The Wire Slots on my Serpent Mini Sucked. They were Milled Too Deep. So it was hard to Trap a 28ga wire. And Wouldn't Trap a 30ga wire.
I had to Flatten the Ends of the Screws so they would work.
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The Wire Slots on my Serpent Mini Sucked. They were Milled Too Deep. So it was hard to Trap a 28ga wire. And Wouldn't Trap a 30ga wire.
I had to Flatten the Ends of the Screws so they would work.
Sure. And you've got to be careful when casting a fishing line, lest you cast too high, hook the moon, and pull the earth ever so slightly out of orbit.
Point is, every STM I've got (and seen) has had a proud-enough positive pin to work fine in a "hybrid" top-cap.
If ever someone comes across an atty that doesn't, there are usually ways to lift the pin- one of which may be to add an o-ring....adjust it with a screwdriver...whatever is appropriate to the pin design.
Mechs require understanding to use safely. No doubt. But, once someone knows what they need to know, they're just as safe (maybe safer) than something that relies on the device itself to follow the rules for them.
A "hybrid" top cap is no different. Once the user knows what its requirements are, its simplicity makes it, perhaps, even safer than a mod that relies on an insulator to do the job.
Fact is, electronic vaping is inherently dangerous, but no more so than driving a car, using an oven, a blow dryer, brushing your teeth, or cleaning your ears. You just have to know what to do, and what not to do, and you're GTG.
Telling someone that an STM should "NEVER" be used on a hybrid top cap is the same as telling someone they should "NEVER" blow dry their hair in the bathroom- failing to mention that it is actually the tubs full of water, that are normally found in said room, that are the actual, potential, problem.
I run my STM's wide open.
Except for the wicking it is a STM RBA deck though.
Mine are just about the thickness of a business card proud. Not enough for me. Drop it and dent in the top of the battery just slightly and there will be a violent hissy fit. Or just tighten things up a bit too tight one too many times.
Do what you want but I will never recommend a STM on a hybrid style topcap mech.
and you will never convince me that it is safe to do so.
I vape mostly STM's btw.
All my mechs have 510 center pins and I vape my STM's on them.
Yeah... If you are Running Wide Open on your STM, the Wine RTA would probably/most likely Not have enough Air Flow for you.
It could be Drilled Out. But with so Many other choices out there, it would seem like kinda a Pain to do so. Unless you Like to do Stuff like that.
Gotta agree it's a great RTA, I have several myself, I use them as is although I would like a it to be a bit less airy so I think I will try reducing the air intake too.
Agreed.
Also, the STM Doesn't have a Fixed 510 Pin. The 510 Pin is held down by either the RBA Section or the Coil Head.
So if you take the RBA or Coil Head off and then screw the STM Base onto a Hybrid Styled Mech, the 510 pin on the STM Base is going to get Pushed Up into the Base. And you aint gunna know it when you put things back together until you push the Switch on the Mod.
Not trying to convince you. Or, really, anyone, for that matter. Just making sure there was a counter-point to your assertion that they should "NEVER" be used.
Any battery can get dented. Any positive pin can get worn down or crushed. Any electronic board could get juice-logged and fry. Any 510 insulater can break. Any fishing hook could, theoretically, snag the moon and affect our binary orbit.
If someone understands how a hybrid top cap works, then they're just as safe, with ANY atty, as with any other mod.
If someone can't be bothered to observe the condition of their atty's connection, and the condition of their battery, then the mathematics of safe-building for a mech are WAY over their head.
It's like we're telling someone who is going to drive a homemade car on the highway, after they've built their own engine and formulated their own fuel for it, that they shouldn't drive it unless it has automatic seat belts because they might forget to click it.
If you've safely assembled a mech, atty, and hand-built coil, then making sure your 510 connector is GTG is a simple detail.
SO many new/never used/unknowlegable to mech mod vapers are picking them up for vapeageddon stash it would be irresponsible to recommend anything but safest options, a STM on a direct to battery cap mech mod (absolutely nothing hybrid about it) is not it. In several of the violent venting explosions that show the gear a STM or like atty was involved. Honestly, no tank with premade coils is a good candidate for direct to battery cap mech mods. IMHO
That or fold the wire back on itself
With my Eyes, and Fat Fingers, that is a PITA. Better for me to Flatten the Ends of the Screws.
Heck, whenever I get a New Atty, seems like I grab the Dremel Kit even before I open the Package. Always seems like there is Some Edge that needs Rounding. Or some Burn that needs to be Removed.
There was an attempt to regulate vaping and Govenor Swarzenegger vetoed it.
The shipping ejuice cross state lines was on thd radio that the current Govenor signed it into law recently. I was listening to 104.1 KQTH in Tucson.
The same station also reported that vaping in public places in Burbank was illegal.
I measured the pin protrusion on 6 of my authentic STM bases with authentic RBA's installed.
They measured between .010 to .015 inches.....
All I am saying on this.
I get where you're coming from, Truli, I really do. But that's slippery-slope logic.
The "safest" option, being "safe", that is, is not achievable, if they're going to vape. What if they buy an eGo and a CS4? Can that not short? Sure, it's less likely, but it can still happen.
Connecting a high-output battery to a heating coil, in a device that you're going to throw in your pocket or purse or cup-holder is inherently dangerous. I am of the opinion that it is much preferable to explain what the given risk is in any given setup and let the user go into it with eyes open.
A knowledgable coil builder, with a mech of any ilk, is, again, in my opinion, safer than a newb who can't be bothered with research/understanding with a 200w reg box and store-bought coils.
All I was saying is that simple is safe(st), and a direct-to-battery top-cap, if the precautions are followed, is the simplest and most robust option.
Truly, if the concern was that a "new/never used/unknowledgable" user is the subject, why are we even talking to them about a mech in the first place?
Making a solid, safe coil is magnitudes more complex than making sure your positive pin sticks out far enough.
I'm by no means saying that anyone is wrong for not wanting to use a direct-to-battery mech. I get that. I just wanted to state, in the context of the thread, that it was a relatively simple concern to be overcome, when we're already talking about high-amperage battery-powered devices that people carry in their pockets.
A "hybrid" top cap never caused a mod to explode. Lack of awareness did, though.
Its a great one. I lived the build, the flavor. The only thing i couldn't stand was the whistle that irritated my ruptured eardrum.
Arnold vetoed that Bill in 2009. LOL
And Brown hasn't Signed anything that takes effect on 8-8-16. That's the Date that the First FDA Requirements are Applied.
I think you heard it Wrong. Or 104.1 KQTH had it Wrong. Because there is Nothing, that I know of, that would Restrict the Sale or Receiving of e-Liquids across California State Lines.
And what was all that about Mods, Coils, etc? Did 104.1 KQTH say that you can't Sell or Receive Across CA State Lines also?
Radio is just like the internet.
Everything on there is true. Right?
Yesterday I listened to a talk radio segment on the net about Nibiru.
I better head back to Beta Triangula 6 SOON!
Everything on there is true. Right?
Yesterday I listened to a talk radio segment on the net about Nibiru.
I better head back to Beta Triangula 6 SOON!
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