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Rossum

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Yeah, I'll make a few "no-post" posts for what we'll call beta testers. I'm guessing just a handful of people are gonna want to try it. So, good, we few brave men and St. Crispin's Day and what not . . . . ..

1. B2L
2. Gigdujour
3. Bimini Twist
4. Rossum

We gotta have a list, right? :laugh:
 

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I dunno what atty this is, but it's got a very cool center-post:

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I'm visualizing a post like that protruding only a few mm above the Nuppin's deck.

Then again, I might be visualizing whirled peas.

EDIT: It looks to be a Gus Estia.
 
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I'm going to try to ignore the Valentine's Day Origen Massacre pics, so I don't lapse into a state of dysphoric catatonia... I did my second BF build on my v2 Origen. It is now nearly identical in vape profile to my Cyclone running the exact same dual coil 28g 0.6 ohm build.

The trick is to build so that the coils are horizontal and resting right above the well openings, where the juice holes are on the BF center post. That way, juice comes out and falls right on the coils and surrounding wick. With horizontal coils, the juice wasn't feeding effectively.



I tried a few verticals too, don't get me wrong it's not that it don't work, i'm not saying it sucked, it's just that I think it wasn't quite as good to me as my other's no matter how I built it and I'm probably being very picky. I've got several other bf atties and they all just beat this wet deck design to me, on my other atties with the right build I can get it to absolutely perfect vapor and flavor, true bliss delightful vape for a day or 2 till it needs to be rewicked, but this one I always just feel something is just a little bit off, I get a little more throat hit than my other atties too, kinda like the chalice gave me with a Z coil in the center, another setup that does work and many love it too, but just not ideal to me. I also think that extremely fat and tall center post is affecting the airflow too, it's just an odd designed chamber setup that I don't really love.

I love the chalice now that I use it with side mounted coils, it's the best vaping single coil atty I have now and I love the odin and the quasar for duals, both just awesome dual coil atties to me and what I want from a vape. the cyclone with afc was very good but the chamber was a bit tall and that muted flavor a bit when compared to smaller chambers, but when I modded the cyclone to reduce the chamber then it became an atty I can love and gives me a perfect vape too.

maybe I didn't give the origen enough of a chance, I only did like 2 different verticals in it and several other horizontals and slanteds but I guess I know what I like in a bf atty design, and verticals and that deep well just ain't for me. my new design is like a big fat chalice deck, I'm sure it will be a better vape for me and the way I build and now it will feed and retract the fluid correctly with no excess juice pool, it should be a kickass atty when I finish with it :)

and yeah I'm anxious to see if the periscoping drip tip actually tunes the flavor as much as reducing the chamber does... worse case is that it vapes best with the driptip retracted all the way up to the roof of the atty, in that case then it would be the same as any other atty design and my theory would be proven wrong but I really expect the flavor to be tunable with what I'm thinking and if so, the nuppin is perfectly suited to also play with this flavor tuning even with the stubby center pin, I don't see much reason to even go with less than that nub there tbh, the way your deck funnels in towards the center is ideal and the center nub post is about flat with the outer perimeter so to me it's fine just the way it is

I always liked the cyclone posts with the tiny allen key retaining screws too because it minimized the airflow interference, I actually think that my cyclone vaped better with the minimal allen set screws in the posts than it did when I replaced them with big fat phillips heads, a small change like that is something most won't ever think about affecting the vape or maybe even notice but when it comes to airflow and extracting flavor from the coil, everything makes a difference. moving the coil around is only one variable and if you're experienced rebuilding then you can see how dramatic an effect moving the coil even a mm can make, it's obvious that the air inlet and it's position has a dramatic effect, and of course chamber volume does too but these other airflow characteristics I'm talking about also make a big difference and this is how stuff like the kayfun spheroid rose magma immortalizer etc do what they do. I'm trying to duplicate there straight through flow design with a side holed dripper by drawing air flow from between the 2 coils instead of way above them which causes most of the air to be chamber air instead of right off the coil air...
 

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OH, stop it! (or maybe let's stop it at 10, for now)

here's the official:


ST. CRISPIN’S DAY (no posters)

Xobe
4nic8
B2L
gigdujour
rossum
Dan Knight
SkinyFatMan


bear in mind, this is experimental (especially over the longer term . . . . i.e. more than a day or two). What I'm hoping is that, if there is an issue, many minds will bear fruit and we can drive this bus home with a victory under our belts. I'm definitely going to set this up so that anyone who wants to "give up" can readily switch back to the original post.
 
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T-cad, a little clarification: The deck of the atty is technically flat. The inside of the rim (where it meets the deck) slopes in; so, it's not a sharp corner. then the center area (on the one I got) is recessed as well (where the Delrin insulator is) . .. . . .. . . .. with the juice hole in the post below "sea level".
 
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As long as I'm still #2 on the original unofficial list for the Nuppin quite a few pages back, I'm content :lol:

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you talkin bout experimental post?

you just talkin bout the nonexistent list for the as yet nonexistent atties, huh?


. . . . . . J ?


that reminds me . . .. didn't Kogijiki express some interest as well?


ST. CRISPIN’S DAY (no posters)

Xobe
4nic8
B2L
gigdujour
rossum
Dan Knight
SkinyFatMan
Kogijiki ?
 
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you talkin bout experimental post?

you just talkin bout the nonexistent list for the as yet nonexistent atties, huh?


. . . . . . J ?

I think it was the last for non existent atties at the time that was later named the Nuppin. It was right after VH first released photos. Lol.

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Turbo: In the Hero Hybrid the air to the drip tip is pulling from right over the coil and they do a great job. The only drawback is if you get a pop you get a mouthful. You can see from this old photo what I am talking about. The air comes in from the sides of the chamber that screws on over the coil. The tank screws onto the bottom of the chamber and the wick goes down into the tank. I experimented with extending the air in with SS tubing to get the air in closer to the coil and it didn't make any difference unless you moved the coil away from the air hole going to the drip tip, then it did improve it.

Peter: I don't remember if the juice comes up through the same hole you are poking the coil end into, but if it could come in below or beside it somehow you could use the little conical shaped pins to hold the coil like the Hero Hybrid.The holes are 1.5MM in the deck that the pins go into. They work well, but if you drop one in carpet be ready to curse. I have an extra pin if you would like to experiment. They wouldn't be that difficult to make.

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mr. mundy. welcome back to the states. I have frequently thought of conical pins. I had no idea where to source them. I should think that a "no-post" atty should come with about 7 of them (for carpet droppings). 1.5mm hole is totally doable (I'm at 1.4 on the through bore, so expanding the top end would be a walk in the park). I had also thought of drilling a lateral hole for juice, were we to use such conical stoppers. I'm eager to try it. Please do, to send. :D

ADDIT: not difficult to make? Perhaps a length of 1.5mm rod, sharpen the end, nip it, sharpen, nip . . . like 'at?


ADDIT SUMMORE: where my thinking got dead-ended was, if the post is 1-2mm taller to accommodate a juice hole below, and (depending on wire gauge and # of coils) the back end (rearside, tukus) of the conical pin is poking out . . . am I not getting almost as high as with the stubby post and a headless M2 screw that bottoms out flush when capturing wire? If the difference is ~1mm in height, wouldn't it be worth it to have a proper screw and yada?
 
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