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77,136 !!! Five years this petition has been running and all it comes up with is 77,136 signatures
- do you realize that is a pathetically small number? - Might even cause politicians to vote aganst us as they see very few people care.

Thankfully I no longer see solicitations for online petitions - And in retrospect wonder if the petition drives were started by the anti vape people to demonstate how weak politically the vaping lobby is ?

Are there any petitions you know of that actualy got significant numbers of signatures?

Only good side of all this is when they realize vaping was never really that poplar and the epidemic was a fantasy of groups like Bloomberg Philanthropies - Maybe then the control feaks will find something else to latch on to and will leave the vaping market alone ???
 
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77,136 !!! Five years this petition has been running and all it comes up with is 77,136 signatures
- do you realize that is a pathetically small number? - Might even cause politicians to vote aganst us as they see very few people care.

I'd agree except this petition had, I believe, over 440,000 signatures before change. org started deleting them. My only guess at this point is that they have a time period in which the deem the signatures valid and delete them after that. As we've said, we're only keeping this thread alive right because of the pandemic to keep people aware and try to provide a little entertainment.

When @Lessifer started this petition he did so because no one else was doing anything about the attacks on vaping including CASSA. He hasn't been here for two years and I don't even know if he's still alive.

Thankfully I no longer see solicitations for online petitions - And in retrospect wonder if the petition drives were started by the anti vape people to demonstate how weak politically the vaping lobby is ?

The person who started this petition did so because he was very passionate about vaping, despite some forum members who ridiculed him for doing so.

Are there any petitions you know of that actualy got significant numbers of signatures?

The hope had been to get a million signatures on this one. Having hundreds of thousands of signers wasn't bad at all considering how apathetic most vapors seem to be.

Only good side of all this is when they realize vaping was never really that poplar and the epidemic was a fantasy of groups like Bloomberg Philanthropies - Maybe then the control feaks will find something else to latch on to and will leave the vaping market alone ???

They just did, in Texas, against women.
 

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I'd agree except this petition had, I believe, over 440,000 signatures before change. org started deleting them. My only guess at this point is that they have a time period in which the deem the signatures valid and delete them after that. As we've said, we're only keeping this thread alive right because of the pandemic to keep people aware and try to provide a little entertainment.
Well, it keeps me entertained. I look for it any time after 9:00 p.m. MDT
 

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The hope had been to get a million signatures on this one. Having hundreds of thousands of signers wasn't bad at all considering how apathetic most vapors seem to be.
At this point {the FDA is denying all flavors on the grounds that appeal to youth outweighs all other considerations and by the time the PMTA is finished 'prohibition' is possible} it probably would not have mattered - The fix is in and the politicians and the FDA bought and paid for.
Petitions and any and all other legitimate techniques are useless against an agenda driven by money that does not have to answer to anyone.
 
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At this point {the FDA is denying all flavors on the grounds that appeal to youth outweighs all other considerations and by the time the PMTA is finished 'prohibition' is possible} it probably would not have mattered - The fix is in and the politicians and the FDA bought and paid for.
Petitions and any and all other legitimate techniques are useless against an agenda driven by money that does not have to answer to anyone.

When I saw the flavor ban on the deeming thread a couple of days ago I couldn't think of anything to say that wouldn't get me the ban hammer. :rolleyes:

Yep, most of them have drunk the magic Kool-Aid. And don't forget the BT payoffs (settlements) to the states. There are people on our side, just not enough of them. It's very frustrating watching this slow-motion train wreck. I hope, somehow, in the long run, we can come out on top and vaping can continue to save lives.
 

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Well, it keeps me entertained. I look for it any time after 9:00 p.m. MDT

I meant to thank you for your comment. I'm glad you're enjoying it, as I assume others are too, and chiming in sometimes too! :)
 
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