for, and then take it from there.

IMO, if you don't need more than 40W, don't care about TC's current implementation, and don't mind paying for quality, then there isn't a better APV.

BTW, the boost doesn't go over 40W. Learn your product before you review it! And the manual is right there on their website (not at all "confusing" as you stated).

ps: love boost
 

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What I appreciate in most reviewers is their review of the product. I personally don't think the video which has been linked in this thread was about the product- but more a rant about how Provape is behind the times.
{IMO} The best reviewer of a Provape device would be an actual current user- not someone who hasn't used one in forever cause their style of vaping changed ages ago.

So now I wait for someone to do a real review of the Radius not laced with profanity!
 

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Just stopping by to mention that the replacement (came with v18 already installed) is working properly and all is well in the world[emoji14]

I'll be too busy for the next few days to stop in much. Gotta get my folks property fencing finished by Monday....an appraiser will be coming early Tuesday (they are going to refi.). We are talking 4x4 (4x6 for the gates) pressure treated poles, 2x6 top rail and 6' non climb wire (horse fencing). So even when i get home, I'm so tired i just want to go to sleep [emoji14]

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I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Carribean Red ( with Rose Pink silicon cover) ... I sent the dealer my P3 for the 38 update ( free, as part of a discount) so should have them by next week BUT, I've just seen the white radius :hubba: and am seriously thinking of dipping into my rapidly depleting 'emergency fund' to buy it !
I definitely don't need it, already have a classic, mini + 2x 40w isticks and a few others ... I just love provaris, not interested in sub ohm or TC , just want a reputable safe, reliable, device that's easy to use and will last :)

btw ,where can I make one of those great provari banners?
 

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I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Carribean Red ( with Rose Pink silicon cover) ... I sent the dealer my P3 for the 38 update ( free, as part of a discount) so should have them by next week BUT, I've just seen the white radius :hubba: and am seriously thinking of dipping into my rapidly depleting 'emergency fund' to buy it !
I definitely don't need it, already have a classic, mini + 2x 40w isticks and a few others ... I just love provaris, not interested in sub ohm or TC , just want a reputable safe, reliable, device that's easy to use and will last :)

btw ,where can I make one of those great provari banners?
Congrats!!!

Some banners can be found here:

http://www.provape.com/category-s/31.htm

Cheers, Jim
 

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Today at work I vaped on a nautilus could for the first time in about a year. I forgot how smooth and great the vape was...even at 1.8 ohm. I purchased a vt200 to learn about escribe to help customers and dang is it hard to learn...even for someone who works in the cellular industry as a second job lol. Anyway, I won't use the DNA device much unless I want to drip my velocity. Sx minis and my radius wins again!

As for Twisted's review, he is entitled to his own opinion but if I was in his shoes, I would have reviewed it towards who it is catered to; not his own personal preference. Just my thoughts of the day.


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Haha you're on a roll!

And I'm still leaning towards me being picked on, but it's OK!

Either way - here goes. I've got a little wrap on there, which has throws it off a bit:

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Of course, black goes with everything, but I think Ghost White would look terrific in your pictures.
 

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I completely understand. I use that same approach with cars and car parts. Lol But I wouldn't buy a Corolla if it didn't fit my driving style. The Radius just simply doesn't fit my vaping style in this day and age.

Then you shouldn't have reviewed it in the first place. You just wanted to get the views and cash in on the Provari hate bandwagon.
 

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Then you shouldn't have reviewed it in the first place. You just wanted to get the views and cash in on the Provari hate bandwagon.

I'm not sure that's entirely true, if at all. Reviewers post what they feel is important to mention. It is the reviewers responsibility to decide what they wish to say about how the device works for them. They are voicing THEIR opinions...

The consumer has the responsibility to decide which reviewer's style of vaping most closely matches the consumers specific needs. As an example, I wouldn't care too much about the opinions of Rip Trippers when reviewing a Radius. He has demonstrated that he vapes in an entirely different way than I do, so his input has less value to me than others, such as perhaps, VapeMiser... he's more inclined to vape like I do.

The consumer has to decide what's right for them. And no matter what a reviewer says about being unbiased, realize that there will ALWAYS be the bias of personal preference. I have not watched twisted review, I gather it was a lot of "behind the times" and "too little too late" and "needs Temp Control to be relevant", etc.... That is EXACTLY what I would expect to hear from him! There's probably a tidbit about value in their as well.

Well, as I see it, he has the right to that opinion, just as I have the right to feel that a comment about too little too late is both unenlightened and not in anyway relevant to me. I have positively no use for temp control, and I would never trade more features for lower reliability. My opinions... my choice to feel that way. And it's OK if he feels it's too expensive for what it is. It's my money to spend in any way I see fit. Even if twisted feels it's a bad value.

I think cheap imported mods for 1/5th the price are less of a value. If I couldn't afford a Radius, I'd find something else that I can afford, and it probably wouldn't be an Asian import. I'd find a used or lower price mod of good quality, or save my pennies and dimes until I could afford what I wanted.

I'll eventually watch Twisted's video... I've seen others. He has an opinion. he has a right to that opinion.... He has a right to voice that opinion.

And I have the right to ignore him if I disagree.

What a reviewer says about a device reveals more about the REVIEWER than it does about the DEVICE. Perspective matters.
 

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I'm not sure that's entirely true, if at all. Reviewers post what they feel is important to mention. It is the reviewers responsibility to decide what they wish to say about how the device works for them. They are voicing THEIR opinions...

The consumer has the responsibility to decide which reviewer's style of vaping most closely matches the consumers specific needs. As an example, I wouldn't care too much about the opinions of Rip Trippers when reviewing a Radius. He has demonstrated that he vapes in an entirely different way than I do, so his input has less value to me than others, such as perhaps, VapeMiser... he's more inclined to vape like I do.

The consumer has to decide what's right for them. And no matter what a reviewer says about being unbiased, realize that there will ALWAYS be the bias of personal preference. I have not watched twisted review, I gather it was a lot of "behind the times" and "too little too late" and "needs Temp Control to be relevant", etc.... That is EXACTLY what I would expect to hear from him! There's probably a tidbit about value in their as well.

Well, as I see it, he has the right to that opinion, just as I have the right to feel that a comment about too little too late is both unenlightened and not in anyway relevant to me. I have positively no use for temp control, and I would never trade more features for lower reliability. My opinions... my choice to feel that way. And it's OK if he feels it's too expensive for what it is. It's my money to spend in any way I see fit. Even if twisted feels it's a bad value.

I think cheap imported mods for 1/5th the price are less of a value. If I couldn't afford a Radius, I'd find something else that I can afford, and it probably wouldn't be an Asian import. I'd find a used or lower price mod of good quality, or save my pennies and dimes until I could afford what I wanted.

I'll eventually watch Twisted's video... I've seen others. He has an opinion. he has a right to that opinion.... He has a right to voice that opinion.

And I have the right to ignore him if I disagree.

What a reviewer says about a device reveals more about the REVIEWER than it does about the DEVICE. Perspective matters.

It just seemed like a pointless "review" as he stated himself that it wasn't geared towards his current vaping needs. I just don't understand any point at all in the video other than to bash Provape. Might as well have Rip Trippers review the Kabuki while were at it. I have one and absolutely love it but to him it would just be a $90 joke.
 

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It just seemed like a pointless "review" as he stated himself that it wasn't geared towards his current vaping needs. I just don't understand any point at all in the video other than to bash Provape. Might as well have Rip Trippers review the Kabuki while were at it. I have one and absolutely love it but to him it would just be a $90 joke.

Different reviewers have different styles. I prefer people who focus on the product, regardless of whether they would buy it or not, and who read the manual prior to filming. That's why I don't watch some of them. While watching a video it becomes obvious pretty fast when a person isn't providing useful information and I move on. It's annoying when I'm really interested in a new product and don't learn anything from a video, but more will be posted - good and bad. I wish Mark Todd would come back.

Still, I give Twisted points for using the word ProVarinati. We Are Legion.
 
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I know they have their fans (very vocal ones, at that), but IMO guys like Twisted and Rip are a BIG part of the problem the vaping community faces with the public at large. Those two are at the forefront of the "CLOUDS BRAH" movement. They're constantly pushing people to build lower and lower, and run hotter and hotter, with absolutely zero mention of safety or basic principles of electronics.
What a load of nonsense. People are responsible for their own decisions and are not forced to build lower and lower and run ridiculous amounts of power through a coil. A YouTube reviewer cannot push people into doing anything they don't want to do.

And speaking of accuracy, I watch all of Pbusardo's videos and as far as I can tell, to this day, the most accurate device (according to his charts) is still the P3 from last year!
It's not important if a PV isn't accurate to within 0.1 watts. Does it really matter if you get 24.7 watts when you set it to 25 watts if it tastes good?
 
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