On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Bob Chill]

I don't expect it will be very difficult to get a Chinese flavoring shipped in under the radar in the future. It may not be as readily available in the states, but veteran vapers should have little problem.

I mostly believe this as well but the risk of losing it is on the table and it sucks. And I'll only buy geniune concentrate in factory sealed bottling. I won't take some vendor's word if it isn't in original packaging.

Personally, and I DIY - this is not an acceptable ultimate solution.

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Not, it really isn't. I don't mind unflavored but being forced to go that route is a punch in the face.

 

[BillW50]

To be fair, Hangsen is the single largest tobacco concentrate manufacturer in the world with probably the most high tech production and RnD facility in the industry. I trust their products more than just about anybody's. And if I can't get those specific flavor concentrates it would be a pretty terrible set of circumstances for me.

When I started vaping (in 2014), I bought two bottles of Hangsen. I still have them in my vape drawer and I don't think I even vaped 2ml of each in that time. And almost two years later the chemical smell is just starting to disappear. And why is everything very high PG based?

 

[Bob Chill]

When I started vaping (in 2014), I bought two bottles of Hangsen. I still have them in my vape drawer and I don't think I even vaped 2ml of each in that time. And almost two years later the chemical smell is just starting to disappear. And why is everything very high PG based?

Did you buy pre-mix or concentrates for DIY?

I've never bought pre-mix Hangsen. I only buy their concentrates and mix it myself. One of the best if not the best tobacco concentrates on the market. I've never had a chemical smell or any quality control issue of any sort and I've been buying it for 2 years.

 

[BillW50]

@Bob Chill: No these are ready to use e-liquid. One is USA Mix 24mg and the other is Strong Mint 16mg. The USA Mix is tobacco flavoring which states no tobacco (I think they lie). Both are 50ml bottles.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I like the Hangsen , drat forget the name... desert ship flavoring.

 

[eGoinMD]

So, how long should 2 Kato Square mods last? Short of catastrophic deformation, that is...

Springs and screws are easily sourced, and I have 2 hammers that I can scavenge 510 connections from. But then again , I have 2 hammers....lol...

Now, on to KFL parts...

 

[Bob Chill]

@Bob Chill: No these are ready to use e-liquid. One is USA Mix 24mg and the other is Strong Mint 16mg. The USA Mix is tobacco flavoring which states no tobacco (I think they lie). Both are 50ml bottles.

Ah, gotcha. No, I would never buy Chinese premix given what's on the market in the US. Honestly, I really don't have full trust in any pre-mix regardless of source. Not that I think anyone is doing anything wrong or anything like that. I just personally prefer to know exactly what ingredients are in my juice. Simple personal preference.

I like the Hangsen , drat forget the name... desert ship flavoring.

DS has been my diy ADV for 2 years and counting. I'm not sure I can live without it. That's part of what has me so worried...

 

[BillW50]

Ah, gotcha. No, I would never buy Chinese premix given what's on the market in the US. Honestly, I really don't have full trust in any pre-mix regardless of source. Not that I think anyone is doing anything wrong or anything like that. I just personally prefer to know exactly what ingredients are in my juice. Simple personal preference.

Recently I thought that the day may come that all we can get is Chinese juices. So I bought two from GearBest, one Coffee and the other First Love (creamy nuts I think). Both are awful. I'll vape Kool Aid before vaping that stuff.

 

[Yiana]

Stockpile only the things likely to be pulled from the market.

Mods
Attys
Coil heads
Nicotine
Flavors for eJuice
Possibly resistance wife
Etc.

I got my nic situation down. I just need attys and mods. I'm going to jump on some monster minis for the price. I'm looking for reliable mods and decent prices since I am on a budget. My husband and I just bought our house and are in the process of moving, but going from renting to owning is going to save us a few hundred dollars a month which is a godsend for getting hardware before August.

 

[crxess]

Recently I thought that the day may come that all we can get is Chinese juices. So I bought two from GearBest, one Coffee and the other First Love (creamy nuts I think). Both are awful. I'll vape Kool Aid before vaping that stuff.

You bought Liquids from Gearbest
Sorry, I stopped making those mistakes a few years back.
IF, Big IF they are actually Hangsen or Dekang and NOT Shisha they May Age in.
Both Creams and Coffee flavors are 3-6 week Steep to mature,for many brands.

 

[BillW50]

You bought Liquids from Gearbest
Sorry, I stopped making those mistakes a few years back.
IF, Big IF they are actually Hangsen or Dekang and NOT Shisha they May Age in.
Both Creams and Coffee flavors are 3-6 week Steep to mature,for many brands.

Yeah they were my plan H if things get really bad. Shouldn't have worry about steeping them for 6 weeks. As they sat in a ship in the Pacific that long. They actually taste like juice made a year and a half ago.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

So, how long should 2 Kato Square mods last? Short of catastrophic deformation, that is...

Springs and screws are easily sourced, and I have 2 hammers that I can scavenge 510 connections from. But then again , I have 2 hammers....lol...

Now, on to KFL parts...

I dunno.... Properly maintained at least 5 years each?
Maybe 20?

 

[daviedog]

Can't do this with a Philips head

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William Tell?..

 

[eGoinMD]

I dunno.... Properly maintained at least 5 years each?
Maybe 20?

That was quasi rhetorical, but I appreciate the answer. Honestly, short of losing it, stripping a screw(or the 510), or wearing a spring out, I doubt that I can wear it out, especially using an all metal KFL.

 

[daviedog]

What I found online about states banning all but face to face transactions for tobacco products.
Note this is just as of 2006!
Have no idea what has been added since then.

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Kansas
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nevada
New Jersey
New York
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Rhode Island
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming

In 2006 vaping was not classified as a tobacco product,, but today the above list is ominous indeed.
Glad I live in Florida..

 

[daviedog]

I have a question:
I know nothing about DIY...I mean NOTHING!! Should I buy some NIC just in case and learn later? I don't know what to do?

Yes,, store in freezer..

 

[ENAUD]

To be fair, Hangsen is the single largest tobacco concentrate manufacturer in the world with probably the most high tech production and RnD facility in the industry. I trust their products more than just about anybody's. And if I can't get those specific flavor concentrates it would be a pretty terrible set of circumstances for me.

I'm in the same boat as you, Hangsen is my go to flavoring company. I have loaded up on a few flavors, hoping that they will last well beyond the expiry dates. Heck, I've used spices for cooking that were well past their date. Worst case scenario I'll extract some flavor from whatever tobacco remains available, or go flavorless. I'm sure wintergreen and spearmint flavor will always be available.

 

[Bob Chill]

I'm in the same boat as you, Hangsen is my go to flavoring company. I have loaded up on a few flavors, hoping that they will last well beyond the expiration dates. Heck, I've used spices for cooking that were well past their date. Worst case scenario I'll extract some flavor from whatever tobacco remains available, or go flavorless. I'm sure wintergreen and spearmint flavor will always be available.

I plan on buying a pile of the handful of flavors I love and break down in small glass vials and refrigerate. I like unflavored and could probably live with it. DIY NETs are an option but man they aren't nearly as clean as HS. I'd be better off going unflavored. I'm a minimalist by nature.

The possibility that I can't sit quietly in the corner of my familyroom and vape HS tobaccos until I die of a non smoking related illness really ticks me off.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

I use all my mods as the mood strikes me. Putting them in an end of the world box just doesn't seem like fun!!!!

You have learned well, Grasshopper...

 

[ENAUD]

I plan on buying a pile of the handful of flavors I love and break down in small glass vials and refrigerate. I like unflavored and could probably live with it. DIY NETs are an option but man they aren't nearly as clean as HS. I'd be better off going unflavored. I'm a minimalist by nature.

The possibility that I can't sit quietly in the corner of my familyroom and vape HS tobaccos until I die of a non smoking related illness really ticks me off.

Have you tried any Tobacco absolutes? They pack a lot of punch in a small portion, and they may hold up for a long time. Coil gunkers though...