Ovale V8 VV discussion!
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I am not really looking at the screen when I hit the fire button, since the v8 is usually headed to my mouth at the time. It did take getting used to though! At first I thought it was showing the watts! lol! And I didn't expect the voltage "in series". With the Gripper, it shows the working voltage after showing the ohms. Took some getting used to (and some quick math calculations). I'm just glad to have it. I don't really miss the ohm checker on the shiny one...but do miss knowing how much power is left in the batteries.
So far i like the v8+.. About v8 without ohm check.. I asked it not turning off... Its weird i took off 510 adapter and it turns of by 5 clicks but if i put the adapter it doesn't turn off or does not fire... I put adapter it keeps setting the volts to 5... If i change the volts to 3 it goes back to 5... Does anyone knows about this issue?
Sorry...I don't know about that, really. I don't use the adapter because I really don't need it with carto tanks or just cartomizers. I have heard something about the older models (like the shiny one) having some sort of "short" issues. Maybe that's what is going on with yours? You could try just using it with stuff that doesn't require an adapter, maybe? I assume you tried both adapters that AVT sent? Without any adapters my "non +" V8 works very well so far (knock on wood). The only clue I can find right now is a remark made by Eric at DV in his review of the original V8: "....they fixed the pesky short that was causing some Segelei's to fail and read 5.0 or just flash. The door has been fixed, it goes off/on easier without a problem."
Maybe your shiny guy needs to be just a back up when you don't need any 520/eGo adapters?
Maybe your shiny guy needs to be just a back up when you don't need any 520/eGo adapters?
Connector is broken, when it goes short it reset device. Look at my post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-ovale-v8-vv-discussion-115.html#post8441092
I open the v8 no loose wires..... I did see connector area in the middle o ring seems to be really squeezed so i popped the middle post and installed again everything is working find but i can't screw vivi nova tank all away down..
If you have the original V8 (shiny w/recessed connector), you'll need an adapter or 510 extender.
Can't blame the Ovale for that one. Those god-awful 510 threads and too long center posts on Vivi Nova's almost ruined 3 of my PV's. If a VN doesn't readily screw onto any device, including a V8, don't mess with it. Just get a short 510 to 510 extender, hope the ViVi screws onto that ok (it usually will) and then dress the whole thing up with a cone (cover) of your choice. You really don't have much other option, short of the ViVi manufacturer producing a better product. I found they didn't screw onto 2 out of 3 PV's or batteries I tried them on. Not very well anyway - or not at all.
Hi. That's not it. All the V8's being discussed in the recent posts have all been coming in with the flush mount, large base connectors. It sounds more like the typical ViVi design problems - they just don't/can't fit very well onto a lot of different PV's or batteries. Some ok. Some... not so much.
My vapemail came from AVT today. And a two for one means that it's a really good deal. Some initial thoughts:
The good:
- They both work
- buttons are easy to push and aren't too loud
- The PWM on both seem calibrated better than the VV Gripper, which hits much higher than the displayed volts. Maybe because it's using 2 18350's versus 1 18650?
- Good feel in the hand, a bit better than the VV Gripper, since the Ovales are rounder
- The rubberized V8+ has a nice feel and the shiny one ain't all that bad either
The bad
- Tight fit of the batteries is awful. With a VV Gripper you can change the battery easily with one hand and blindfolded, easily changed when driving. Not so with these.
- The battery springs are going to be a weak point, one spring in each tend to fold over, even when using a credit card to push the spring down and slip in the battery
- Threads on the V8 without ohms checker are not good, and the 510/Ego adapter that came with it is the same. I have plenty of adapters, so this won't be a problem, but it would be a pain if I were new to vaping and didn't have a box full of odds and ends
- Too bad only the nipple top batteries that came with it connect. I have a box of flat tops that don't work with these
I like the VV Gripper more. Still a great buy, though. I wish a deal like this had been around when I first tried variable voltage, I think I paid $25 for an Ego Twist. This is a much better deal with replaceable batteries and short circuit protection. And I have 2!
The good:
- They both work
- buttons are easy to push and aren't too loud
- The PWM on both seem calibrated better than the VV Gripper, which hits much higher than the displayed volts. Maybe because it's using 2 18350's versus 1 18650?
- Good feel in the hand, a bit better than the VV Gripper, since the Ovales are rounder
- The rubberized V8+ has a nice feel and the shiny one ain't all that bad either
The bad
- Tight fit of the batteries is awful. With a VV Gripper you can change the battery easily with one hand and blindfolded, easily changed when driving. Not so with these.
- The battery springs are going to be a weak point, one spring in each tend to fold over, even when using a credit card to push the spring down and slip in the battery
- Threads on the V8 without ohms checker are not good, and the 510/Ego adapter that came with it is the same. I have plenty of adapters, so this won't be a problem, but it would be a pain if I were new to vaping and didn't have a box full of odds and ends
- Too bad only the nipple top batteries that came with it connect. I have a box of flat tops that don't work with these
I like the VV Gripper more. Still a great buy, though. I wish a deal like this had been around when I first tried variable voltage, I think I paid $25 for an Ego Twist. This is a much better deal with replaceable batteries and short circuit protection. And I have 2!
I suspect the difference in 'hit' between the VV Gripper and the Ovale V8 is in the way the voltage is measured. I think the Ovale volts have about 1.4 x the power of those of the VV Gripper. If you have an atomizer that you like at 4.5 volts on the Gripper, about 3.2 on the Ovale V8 should yield approximately the same hit.
Button Top batteries are in between Flat Top and Nipple Top. They will work in the Ovale V8 and won't hang up trying to get them out as do the Nipple Top batteries.
"Me too!" on this one. Never done a clearo. And the manual sez what's included "...with CE2/CE3/CE4/CE6/510/EGO/EGO-T/EGO-C/EGO-W atomizer"
What I got in the AVT kit looks like a small (3.5 ml) tank carto, except with no apparent way to replace the carto. Hmmm... Ok, I got it tooked apart and what I got is a tank carto setup. But the carto looks a little weird. It has two slots cut into it - instead of punched holes. And the 510 base (flange) on the carto is... looks bigger than a standard SmokTech tank carto. It's kinda nice looking - nicer than a ST tank - but I don't know if SmokTech tank cartos will actually fit it ok. Until I get back to home base (again) to compare cartos I won't know.
Is this what other people got in their AVT kits? It also came with an empty 10 or 15 ml bottle with a blunt tip needle for filling.
My first V8 kits came with CE3's.
I have been slowly going through the stuff I got. (A lot of other "poop happens" to be dealt with right now so ECF and new toys has to take a back seat.) About the threads:
A kinda cryptic e-mail some of us got from AVT mentioned that the reason they were discontinuing the V8 was something to do with the 510 to eGo adapter included with the original kit. Said to just toss that adapter out but the one included on the V8+ should work ok.
Huh?
Ok, going through this methodically I tried the adapter included with the kit on the shiny V8 in the same kit and... yeah, that was a problem. The adapter didn't want to screw on. I got it on about half way and met enough resistance that I didn't want to go any farther.
Tried my trusty old, very well used 510 to eGo adapter on the black V8 - no problems at all. Didn't get any sense of a problem with the threads on the V8.
Tried the problem adapter on my box mod and it screwed onto that just fine.
In that process I got some of my liquid on the threads of this cranky adapter. Tried it again on the V8 and this time it went on easy.
So, my experience is:
The threads on my shiny V8 are fine.
The threads on the adapter included in the V8 kit were a little cranky. Stiff screwing onto the V8. But accidentally getting some e-liquid on the adapter threads was all it took to fix that problem. No need to toss the adapter as AVT suggested.
I'm putting my shiny V8 through it's paces today. Haven't even played with the "ohm checker" model yet. I did notice an odd "whining" sound coming from the shiny V8 the first half dozen times I fired it up. (Someone else mentioned this too.) But that was the beginning and the end of that weirdo noise. It was faint and just stopped altogether so me happy about that.
Really like it in shiny black!
Same here with the adapter. The threads, both inside and outside (the part that screws into the Ovale's 510 connector, are not very good. It does work on my VV Gripper, but is a crunchy and tight thread. I didn't charge my batteries before using them, and I got the whine from my shiny Ovale. Really noticeable as I was getting the "Lo" message and the unit was alternately firing when showing the volts, and not firing when the screen showed "Lo". It just kept cycling through in 2 second increments when I pushed the fire button. The whine doesn't bother me though, I notice the same with my VV Gripper.
I'm so glad that they sent a carto tank, personally! I usually use 6ml ones...but having given hubby all my little 3.5ml tanks (he prefers that size), I am glad to have gotten one. Had I gotten a wick type tank like a CE3...I would have chucked it in the junk drawer or tossed it. I never used a carto with slots but will try it. The Boge carto I put in it seemed to fit okay...if I remember right. Anyone who got the little carto tank with their kit and don't want it..please PM me. Maybe we can work something out?
My VV Gripper puts out the same strength voltage with PWM as the V8. Exactly. They vape pretty much exactly the same at the same volts. I am going to get some 3ohm cartos tomorrow because the 2 ohm I use for my other stuff are really a bit too low. I have to set the VVG and the V8s to 3 or 3.1 to get the hit I prefer.
I love these little V8s! They...along with the VVG...are my main all-day go-to PVs!
Oh yeah...if you need to stealth down the V8, you can cut a strip of elec. tape to fit over that bright screen. Works good. Be careful taking it back off that it doesn't dislodge the screen over the LED though! (easy to put back on, though...no serious worries)
My VV Gripper puts out the same strength voltage with PWM as the V8. Exactly. They vape pretty much exactly the same at the same volts. I am going to get some 3ohm cartos tomorrow because the 2 ohm I use for my other stuff are really a bit too low. I have to set the VVG and the V8s to 3 or 3.1 to get the hit I prefer.
I love these little V8s! They...along with the VVG...are my main all-day go-to PVs!
Oh yeah...if you need to stealth down the V8, you can cut a strip of elec. tape to fit over that bright screen. Works good. Be careful taking it back off that it doesn't dislodge the screen over the LED though! (easy to put back on, though...no serious worries)
Huh. In my case I was in no big hurry so I charged the new kit batteries before I tried anything. And I got the whine with fully charged batteries. It was very faint, and I held the thing up to my ear just to check if it was actually coming from the V8. I've been running all day at a whopping 3.2 volts - no whine. But I just cranked it up to 4.4 volts and - yup, the whine is back at higher voltage.
This whine is very faint so it's not an issue for me. And it doesn't exist at all in the voltage range I normally use. But it does make me wonder what the source of that is. Will keep you posted if it goes away, gets worse, or just changes.
About the threads again: Try putting some e-liquid on the thread and wiping it off and see if that helps. Hey, it's only a $2.99 adapter - but if that's all it takes to get the kinks out of it... If I had a high power magnifier with me I would be putting the adapter under that just to see what the threads look like.
I'll need to check on the whine again tomorrow, once my batts are charged. I had mine set to 4.0 volts and was definitely hearing it, but it was pretty low.
Didn't even notice the carto tank wedged in the bottom of the box. Now the needle tip bottle makes more sense. Icing on the cake!
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