PLEASE stop recommending RBAs and RDAs to beginners in the Newbie Forum
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Trying to help someone who is new to something requires patience.
Those who can't be bothered typing out entire words might want to ask themselves if they have the required patience.
I see a lot of people suggesting that we listen to what is being asked and respond appropriately.
And I see other people saying that we should maybe even ask some questions to get a better understanding before offering suggestions.
Of course, these people are 100% right.
And good luck with that.
I used to get really frustrated back when I was spending all my time in the New Members subforum.
People would actually be telling new members what nicotine strength they needed without even knowing how much they smoked.
And I see other people saying that we should maybe even ask some questions to get a better understanding before offering suggestions.
Of course, these people are 100% right.
And good luck with that.
I used to get really frustrated back when I was spending all my time in the New Members subforum.
People would actually be telling new members what nicotine strength they needed without even knowing how much they smoked.
Everything in excess, always.... I want the best. I want it now. I want it at the best price.
SQUIRREL!
Oh C'MON!! We're way past that:
WE WANT IT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Errrr. you mean like, 2 millimeter diameter electrical wire on a 1/4 inch drill bit? Oh, yeah I can do that!
But 30 guage wire (hair thin) on a 1/16 inch drill bit??.. hold on a sec:
Let me get my glasses
1: glasses; dang; let me try this other pair; dang; maybe I have to go to the optometrist and pay $500 for prescription lens instead of just buy 10 pairs of $5 glasses from the pharmacy........ duh.... nah; I'd stick with the $5 glasses.
Let me get some tiny screwdrivers
2: those attys are so small, you can't use regular size screwdrivers; you need tiny jeweller/watchmaker size screwdrivers.
When a guy and put together an RBA using his normal household or car tools, THEN you got a REBUILDABLE.
I recommend RBAs, RDAs, and mech mods to beginners. I also inform them of them having a little more mainenance assosiated with them and have the potential to be a tad more dangerous than a regulated device with a clearo. Why should the B&Ms not try to sell their gear to whoever wants to buy it, of legal age of course. When it comes down to it, its still a buisness.
With cars, for every kid who likes modifying them and fixing them, there's 10, 100, and 1000 more people who'd just rather DRIVE the damn thing and would rather not have to fiddle with how it works.
It's the same with ecigs; and more particularly, theres a whole generation of SMOKERS out there who just might quit the smokes if they saw a viable alternative with ecigs; there's MILLIONS of them out there, and they are spending Millions a week on smokes, and that money is driving the industry.
It's the same with ecigs; and more particularly, theres a whole generation of SMOKERS out there who just might quit the smokes if they saw a viable alternative with ecigs; there's MILLIONS of them out there, and they are spending Millions a week on smokes, and that money is driving the industry.
Let's lay out a few business plans....
1) Smoke shop, sells a 3 pack discount with a free lighter to their customers.
2) Vape shop, sells an eGo w/ CE4 or pack of cartos combo at a discount, with a free 10ml bottle of juice.
3) Vape shop, sells a mech mod and advanced RDA, free kanthral and ecowool wick
A week later....
Smoke shop is doing brisk business with additional sales or cigs, first vape shop is doing brisk business selling additional cartos and bottles of different flavors, second vape shop is playing video games on their andriod because their customers have put the gear in a drawer for "maybe sometime in the future"
Which would you want to invest in as a business......
I think you forgot
4) Vape shop, sells a mech mod with RBA with 0.4 ohm coil with 18630 batteries to an 18 yr old kid who'd dad happens to be a lawyer; the kid gets injured, his dad sues the shop, and the shop is out of business and the owner is still facing possible criminal charges and hoping to settle out of court.
Or #3, shop doesn't see customer again because they liked the RBA and Mod, but bought a lifetime supply of wick and wire on ebay for $5 and doesn't need anything else. OR said customer comes in twice a week to chew the yarn because they don't need to buy anything. OR said customer comes in twice a week and asks "What's new?" and buys all the shiny things.
I try to convince my friends to buy a top coil, a bottom coil, a carto tank and a rda.
Variety is the key.
If you have a device that checks ohms rda is freaking easy as hell. I dont get the fuss.
I dont recomend mech mods to a new user. Maybe if they got a kick for it, it would be fine.
Cant tell you how many times i sit mine on the counter without locking it and you hear this hiss, oops.
It took me ten mins to learn the concept of building coils.
I currently have a few rda's on the way to teach some of my sons friends who are into vaping.
They are 19 and 20. The local vape shop refused to help them, i think its BS.
if some one is willing to take the ten mins to learn, they should be taught.
Its not freakin rocket science.
Bottom line, imo it is the mech mod that doesnt check ohms, that has no cut off protection, that is easily fire with just placing on the counter if you forget to lock it, that is more of a danger than teaching some one to build a 2 ohm coil for their itaste to have a better dripping rxperience and to taste test new flavors.
Variety is the key.
If you have a device that checks ohms rda is freaking easy as hell. I dont get the fuss.
I dont recomend mech mods to a new user. Maybe if they got a kick for it, it would be fine.
Cant tell you how many times i sit mine on the counter without locking it and you hear this hiss, oops.
It took me ten mins to learn the concept of building coils.
I currently have a few rda's on the way to teach some of my sons friends who are into vaping.
They are 19 and 20. The local vape shop refused to help them, i think its BS.
if some one is willing to take the ten mins to learn, they should be taught.
Its not freakin rocket science.
Bottom line, imo it is the mech mod that doesnt check ohms, that has no cut off protection, that is easily fire with just placing on the counter if you forget to lock it, that is more of a danger than teaching some one to build a 2 ohm coil for their itaste to have a better dripping rxperience and to taste test new flavors.
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I remember the my first trip into the local B&m to start my vape journey. I walked in and nervously looking around my eye caught sight of the case with all the nice shiny brass and chrome mod's and fancy rba's, The sales guy walks over and asks if I need help. I say yea, I'm new and looking for something to quite smoking. He says Don't even look at that case!! You aren't ready for that yet. He gets me set up with a twist and a carto tank. I sampled a few tobacco flav. juice and off I went. I am very grateful for his advice, as I probably would have quickly tired of trying to figure out how to use advanced equipment and been back to the cigs.
i know i may be a rareity or mabey itjust because i am a very mechanicaly inclined person who is acustomed to rebuilding and fixing things, but man ohh man....i wish i could go back in time and for my verry first mod , buy a mechanical and a sweeet rda !!!
i was recomended a hundred differant ego type devices when what i was looking for was a sweet mech and an rda ! i didnt know thats what i was looking for till i found it but i was !
the only reason i found abou mechs is because i saw how my ego worked and tried to make a mech out of a trustfire cree flashlight ! apon more research i discovered high end mechs !
now like i said ... i was recomended ego's and twists and tanks for months and i feel i wasted hundreds of dollars on crap because i was not satified till i picked up a mech and a rda !
i know for a fact that i could have bought a mech right off the bat as my first mod and had a good coil and wick going in less than 1 hour !!!! i know i am a minority but there are other people out there like me who are skilled with there hands and mechanicaly inclined and are capable of seting up a mech and running it just fine as a first mod ! i mean heck i made my own mech by turnning down a trustfire 18650 flashlight i had on a lathe !! only 1 month into vaping and before i discovered mechs and modding forums !!!!
i was recomended a hundred differant ego type devices when what i was looking for was a sweet mech and an rda ! i didnt know thats what i was looking for till i found it but i was !
the only reason i found abou mechs is because i saw how my ego worked and tried to make a mech out of a trustfire cree flashlight ! apon more research i discovered high end mechs !
now like i said ... i was recomended ego's and twists and tanks for months and i feel i wasted hundreds of dollars on crap because i was not satified till i picked up a mech and a rda !
i know for a fact that i could have bought a mech right off the bat as my first mod and had a good coil and wick going in less than 1 hour !!!! i know i am a minority but there are other people out there like me who are skilled with there hands and mechanicaly inclined and are capable of seting up a mech and running it just fine as a first mod ! i mean heck i made my own mech by turnning down a trustfire 18650 flashlight i had on a lathe !! only 1 month into vaping and before i discovered mechs and modding forums !!!!
ohh i forgot to mention lol........... when i actualy found a vape shop about a month into vaping ... back then i had a flashlight mech mod and rebuilt kanger t3..... i walk in and they have everything under the sun well acsept for mechs and rda rba ! lol i was upset to say the least cause i came to the shop to see mods ! well the guys who run the place were great guys and they were all using mechs provaries and genny and rda style attys, but did not sell that stuff in the shop ! i asked why they didnt sell it and they told me the average joe just wants something that you through juice in and it works all day no problem.... so we carrie carto tanks and ego twists and clearo's and sutch... i asked them if they were going to carry mods and rba's any time soon and they said they would think about it.... well evry time i went into that store i got to know them more and more and kept on asking and now they carry all types of rbas rebuiling suplies and mods ! after they started carrying rba's and mods they got a mutch larger customer base and had to expand in less than 1 year !!! they now have 2 location !!!!!
before the store moved and swapped to 2 new locations one of the final things they did was hold a in store co-op for the russian 91% at discount price for there customers !!! what an amazing shop !!!
all it took was 1 determain and loyal customer for them to pick up a small amout of a few rda / rba's and a couple mods and the buisness exploded ! shortly after they sold those mods and rda's real quick ! i believ it was 5 i taste mvp v1 and 5 svd's and a couple agi's and igo's lol they sold them in like 2 days lol
my mvp v1 ran flawlessly since the day it came out and was sent to the store for me to pick up
before the store moved and swapped to 2 new locations one of the final things they did was hold a in store co-op for the russian 91% at discount price for there customers !!! what an amazing shop !!!
all it took was 1 determain and loyal customer for them to pick up a small amout of a few rda / rba's and a couple mods and the buisness exploded ! shortly after they sold those mods and rda's real quick ! i believ it was 5 i taste mvp v1 and 5 svd's and a couple agi's and igo's lol they sold them in like 2 days lol
my mvp v1 ran flawlessly since the day it came out and was sent to the store for me to pick up
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Oh. My. Word! 8-o
"It's not safe, but . . . it's GOOD for you!" (Yes, he really said that!
)Doggone idgit unemployed millenials with way too much time on their hands, and not much sense: gonna ruin vaping for ALL of us!
i totally agree with not recommending rba's/rda's to beginners. if i started with an rda like i use now, i probably would have given up on vaping quickly
Yes, this is the reason we don't have more battery accident injuries. And the flat packs were li-po chemistry which is never used in mechanical mods that I'm aware of. But every once in a while when things come together just right it can all go wrong.
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