On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Yiana]

Lorann is terrible, but I do like their cream cheese icing with Capella's cinnamon danish swirl. That is all. The rest suck.

However, I am not worried about capella, tfa, etc. It may cost more, but I'll just order direct. Now something like tfa ry4 dbl may not be able to make it...

 

[Two_Bears]

Various Provari, Kabuki, Nuti coil stash, various pre-Provavi regulated mod stash, Aspire and Kanger tank collection, 4 liter nicotine, VG, PG, cotton, wire, favorings, RTA's of various types yet to be unboxed (original and clones), bottles, tools and I just wrapped and wicked my first coil. Sweet vape on a Svoe Mini 3 matched with a Provari Mini. Learning to mixing juice is the next step. Good times!

Congrats on first rebuild. Keep it up.

 

[VNeil]

I understand what you are saying but, I do not believe that the FDA will shut FA, PA, Capellas or any of the other food flavor manufacturers down. They are first and foremost food flavor manufacturers.

This has nothing to do with what you believe. Suppose the FDA came out and said that 35% of the food flavorings were being used for DIY vaping (or some other vape related eLiquid manufacturing). Is that not Intended Use?

I'm not saying I think they will or I think they won't. I'm just saying that Intended Use is a very, very VERY dangerous weapon to hand the FDA bureaucrats. I would be surprised if the vaping communiity is not shocked by some of the applications of Intended Use. May not be flavorings, may be some other "accessory".

These are people demanding that eLiquid manufacturers lie and mislead their customers via falsified labeling - they are requiring even 0mg eLiquid to be labeled "Made from tobacco". Logic and reasoning (such as you and many others insist on applying) simply does not apply here.

If you are going to make the simple aggregation of a bunch of GRAS food grade products a criminal act, you can't allow logic or reasoning to prevail.

 

[salemgold]

Think of it this way Salem.

Ejuice us primarily made of VG abd PG.

They could and perhaps may label all flavorings with VG and or PG in it as flavors intended for vaping and yank it off the market.

Do as you choose to stockpile flavors or not.

I will not take that chance. I also will not be flavoring juices with alcohol extracts or Loran oils flavors

Oh, I certainly am not trying to tell anyone what they should or should not do. I am very well prepared and have been for years. Did not think that it was an issue to state my opinion.

 

[Yiana]

Right. Flavorings for water and food are a booming business these days. Probably much more so than we ever thought about using for vaping.

I agree. Especially flavoring water.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I understand what you are saying but, I do not believe that the FDA will shut FA, PA, Capellas or any of the other food flavor manufacturers down. They are first and foremost food flavor manufacturers.

Nope I figure the worst will be that we have to buy larger quantities of flavorings from different sources and maybe have to certify that it is not to be used in vaping.

 

[mikepetro]

....I just wrapped and wicked my first coil.......Learning to mix juice is the next step. Good times!

Wise man!
And congrats, it gets easier too!

 

[Andromendous]

I use Stevia sweetener and Sally Salon coil 100% cotton wicks and my wicks usually last 2 weeks with about 20-30 ml/day vaped in the STM.

Any way you could post a link or share what stevia you use? Always been interested but not sure which ones safe

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I agree. Especially flavoring water.

I use some of my Capella flavor drops in coffee. YUMMY!
but I hate flavored water. Well except for MT Dew

 

[salemgold]

Lorann is terrible, but I do like their cream cheese icing with Capella's cinnamon danish swirl. That is all. The rest suck.

However, I am not worried about capella, tfa, etc. It may cost more, but I'll just order direct. Now something like tfa ry4 dbl may not be able to make it...

Exactly. I see nothing wrong with stating our opinion on the matter so that some others may be able to make a more informed decision as to what is best to do for themselves. No need to stock so much flavoring and be sitting there with old stock when most will be accessible in the future. This is my opinion. We all have one

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Any way you could post a link or share what stevia you use? Always been interested but not sure which ones safe

This but the same brand is available other places.
NuNaturals Pure Liquid™ Clear Stevia™

 

[Yiana]

I use some of my Capella flavor drops in coffee. YUMMY!

Hell yeah. I've seen where they are also marketed towards diabetics who can't have sugar.

 

[Two_Bears]

Lorann is terrible, but I do like their cream cheese icing with Capella's cinnamon danish swirl. That is all. The rest suck.

However, I am not worried about capella, tfa, etc. It may cost more, but I'll just order direct. Now something like tfa ry4 dbl may not be able to make it...

I LOVE pecan Praline flavor.

I used Loran Many moons ago and I kept adding and kept adding sweetener to my Juice and never could get the sweet Rich flavor of Pralines. I finally three the bottle of ejuice snd bottle of horrible flavoring in the trash.

 

[gcvt]

I had a large selection of water based, and oil based flavorings LONG before I ever knew vaping existed.
I am not worried about flavorings, batteries, or spools of resistance wire.

That is the way I'm approaching this as well. Nicotine is my top concern. I did buy a couple batteries locally today, but not to stockpile...just happened to need them. My stockpiling for today was the 2 liters of 100 nic that arrived, along with amber glass bottles for long term freezer storage. As for flavorings, I know quite a few people in the culinary industry so I'm not worried.

Now, about those Marlboro truffles...

 

[Yiana]

Exactly. I see nothing wrong with stating our opinion on the matter so that some others may be able to make a more informed decision as to what is best to do for themselves. No need to stock so much flavoring and be sitting there with old stock when most will be accessible in the future. This is my opinion. We all have one

I agree. I'm not worried about flavorings and they do go bad after awhile. I can understand if people use tobacco flavors though.

 

[Yiana]

That is the way I'm approaching this as well. Nicotine is my top concern. I did buy a couple batteries locally today, but not to stockpile...just happened to need them. My stockpiling for today was the 2 liters of 100 nic that arrived, along with amber glass bottles for long term freezer storage. As for flavorings, I know quite a few people in the culinary industry so I'm not worried.

Now, about those Marlboro truffles...

Nicotine is definitely the top concern. I'm pretty sure it is going to get hit after August 8th. I think they require a license or some such bs.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Still using from a 4 oz bottle of CAP Vsanilla Custard V1 that has been sitting on a shelf over my computer desk for about a year. Still fine. Same with the Vanilla Whipped cream.
The rest of mine are in a fridge though. Yes they will go bad eventually and some brands/flavors sooner than others I suspect.

 

[mikepetro]

IMHO, the only flavorings you should be concerned about are the tobacco based flavors, and any vape branded flavor that you dont know how to substitute. Those you may want to stock up on, however pg based peach and strawberry I woudlnt sweat, they will be around for a long time to come. You might have to go to candyflavor.com to find them though.

 

[Two_Bears]

Exactly. I see nothing wrong with stating our opinion on the matter so that some others may be able to make a more informed decision as to what is best to do for themselves. No need to stock so much flavoring and be sitting there with old stock when most will be accessible in the future. This is my opinion. We all have one

Are you willing to vape unflavored just in case you are wrong?

What we need is for the congress and senate to slap the FDA HARD.

If they fail to act i'm still prepared.

Hope for best prepare for worst.

 

[gcvt]

Nicotine is definitely the top concern. I'm pretty sure it is going to get hit after August 8th. I think they require a license or some such bs.

Agreed. However, I should probably also worry about Double RY4, as you mentioned above. That's my most used flavoring.