Thank you Waterdog, just came home so will try tomorrow (predicting future..... after lots of coffee), the nautilus at least right now is much better, tried Roxy`s tips and it improved but still not what I thought it would be. When I lung hit it its very nice but mouth to lung which is the way I vape 90% of the time is just not there at all, not even close to the Nautilus but i`m pretty confident tomorrow I will figure it out, just remembered I have a thing I have to go aaaaaaaahhh! Thanksgiving reunion, we don`t celebrate it here but I have some friends who are from the U.S. so they want to celebrate it tomorrow.. or today, what time is it? anyhow I am digressing a bit but thats me under the influence lol, ok talk to you tomorrow its time to pass out.
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Thank you Waterdog, just came home so will try tomorrow (predicting future..... after lots of coffee), the nautilus at least right now is much better, tried Roxy`s tips and it improved but still not what I thought it would be. When I lung hit it its very nice but mouth to lung which is the way I vape 90% of the time is just not there at all, not even close to the Nautilus but i`m pretty confident tomorrow I will figure it out, just remembered I have a thing I have to go aaaaaaaahhh! Thanksgiving reunion, we don`t celebrate it here but I have some friends who are from the U.S. so they want to celebrate it tomorrow.. or today, what time is it? anyhow I am digressing a bit but thats me under the influence lol, ok talk to you tomorrow its time to pass out.
Best of luck with the build and thanksgiving is this Thursday. Bring on the food coma! Also another thing to consider when you think about flavor in your vape. The squape I run about 18 watts vs 10-12 in my nautilus. Juices change when you move up in watts. I have an orange and cream in my nautilus and all I really taste is orange and a very strong orange at that. When I put it in a rta the orange gets muted a bit and I can finally taste some cream. Now I like that better myself but others might not. You might also be trying to get that one pronounced flavor vs trying to find other flavors in the vape now. Just a thought.
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Hello WD yes thanksgiving is this thursday but they want to do it today don`t know why, I guess thursday no one would go. Have some time now to play with this now. You are right about the flavor, honestly flavor doesn`t bother me as much, it is acceptable, but vapor is very low. Thank you for the tips!!!
Twisted 28 ga 4/5 wraps at 20W 0.7 ohms, good thing the DNA 40 has the step down feature, performing amazingly well, perfect, just perfect with airflow wide open (lung hits). At 14-16 watts with the airflow set to mouth to lung still very little vapor and the flavor, surprisingly is not as good as when it is wide open. What else could I try to make this perform well with mouth to lung hits?
Just keep popping the base off and fiddling with your wicks. I fluff them up, push them in the channels, trim tails etc multiple times on the same cotton to get it just right. The Squape is so simple to access the build that you can do many many builds and modifications in rapid succession.
The only variables that you can take into consideration is coil height, coil type, cotton setup, juice viscosity, wattage, airflow setting and which deck your using. Any one of those could be a factor as to why it's not working properly.
The only variables that you can take into consideration is coil height, coil type, cotton setup, juice viscosity, wattage, airflow setting and which deck your using. Any one of those could be a factor as to why it's not working properly.
@julpin - Hard to tell from your pics but if your using a DNA 40 device, running in Temperature PROTECTION mode, and using Ni200 then you want spaced coils. Wrap on your mandrel and then squeeze them together tight but not touching.
Contact coils are VERY difficult. That's a paraphrase direct from Evolv. If you decide to try it my way then allow the 40 chip time to perform it's "Refinement Mode" so you may need to try the vape at your settings, let the device just sit and try it again. If you have room on your topper try and hit 0.1.
EDIT: Sorry I missed this critical point. Stand in front of a mirror and see if during your draw (all kinds) you receive the Temperature Protection warning. If you do then watts are stepped down/reduced and your vapor drops and you loose flavor but the device still fires. IF this is the case you need to play with your temp and watts settings so you NEVER receive the TP warning during the duration of your various draws.
Good luck!
Contact coils are VERY difficult. That's a paraphrase direct from Evolv. If you decide to try it my way then allow the 40 chip time to perform it's "Refinement Mode" so you may need to try the vape at your settings, let the device just sit and try it again. If you have room on your topper try and hit 0.1.
EDIT: Sorry I missed this critical point. Stand in front of a mirror and see if during your draw (all kinds) you receive the Temperature Protection warning. If you do then watts are stepped down/reduced and your vapor drops and you loose flavor but the device still fires. IF this is the case you need to play with your temp and watts settings so you NEVER receive the TP warning during the duration of your various draws.
Good luck!
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For those who are having trouble getting the flavor they're looking for, I think one factor may be the length of the device. It's a long a&* tank with a long a@$ drip tip. That vapor has a longer journey to get to you than it does on most tanks.
Best solution is probably a bit more power/heat than you would normally run. Which is yet another reason I'm chapped about the W deck being optional. This isn't 2012, cotton builds are the most common now, and I expect the W deck and ability to do a stouter build it gives are highly preferable.
I need to do a head to head with my KFL+ at some point. I feel like the flavor is at least on that level, and the extras this RTA offers (Especially being able to adjust airflow on the fly, that's beyond sweet) make it a superior tank IMHO. Do they justify the price delta? Can't say I have a strong opinion there.
Of course we have a new Kayfun just around the corner, so...
Best solution is probably a bit more power/heat than you would normally run. Which is yet another reason I'm chapped about the W deck being optional. This isn't 2012, cotton builds are the most common now, and I expect the W deck and ability to do a stouter build it gives are highly preferable.
I need to do a head to head with my KFL+ at some point. I feel like the flavor is at least on that level, and the extras this RTA offers (Especially being able to adjust airflow on the fly, that's beyond sweet) make it a superior tank IMHO. Do they justify the price delta? Can't say I have a strong opinion there.
Of course we have a new Kayfun just around the corner, so...
Let's see some more pix of the wide deck builds! I'm having trouble with mine flooding right now, and in the course of my tests I'm getting way over-nic'd. I need some 0mg nicotine juice for tests and am currently using 12. I may experiment with a little larger tails, but I'm mostly adjusting coil height
Are you building with the largest rod/bit that can fit in the W deck, full tank of juice, building in the channel and not above, and what type of cotton are you using?
Lazy Sunday here, so going for a lowrider build in the S deck, just to see if it feels like working for me now 
Edit: Flavor seems a bit improved, compared to high build I normally do, but it's also a new coil and wick. It'll be interesting to see if I'm gonna get a nice handful of e-liquid though.
What are your guys experience with high vs. low sitting coils vs. leaking?
Edit: Flavor seems a bit improved, compared to high build I normally do, but it's also a new coil and wick. It'll be interesting to see if I'm gonna get a nice handful of e-liquid though.
What are your guys experience with high vs. low sitting coils vs. leaking?
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Ok, someone told me last night he likes "the Roxy coil" so I will share what I've been doing. The funny part is I hit on this with my first clone in my efforts to avoid flooding and a poorly coated deck. But, the flavor was amazing so I've gone back to it. For W deck. 3mm coil or close to it. 7 wraps of 28g. About 1.5 ohms. Leads on top. I lay the drill bit or whatever in the wick sslots as I trap the coil. Then lift it just slightly.
Its a pretty good vape without lifting it, but even better lifted slightly. And enough wick it never floods.
Its a pretty good vape without lifting it, but even better lifted slightly. And enough wick it never floods.
Can we see a pic of "slightly lifted"? As that's a pretty big variable
3 of mine are "slightly lifted" as we speak, where slightly is like .5 mm of the coil peeking above the deck, the rest is in the well.Edit: Did the last one as well and took a picture this time. Right now, all mine are sitting like this
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Hope and pray this helps someone. First build with my Authentic. W deck. Six wraps of 28G Kanthal around a 3MM screw driver. Reads 1.5 OHMS. Juice is AHL TTA (think of a Gambit FILLER /lol) @ 50/50. Using KGD for a wick and trying as hard as I can to keep it nice and fluffy during the build. So far only about .5 ML testing. I did not mash the KGD into the horizontal channels. IMHO, wicking is everything. Not the length of the chamber. Note the wraps leave a lot to be desired /lol but I could care less at this stage. Kanthal wrapped all the way around the post screws. Pulled the coil up a bit so the wick is horizontal from end to end in the horizontal channells. That's my new way and only time will tell. Bolted on my KF narrow bore drip tip for even more flavor. WOW! A flavor monster and a Juice Hog /oink oink oink /LOL So far no leaks or the occasional dry hit. Knock wood. Fingers crossed.
The tolerance with respect to the chimney inside the tank are noticeably tighter. I had been using my syringes on the clone brigade but they no longer fit. Had to revert to a 10ML bottle with one of those needle like tips. Not my fav method. If you can find me say a 100ML juice bottle /lol with a needle tip that would be great.
HTH
The tolerance with respect to the chimney inside the tank are noticeably tighter. I had been using my syringes on the clone brigade but they no longer fit. Had to revert to a 10ML bottle with one of those needle like tips. Not my fav method. If you can find me say a 100ML juice bottle /lol with a needle tip that would be great.
HTH
Been enjoying this like nothing else today, finally have this figured out or maybe not..... at least got lucky with this build. It is honestly the best tank atomizer I`ve ever tried, the best.... the only downfall is this performs flawlessly with airhole set to lung hit just perfect, tons of vapor, amazing flavor, nice throat hit, I am inlove with this in those airholes, as I said, set to lung hit. When moving airhole for a mouth to lung is.. meh. But I don`t care because it is fantastic, I guess I can adjust myself to only do lung hits.
I'm using a 2.5 mm, so I could go slightly bigger, but not much. Juice is full, but coils are somewhat above the deck. I was under the impression that having them above the deck would help prevent flooding. I'm using Koh Gen Do cotton. I have Rayon, but haven't mastered it yet. I've been using KGD for months with my other devices
Building somewhat above the deck shouldn't hurt anything, that's how I've been doing it on the S deck until today, where I decided to give the low-sitting coils a go, and they seem to be doing fine (for now at least) as well.
I actually think my Boba's Bounty tank is wicking a bit better/giving better flavor that way, but both high and low coils seem to work, as long as you get the wicking right (which also seems pretty forgiving, compared to for example the ErlPrinz).
But I have 0 experience with the W deck, so can't say if it's harder to get it right on that one.
I actually think my Boba's Bounty tank is wicking a bit better/giving better flavor that way, but both high and low coils seem to work, as long as you get the wicking right (which also seems pretty forgiving, compared to for example the ErlPrinz).
But I have 0 experience with the W deck, so can't say if it's harder to get it right on that one.
Well I dropped my coil down, just about identical to lazybulldogs (props!) and rewicked and was still getting dry hits. So I tried wicking it with a bit less cotton, more like my Trident V2 on my reo and Tada! I'm certain my cotton was choking at the coil because it was pretty tight. I figured this out because the cotton was saturated when I pulled it apart and it was still hissing after I took a draw, so with the lesser amount of cotton, it's flowing alot smoother and working fantastic!
Yeah, too much or too little cotton can be hard to determine, as the symptons are often the same.
You get the afterburner/hiss and think "damn, dry hit, too much cotton", but in reality it can also be the coil taking time to cool down, due to not enough liquid caused by too little cotton and vice versa. At least that's my experience.
But hey, you got it working, now go enjoy that sweeeeet vape the SQuape R provides
You get the afterburner/hiss and think "damn, dry hit, too much cotton", but in reality it can also be the coil taking time to cool down, due to not enough liquid caused by too little cotton and vice versa. At least that's my experience.
But hey, you got it working, now go enjoy that sweeeeet vape the SQuape R provides
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