RDA Origen v3

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I've been using an authentic v1 for over a year. I purchased a modified center pin so I could use it with my bottom-fed Reo... The only complaint I have with this set-up is that I like having a lot of airflow and I find myself removing the cover to open all the holes when I vape... I was thinking about investing in a v3 because I really do love the Origen, but I don't know if the extra millimeter will make all that much of a difference. Is there anyone on here that has tried both the v1 and v3 and can tell me if it's worth upgrading? Also, does anyone know if anyone is making a bottom-fed mod for the v3, or if I can use the v1 pin mod I have on the v3?
 

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Yep the pins are available for the V3, both in Stainless and Brass. Let me know what RDAs you have - I probably have a clone of one that I can compare it to. On a Mutation X, you'd be looking at the draw with the first hole on, second pair of holes half - 2/3rds open. So like this:

O - Open
D - Half Open
X - Closed

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D X X
O D X
 

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Well I finally got it and I must say its pretty damn impressive!

Looks totally beautiful, air flow is perfect for me and the build quality is very very good.

My first build was a single coil around the 1.3 zone. Average flavor (first ever vert coil build). Second was a duel coil around .85. Decent flavor and huge clouds (which im not that bothered about). Ive now concluded that i need a lot more practise on vert coils lol

I am tempeted to try twisted but need to take small steps at the moment and just figure out the best way to do verts first. Ideally I'd like to have a rock solid single coil set up. Any more pics of your builds on your v1,2 or 3 would be greatly appreciated.

Will be experimenting a lot over the next few weeks but this dripper is defiantly a keeper!! :rickroll:
 

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Threw a couple of quick 24ga duals in the Origen. Have to say, this thing vapes like a dream. I'm thinking a couple of twisted 26ga verts would be awesome... not sure they'd fit through the hole in the positive post though. Maybe twisted 28s.

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Glad you're loving it! I've given all the other big name drippers a fair try over the last year, but the Origen is just in a class of it's own.

I spent a good deal of time on 26g dual verticals exactly as you've got them. 28g twisted is worth a try, it may be very similar or you might notice a big difference. I find that both the V2 and V3 top cap heat up to the point where it's uncomfortable to vape, so I switched to spaced coils - the extra airflow in and around the coil in the spaces makes a huge difference. I'm not sure how much of a part the twisted wire plays in that, but spacing helps immensely.
 
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Well im still experimenting and its getting 'slightly' better everytime. Gonna try with 28 gauge this eve and see what happens. I do wanna persevere with single coils for now as well.

The flavour is now about the same as my kayfuns but im sure I can do better. Like ive said im pretty new to dripping and after 2 failed attempts at drippers ive finally found one i like and will be using it regularly. I just need a few tips on the basics.

How much cotton do you use?
What's the average length you leave exposed from the top of the vert coil?
What cotton do you use? (Ive got both KGD and cellu cotton)
On a single coil do you still cover the second chamber with cotton to soak the excess juice up?
Is it a good idea to maybe leave some cotton on the center screw so when dripping from the drip tip it hits directly onto the cotton wool or is that just a breathtakingly stupid idea?

Even though ive been vaping for almost a year ive concentrated on RTA and haven't paid much attention to drippers hence the noob questions.

Finally heres my set up. Looks awesome on the megan! image.jpg
 

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How much cotton do you use?

In terms of thickness, enough so that it pulls through the coil relatively easily, a small amount of resistance. If you pull a used wick out and it doesn't come out easily, you've use too much. However, the rayon is a bit more forgiving here, it shrinks down a little once it soaks up juice. Even in cases where the wick I've made is way too thick, it seems to work just fine.

What's the average length you leave exposed from the top of the vert coil?

I cut the tops off flush with the top of the center post. The idea here is that the wick above the coil acts as a reservoir. When dry, it pulls juice PAST the coil, so that you're getting juice wicked from both ends, not just underneath. I also leave mine touching the center post.

What cotton do you use? (Ive got both KGD and cellu cotton)

Cellucotton (Rayon). I don't find it tastes noticeably different to KGD, but it's way cheaper. I started using cotton, then KGD, then tried Rayon and never felt a need to switch back.

On a single coil do you still cover the second chamber with cotton to soak the excess juice up?

No, I don't do this in any situation, single or dual. I pull the wick down through the vertical coil from underneath, pull it back outside to cut the tail flush, then tuck it back in so it only just touches the bottom of the deck. The rest of the space inside the juice well is open, no cotton. The wick is just a vertical pillar starting from the bottom of the deck, going through the coil, ending flush with the top of the center post.

Is it a good idea to maybe leave some cotton on the center screw so when dripping from the drip tip it hits directly onto the cotton wool or is that just a breathtakingly stupid idea?

Not stupid at all. If you go back a page and check inswva's pics, I build pretty much identical to that - the only difference being my coils are hard into one corner of the deck opening (as opposed to being centered in the opening), and perhaps a little closer in toward the center post. When juice gets dripped down, if it doesn't touch the top of the wick or the coil, it reaches a choke point between the bottom of the coil, bottom of the center post, and the flat area the negative screw sits in.

That said, I still take my top cap off to fill. I stop when I see surface tension forming in juice well, if that makes sense. The juice level is perhaps 0.5 - 1.0mm below the level of the top of the deck. Go much further and it can leak if you tilt, and it also chokes the vapor off a bit until you vape it down a little.

When you think of wicking the Origen, you should be thinking more of what people do on a Genesis tank (mesh OR cotton), rather than the way most people wick other RDAs by using as much wicking as they can and packing it everywhere.

I'm going to rebuild today, so I'll try take a good series of photos to show how I build mine.
 

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Wow that's really helpfull thank you sedition. By the sounds of it ive been using way way too much cotton. Ive just did a buikd before reading but will defo be using less cotton next time around. I'll take some pics of my next build and post'm.

I did try covering the center post with cotton wool to drip right through the drip tip (again before reading this) but there's not much space left and the cotton was touching the base of the drip tip.
 

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I should have asked what size/resistance your coils are, what wattage you're using, and what airflow holes as well. For reference, My coils are generally 2mm I.D., anywhere from 0.4ohm to 0.7ohm, making it 0.2ohm to 0.35ohm in dual. I use the second largest airhole which is what I find most comfortable. Go to the largest hole and the taste will decrease and vapor increases, vice versa for going to the second smallest hole.
 
Bump to Adee's thread to talk some more about my Origen V2 [HASHTAG]#0995[/HASHTAG]. It's been five weeks now since I got this RDA and for all that time I've had the same twisted single coil in the thing. I love the atomizer and it hasn't left my mod. The other day out of boredom I pulled out the original coil and twisted up a couple 28 gauge Kanthal coils to try a dual build in the Origen.


With my drill I twisted a tight pitch and then wound the wire on a .078" diameter mandrel on a coil gizmo.

I'm using the middle air holes and running it at 30 watts. A bit more warmth, flavor and vapor compared to the single coil set up. I'm digging it for sure.

So Adee how are you getting on with your Origen? Have you tried a dual vertical yet? I recommend it if not.
 

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Twisted always looks so good in a close up photo. Don't forget that you can cut the heat down (if it overheats at all) by spacing the coils. Here's the Clapton I'm using at the moment:

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I've dry burned and re-wicked 6-7 times now, still looks like new, still has that beautiful Clapton glow. 32 gauge over 28 gauge. My previous attempts (28 over 24) couldn't be secured properly.. this one installed perfectly. 0.5 ohms, running around 52 watts. I can't say there's a really noticeable difference compared to twisted, but it's nice for aesthetic purposes. My next build will be using the AFC ring from my Origen Genesis V2 clone. It fits the authentic V3 perfectly, and will allow dual coils both on the same side, as with the Genesis. Perfect for my situation where keeping it tilted in toward me causes the furthest coil to dry out quicker.
 

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I just got my Origen V3 from Intaste a few days ago and wow, shipping from Germany to AR in 3 days is absolutely impressive, props to them.

Been loving this RDA. I originally had an Origen V2 clone and I used it for quite awhile before the positive pin broke on me. Decided to go authentic this time around, and I'm glad I did.

Got a couple of 26g dual coils coming in at .47 on the largest airflow and it's fantastic. The vape is flavorful and smooth, I also like how thing doesn't whistle at all.
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You can get a stainless steel positive pin if you're concerned about the brass snapping in the V3, as well as bottom feeder pins and whatnot. They also come with new lower/upper pieces, handy if you scratch up the top piece tightening it down.

You're spot on about the airflow, it's the main reason I can't spend more than a few hours with any other RDA.
 

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You can get a stainless steel positive pin if you're concerned about the brass snapping in the V3, as well as bottom feeder pins and whatnot. They also come with new lower/upper pieces, handy if you scratch up the top piece tightening it down.

You're spot on about the airflow, it's the main reason I can't spend more than a few hours with any other RDA.

I knew about the bottom feed pin, which I might pick up later to try on my reos. I didn't know about the stainless steel positive pin though, that might be something I'll want to invest in as well. It's nice having options, that's for sure.

And I know what you mean, the airflow on the Origen is perfect for me. I don't know how Norbert does it, but the airflow and draw are just super-smooth.
 
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