On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Woofer]

The tap/die are all over the place, I have several myself. Did you find any actual "products" made with that thread size other than ecig products? Nobody is questioning being able to buy the tap/die.

I have never looked but if the taps and dies are all over the place they have more uses than ecigs.

 

[satchvai]

5.1cubic ft Freezer came in today and 4 more litres of nicotine tomorrow. Better safe than sorry!

 

[retired1]

I have never looked but if the taps and dies are all over the place they have more uses than ecigs.

And for the minority of advanced users, I'm sure they'll come in very handy when making their own mod. It doesn't, however, apply to the majority of vapers.

 

[Yiana]

And for the minority of advanced users, I'm sure they'll come in very handy when making their own mod. It doesn't, however, apply to the majority of vapers.

Sadly the majority of vapers are going to be screwed. They only heard a water downed version that the media reports. I f you listen to the media reports when the deeming came out you would never know how insane this all is. And those people would be ...... and join up to support the cole-bishop amendment. Unfortunately, they have no idea and are going to freak out when it gets rolled out in August.

 

[Woofer]

And for the minority of advanced users, I'm sure they'll come in very handy when making their own mod. It doesn't, however, apply to the majority of vapers.

Sorry I have no idea how this applies to my point which is 7x0.5 MM threading is not used exclusively in the ecig industry. Joyetech did not "invent" 7 x 0.5 thread.

 

[Rossum]

And for the minority of advanced users, I'm sure they'll come in very handy when making their own mod. It doesn't, however, apply to the majority of vapers.

They might also be handy when the advanced users are fixing the average vapers' broken stuff.

 

[Yiana]

They might also be handy when the advanced users are fixing the average vapers' broken stuff.

Yep! We are all in this together!

 

[retired1]

Sorry I have no idea how this applies to my point which is 7x0.5 MM threading is not used exclusively in the ecig industry. Joyetech did not "invent" 7 x 0.5 thread.

Please show me a commonly used connector that uses that threading and is not associated with e-cigarettes.

 

[Robino1]

If you can show me a commonly used item other than an e-cigarette that uses a 510 connection, I'm all ears. Otherwise, you'll get all the parts easily except for the bit that turns it into an e-cigarette.

The 510 thread is actually "7mm x .5 thread pitch".
"510" is just Joyetechs nickname that caught on everywhere.

Cant find any other common use for that thread size/pitch, and I have looked for years.

"In December 2008, Joyetech R&D Department, led by chief engineer Shiping Yao, launched a new type of electronic cigarette supporting both automatic and manual models, and named it as 510. The name of the 510 has no relative meaning other than a lucky number."

They've been cranking out some crappy proprietary 510s.

Too soon?

Maybe it's time for vape companies to go to the P3 threading.

Just a thought.

Wonder what that threading is used for also.... I have no clue.

 

[retired1]

Maybe it's time for vape companies to go to the P3 threading.

If you do that all the existing atomizers are immediately made obsolete.

 

[Robino1]

If you do that all the existing atomizers are immediately made obsolete.

Adapters maybe?

Just trying to think outside the box.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Vandal]

If you do that all the existing atomizers are immediately made obsolete.

Adapters maybe? We went from PS2 to USB mice, for example, and there were adapters both ways so that nothing was rendered obsolete.

edited to add: great minds think alike!

 

[retired1]

Adapters maybe? We went from PS2 to USB mice, for example, and there were adapters both ways so that nothing was rendered obsolete.

And you're then right back to square one where it's using a connector primarily used for e-cigarettes.

 

[r055co]

The majority aren't going to be modding their own parts in order to make a mod. If it's not readily available (which it won't be), then folks are either going to go with a closed end system or just not try vaping at all.

Claiming the parts for a 510 connection won't be covered is wishful thinking. The FDA ensured that parts were covered under the new regulations. Yes, you can make your own, but the majority aren't going to go through that kind of hassle. If I were looking at starting vaping, and a company sent me a bunch of unfinished parts requiring me to do my own modifications (including making the threads for the 510 connection), those parts would be immediately sent back with explicit instructions on what to do with them.

Yep, it's the reason I jumped into the Mech world. I also got a 1/2 dozen 510 decks for my regulated Mod's.

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[Vandal]

And you're then right back to square one where it's using a connector primarily used for e-cigarettes.

Okay, some commonly used connector with adapter. Would that be possible?

 

[retired1]

If it uses a 510 connection, it falls under the deeming regulations. Doesn't matter if it's an adapter, plate, dodad, thingamajiggy. The FDA has worded the deeming regulation to include e-cigarette parts. And anything that uses the threading found in a 510 connector is pretty much guaranteed to fall under that provision.

 

[skiball]

Exactly. It doesn't matter if companies try to get around the deeming regulations by advertising a 510 connected device as something other than what we all know it will be used for. 510 connections have been primarily used in e-cigarettes and the FDA just needs to wave their magic finger to include them as verbotten.

This is incorrect the 510 was invented for audio use in the 70's. And is still used for that purpose today.

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[retired1]

It may still be in use, but it's not a common connector that you'd recognize as belonging to audio equipment.

 

[skiball]

It may still be in use, but it's not a common connector that you'd recognize as belonging to audio equipment.

But it was in use before 2007 so they can't ban it.

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[retired1]

Not for e-cigarettes they weren't.

Doesn't matter how hard you try to twist it, those connectors weren't used on e-cigarettes until after 2007. And that's what the FDA is going to go by.