On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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Robert Cromwell

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Wasn't nic available before 2007 for scientific and/or manufacturing purposes? And if so, wouldn't it continue to remain on the market?


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yes for scientific and manufacturing. End use consumers is a different matter.
 

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Can someone tell me what is the best way to store nicotine in the freezer? Is it best to store it in the container it came in or do you guys transfer it to glass? What about thawing ?


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Store in glass is the best way,and it doesn't actually freeze,so doesn't really need to thaw,just take out of the freezer,let it come to room temp before opening the bottle.Also,if getting larger amounts,like a liter,break it down into smaller bottles before putting in the freezer,that way,when you take a bottle out,leave it out,you dont want to keep putting it back,then taking it out again.
 
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Store in glass is the best way,and it doesn't actually freeze,so doesn't really need to thaw,just take out of the freezer,let it come to room temp before opening the bottle.Also,if getting larger amounts,like a liter,break it down into smaller bottles before putting in the freezer,that way,when you take a bottle out,leave it out,you dont want to keep putting it back,then taking it out again.

Thanks b.m.

Sounds easy enough and I don't need a rocket science degree or to be a Masterchef contestant to do it right.
 

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No shipping of tobacco products in NM, so I am stocking up on vapes stuff now while I can. When I smoked years ago, I could order cigs online cheap and have then mailed to me, but that ended pronto, one day I tried to order and I got the sorry we cannot ship to your state. This is what I fear with vape supplies, one day we can still order online then next day the hatch comes down! It can happen fast.
Same thing happened here in Arkansas with smokes and now with e-liquid :facepalm: It isn't going to surprise me if it spreads out to all vaping supplies for us.
 

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Can someone tell me what is the best way to store nicotine in the freezer? Is it best to store it in the container it came in or do you guys transfer it to glass? What about thawing ?


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How I store my nicotine may be overkill but it works for me :D
 
This all just sucks lol. I just kicked analogs and started vaping already have spent a .... load just getting started can't really afford to "stock pile".

I am not rolling in cash and believe me, you can do it. :thumb: Even if it's just $50 or $100 per month, make a list of what you need, put it in order of what is likely to be out of reach due to regs and start saving/buying. The shakeout will be over the next two years.

Don't dawdle...get cracking! :blush:
 

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I spent quite a bit this month, but since it's my last big spending spree I just went for it :) Everything could stop tomorrow and I will be fine. I am afraid the crack down in my state could be sooner than later because of the no mailing/ shipping of tobacco products. Boy I really hate this!!
 
NO need to stockpile batteeies. They are needed for power packs used in cirdless tools and in flashlights.

NO need to stockpile VG and PG

NO need to stockpile wicking material

And other items
Ok what do i need to stockpile?

Mods with external batteries good 18650 mods for $35 and up.

A few x-tra RDA or RTA you can get a clone of Silverplay Nano for $12 and up.

Nicotine base. Sometines a liter of 100 mg/ml on sale. A few months ago $24.95 a liter

Real ejuice flavors from TPA, TFA, or High Desert Vapes.

500 foot Kanthal $4.95 a hundred foot.

Literally $500 would let you vape for YEARS.

THERE MAY BE A HUGE MARKET CONTRACTION IN THE US: Don't forget what these FDA regs will do is to cannibalize the existing market. Very few of us are on ECF or similar sites. If 75% of the market goes away within 2yrs due to a contraction in sales or supplies(for whatever reason), then you are not going to be able to get vape goods very easily. Manufacturers and mom and pop retailers may not be able to afford to stay open because they will not have a mix of goods that are attractive to create sales. Reasons for not being able to stay open can be as simple as: the PMTA effects too many of the goods sold by a retailer - who does not even (mix or manufacture) and the remaining goods do not turn a profit.


Save what you can and buy wisely for long term use. If it's $50 or $100 spend it wisely.

Not to debate this but, I've spent 3 times more (than $500) stocking up. Easily. I'll keep right on going until the products disappear from the shelves or become unavailable. If new products come out, I'll buy them if they're worth it, but I doubt they will be much better than what is available right now as long as we shop wisely.

To ME, $500 total would not be enough. 10 to 20yrs of vaping is a long time and I'm buying everything that I can.
 

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THERE MAY BE A HUGE MARKET CONTRACTION IN THE US: Don't forget what these FDA regs will do is to cannibalize the existing market. Very few of us are on ECF or similar sites. If 75% of the market goes away within 2yrs due to a contraction in sales or supplies(for whatever reason), then you are not going to be able to get vape goods very easily. Manufacturers and mom and pop retailers may not be able to afford to stay open because they will not have a mix of goods that are attractive to create sales. Reasons for not being able to stay open can be as simple as: the PMTA effects too many of the goods sold by a retailer - who does not even (mix or manufacture) and the remaining goods do not turn a profit.


Save what you can and buy wisely for long term use. If it's $50 or $100 spend it wisely.

Not to debate this but, I've spent 3 to 5 times more (than $500) stocking up. Easily. I'll keep right on going until the products disappear from the shelves or become unavailable. If new products come out, I'll buy them if they're worth it, but I doubt they will be much better than what is available right now as long as we shop wisely.

To ME, $500 total would not be enough. 10 to 20yrs of vaping is a long time and I'm buying everything that I can.

I agree! No time like the present to get the goods while you can. This could be your last chance.
 
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Well mine are in a fireproof box inside a 3000lb cement firewalled safe filled with my 2nd amendment rights, but you are right I may need to wrap them in rubber also.
My UHF radios are rubber wrapped and as for being a survivalist I believe my 6 8lb buckets of freeze dried meals from Wise and 4 buckets from Mountain house have me set for a while although I did see some new meals I may want to add for my dining pleasure. I even have freeze dried dog food as well as a buckets of water packs and juice drinks;) I think I am set for a while:)

Good on you! On the water front, bagged water can eventually go bad- best case would be to have a filtration device like a Berkey, and plenty of backup filters (which have a shelf life of 25 years as long as you keep em' dry). That way you can turn radioactive apocalyptic rat swamp water into potable liquid for several years if needed- worth filtering out the rats, leaves, twigs, and other large bits before you dump it in the Berkey though, of course :)
 
China pays nothing to export goods to the US. Thus companies such as Fasttech or Apple pay nothing to export the goods manufactured there.

Some US politicians want to charge tarrifs for any goods shipped into the US.

Now since we don't have a country full of workers dying to get their manufacturing jobs back for $1.15/week.. China will continue to be our primary source of e-cig supplies. With or without the FDA's permission.

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock.

If I had your phone no and email addy, I'd call you or email you dozens of docs on what "free trade" and H1Bs have done to our economy.

My background is having lived and worked in Silicon Valley.

The jobs being taken are hollowing out the middle class, not the lower class.
 
Who pays the tarrif?

not Fasttech. not China, not NAFTA. You and I do thats who!

Prep while you can!

It's a little bit more complicated than that.

Trade partners are not paying ANY, AS IN -> ANY <-, import duties, while US manufacturers pay at least 25%+ on all goods exported to their countries. China is a thief in so many ways, I could get my Doctorate on writing abt it. That said, I do buy Chinese goods, but I'm eager to stop them from exploiting markets globally.

When truly FREE TRADE is created by force, then the goods will flow in all directions unimpeded.
 

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Good on you! On the water front, bagged water can eventually go bad- best case would be to have a filtration device like a Berkey, and plenty of backup filters (which have a shelf life of 25 years as long as you keep em' dry). That way you can turn radioactive apocalyptic rat swamp water into potable liquid for several years if needed- worth filtering out the rats, leaves, twigs, and other large bits before you dump it in the Berkey though, of course :)
I have water filters too;)
 
Where did you find it at a good price by the pound at?I checked Temco,and for a pound of 26 gauge,they want $125,i'm not paying that haha,i'll just keep buying it 100' at a time.


TEMCo has a new website, but it is unresponsive at the moment. Use discount code "temco10" (applied in the cart view page on the right hand side) and you will get a 10% discount from anything you purchase.

This is for 1lb of SS 316L it's only $32.98 on their original site, but would be 10% less on their new site. My suggestion is to try the site later in the evening. I'll send them an email. They need more RAM and a faster processor at least on that web server.
 
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