Petition to prevent FDA regulations

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Huntsvappin

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Needs a lot more signatures

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/us...igarettes-accessories-and-associated/RQLBYRsd




[h=1]Prevent the FDA from regulating or banning the sale and use of electronic cigarettes, accessories and associated liquids[/h]The FDA has repeatedly stated its intent to propose a “deeming” regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes. But Sections 905 and 910 would ban all e-cigarettes, and other provisions of Chapter IX would also decimate the e-cigarette industry, protect cigarette markets and otherwise threaten public health. The FDA should NOT propose or approve any regulation that would deny cigarette smokers legal or affordable access to less hazardous smokefree alternatives. ~ Bill Godshall
E-cigarettes and associated accessories and liquids are less hazardous than cigarettes and can reduce the risks of smoking. With the use of these devices millions have successfully reduced the use of cigarettes. Don't let the FDA deny us access to these alternatives to smoking.
 
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DC2

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Severe nicotine strength limitations combined with the banning of flavors would render electronic cigarettes nothing more than novelties.
Also the potential to eliminate all products that were not on the market prior to 2007 would be a huge issue.

So while not a ban, the effect would be just about the same...
And still allow the FDA to pretend to be the good guys.
 

Vocalek

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I'm not seeing much language in FSPTCA regarding banning nor electronic cigarettes. Where specifically is that located?
I don't see how it is plausible to prohibit the FDA from regulating nicotine products in all their various forms, but am interested in learning from others how they think that could happen.



FDA’s announcement, “Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other tobacco Products,” signed by CTP Director Lawrence Deyton and CDER Director Janet Woodcock, cites several provisions of the law that the Agency intends to apply to “other tobacco products” (including e-cigarettes). Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products

Section 201(rr)(4), for example, prohibits the marketing of a “tobacco product” in combination with any other article or product regulated under the FD&C Act (including a drug, biologic, food, cosmetic, medical device, or a dietary supplement).

This is disturbing, as it indicates that the FDA may continue its efforts to ban e-cigarettes by using the argument that e-cigarette liquid is being delivered in combination with a battery and atomizer.

The Agency intends to propose a regulation that would extend the Agency’s “tobacco product” authorities in Chapter IX of the FD&C Act, which currently only apply to certain specifically enumerated “tobacco products,” to other categories of tobacco products that meet the statutory definition of “tobacco product” in Section 201(rr) of the Act. The additional tobacco product categories would be subject to general controls, such as registration, product listing, ingredient listing, good manufacturing practice requirements, user fees for certain products, and the adulteration and misbranding provisions, as well as to the premarket review requirements for “new tobacco products” and “modified risk tobacco products.”

Registration, product listing, ingredient listing, and good manufacturing requirements are reasonable controls. However, most e-cigarette companies are small businesses that cannot afford the level of user fees levied on huge corporations. The mention of premarket review requirements for “new tobacco products” sends up a red flag.

“Tobacco products” marketed as of February 15, 2007, which have not been modified since then are considered “grandfathered” and are not subject to premarket review as “new tobacco products.” A “tobacco product” that is not “grandfathered” is considered a “new” tobacco product, and it is adulterated and misbranded under the FD&C Act, and therefore, subject to enforcement action, unless it has received premarket authorization or been found substantially equivalent. FDA has already developed draft guidance explaining how manufacturers can request a determination from FDA that a “tobacco product” is “grandfathered.”
These provisions of the Tobacco Control Act were written to prevent the proliferation of hazardous combusted tobacco cigarettes. In view of the fact that e-cigarettes are not combusted and are innovative products likely to be much less hazardous, applying these inappropriate controls would have the effect of outlawing all except for the first primitive models which had leaky cartridges, batteries that died too quickly, and other quality control issues.

Nothing within the deeming announcement even hints at the idea that the CTP will be tailoring regulations to fit these innovative products. Applying them all exactly as written would decimate the e-cigarette industry. The effect on consumers would be devastating, creating a public health crisis instead of helping to solve one.
 

Vocalek

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Note: My previous post is an extract from the written comment on Sec. 918 that CASAA is submitting.

I just realized that although the audience (the people who must write the report to congress on Section 918, all of whom are FDA employees) for this will understand what I meant by "continue its efforts to ban e-cigarettes" I am referring to the FDA history.

Late in 2008, the FDA issued an import alert that had Customs begin seizing shipments of e-cigarettes coming in from China. The Agency claimed that these were unapproved drug and/or drug delivery device combinations. They would not be allowed to be sold until the manufacturers completed the New Drug Approval process. The NDA process is what pharmaceutical companies must go through to get a new drug or medical device approved. The requirements are substantial, starting with molecular studies, cellular studies, animal testing, human testing and then randomized clinical trials. The process takes on average of 8 years to complete and can cost up to a billion dollars--and after all that, the FDA can turn you down.

Early in 2009, one of the largest vendors at the time, Smoking Everywhere filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, asking for an injunction against the product seizures. Shortly thereafter, Soterra, Inc. (d/b/a NJOY) joined as plaintiff. The plaintiffs argued that their product was not intended to treat a condition. E-cigarettes were intended to be used as a replacement for smoking.

In July, the FDA held a press conference that was intended to frighten and inflame the public. They announced that they tested 18 samples from two companies (What a coincidence....they happened to be the SAME two companies that were plaintiffs in the case against the Agency.) The FDA said they found detectable levels of "carcinogens" and toxins, including Diethylene Glycol, "an ingredient used in anti-freeze." Of course, they didn't bother to mention that the type of carcinogens are the same as those contained in FDA-approve nicotine patches and gum. They also did not bother to specify how much. But we knew from other research that the quantity in a ml of 16 mg liquid is about 8 nanograms (parts per billion) and furthermore this is equivalent to the quantity in a nicotine patch. The only toxin mentioned in the lab report was 1% of Diethylene Glycol. In a gram of liquid, that would be about 10 mg worth, a quantity that has never been shown to cause injury. [NOTE: That press release is still posted, with no correction, no updates, and no apology from the FDA - http://www.fda.gov/newsevents/newsroom/pressannouncements/ucm173222.htm]

The Judge finally ruled in December, against the FDA. The FDA appealed, and then the Appeals Court upheld the lower court ruling. The FDA appealed again, asking the Appeals Court to hear the case again, in front of the entire set of 9 judges, rather than the 3 judge panel. The Appeals Court turned them down. The only place left for the FDA to go would have been the Supreme Court, but they wisely decided to stop wasting taxpayer dollars fighting this losing battle.

Between the time that the case was filed and the judge rendered his opinion, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act was signed into law. In his opinion document, Judge Richard J. Leon, of the district court advised the FDA that e-cigarettes could only be regulated as a drug if the vendor made health claims. Otherwise, if the FDA wanted to regulate the products it might do so using the Tobacco Act, which defines a "tobacco products" as a product made of or derived from tobacco.

If the FDA had won that court case, we would not be having this discussion today. The FDA would have continued to seize product imports and driven the industry out of business here.

But we don't trust the FDA to "regulate" e-cigarettes as tobacco products with the best interests of the health of smokers in mind. They have given no indication that they even care about helping adult smokers. We should just quit or die.

If I'm wrong about that, please point out something on the FDA site that tells you we will be getting a fair shake.
 
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Petrodus

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Nothing within the deeming announcement even hints at the idea that the CTP will be tailoring regulations to fit these innovative products. Applying them all exactly as written would decimate the e-cigarette industry. The effect on consumers would be devastating, creating a public health crisis instead of helping to solve one.
You can just imagine my surprise (sarcasm)
 

GrillSgt

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Needs a lot more signatures

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/us...igarettes-accessories-and-associated/RQLBYRsd




[h=1]Prevent the FDA from regulating or banning the sale and use of electronic cigarettes, accessories and associated liquids[/h]The FDA has repeatedly stated its intent to propose a “deeming” regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes. But Sections 905 and 910 would ban all e-cigarettes, and other provisions of Chapter IX would also decimate the e-cigarette industry, protect cigarette markets and otherwise threaten public health. The FDA should NOT propose or approve any regulation that would deny cigarette smokers legal or affordable access to less hazardous smokefree alternatives. ~ Bill Godshall
E-cigarettes and associated accessories and liquids are less hazardous than cigarettes and can reduce the risks of smoking. With the use of these devices millions have successfully reduced the use of cigarettes. Don't let the FDA deny us access to these alternatives to smoking.

Thank you Huntsvappin for posting the link to the petition I submitted and posted in the New Members forum. Everyone needs to sign this!
 

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Copy and paste this into your facebook status...certainly cant hurt. Feel free to make revisions on how long youve been without a stinky etc.

Need help from my friends. I was a HEAVY smoker of 30 years @ 2 packs a day before finding electronic cigarettes. Electronic cigarettes have 4 chemicals in them..Cigarettes have over 4000 and I havent had one in over 3 months. Please consider signing the petition below to stop the FDA from banning this life saving device.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/use...iated/RQLBYRsd
 
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