Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

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If it is limited by the choice of either the Feeder/rba or the dna 20D module, I would choose the dna 20D module.

That's what I decided on as well, but then I don't have an atty that will fit flush with the mod. Oh well, if the choice is between aesthetics and performance, I'd choose performance any day
 

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You mean this toy that arrived this morning?!! (We have an automatic Bar feeder for it too, its about 8 feet long and feeds bar in from the access door seen on the left of the machine(a shockwave is sitting above it), but it won't be in for approx. another week). I'll post up a Vid of it in action once its all up and running! Hope to be Running some Precise ELA parts by later next week!!!!

This is a Haas ST10Y, with Live Tooling (powered tooling for those who don't know) and Y axis, for off center milling, drilling tapping etc. It also has a parts catcher, tool presetter and Chip conveyer, that with the Bar feeder, means we'll have fully automated production!

This is a big win for both Super T and the customer alike as it will virtually eliminate out of stocks, allow us to manufacture many more products (and take on outside machining jobs too) and most importantly, allow us to take new products from conception to prototype to full production in only a matter of days! We'll also be getting in a CNC Milling Center too around spring time which will allow us to do even more complex 3D milling operations. Lots of exciting products will be rolling out of Super T soon, so stay tuned!!

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WOW!! Sweet!! A HAAS, that prolly set you back a few bucks!!:ohmy:
 

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I'm so sorry Riverboat, i know i said i'd machine those up two weeks ago and still haven't yet, i promise to come into work this weekend and machine them.:)


That will be awesome - can we see a pic of them on the PV, I need to see how they look before ordering.

Also, just saw a pic in 18650 mode - does that inner tube have to be brushed/satin or can it be more on the shiny side like the outer part of PV
 

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That will be awesome - can we see a pic of them on the PV, I need to see how they look before ordering.

Also, just saw a pic in 18650 mode - does that inner tube have to be brushed/satin or can it be more on the shiny side like the outer part of PV

Dave, as far as I know, David has mentioned that the telescopic tube will have the same finish as the outer tube. This would be my first "non-satin" PV by Super-T. I'm very anxious.


Good to see you here, bro.
 
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Ditto on that. A bit late to the party, but this thing looks beautiful (and probably even more beautiful with brass, amiright?). I'd been looking for a good telescoping mod and the ELA sort of blew my expectations and my entire wish list out of the water. Can't wait!

Never to late to the party, unless the food's run out and the beer is gone! The brass does add some bling, i agree!
 

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I just wanted to raise a quick question or two regarding the Feeder/RBA for the ELA.

Will this RBA module be of the Genesis (SS mesh) type?

What sort of juice capacity do you estimate it will hold (assuming its a tank)?

EDIT: These questions are merely for planning purposes and not to dig too deep on your design ideas. :)

About 5ml, i have three different feeders/rebuildables in various stages of development. Not sure on the SS wick, maybe on one of them.
 

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Well, as I understand it, these modules will be made to screw into the threads where the original top cap would be. I'm assuming there may be a "daisy-chain" type of setup.

If it is limited by the choice of either the Feeder/RBA or the DNA 20D module, I would choose the DNA 20D module.


David, can you confirm this?

You are correct, the DNA module and RBA/Tank are integrated, screw on in place of your top cap designs. They are not a universal fit. Could you put the RBA on top of the module, probably not, it would get aweful long, but we'll see how compact it all ends up, its a possibility.
 

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Also, just saw a pic in 18650 mode - does that inner tube have to be brushed/satin or can it be more on the shiny side like the outer part of PV

This is a very good point. I was under the assumption that the inner tube would have the media blasted finish (probably for scratch resistance). But is the real intent to match it to the body's finish? Or will the inner tube always be media blasted by default?

I for one like the way the "two-tone" looks as pictured and have ordered it as such already. If there will be the option to choose the finish on the inner tube, I would like to see a picture with the polished inner tube as well. I might change my mind. :)

Bottom line....if there is a choice for finishing the inner tube, I'm sure we all would like to see it so we can make an informed decision as to which finish(es) to choose.
 
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I believe I read that the center tube had to be that way so that the locking ring would hold firm and not have the potential to be slide possible. Aren't the accent rings suppose to cover that....and can you order enough (like an extra set) to completely cover that area, even in 18650 or 18650+Kick mode?
 

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You are correct, the DNA module and RBA/Tank are integrated, screw on in place of your top cap designs. They are not a universal fit. Could you put the RBA on top of the module, probably not, it would get aweful long, but we'll see how compact it all ends up, its a possibility.

I'll cross my fingers that the possibility gets real, but in case it can't, could the DNA 20 module be designed so that it slants towards 22mm?
You could offer a choice of style for the top cap, the original one as well as the DNA 20 - the standard (no slanting), slanted to 22mm, slanted to 20mm, etc.
One other thing: I don't understand how the design works, but will the adjustable draw and the adjustable center pin work if you exchange the original top cap with the DNA 20 module, or any other add-on that replaces the original top cap like the RBA or drip mode?
 

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I believe I read that the center tube had to be that way so that the locking ring would hold firm and not have the potential to be slide possible. Aren't the accent rings suppose to cover that....and can you order enough (like an extra set) to completely cover that area, even in 18650 or 18650+Kick mode?


Wow ! +1 Crypto. Your answer makes much more sense than my rushed one now that I've reread the thread :facepalm:
 

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Supposed to be 35 degress today :) Tshirt weather! Whats the weather like in your neck of the woods wongster?

Currently 55 degrees and wet! I grew up in Bloomington and spent about 5 years up in the taconite range in Virginia (north of Duluth) :D


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To help answer some questions:

1. There won't be a slanted top for the ELA, flat only.

2. Will the DNA module accept the top cap of the ELA so it uses its adjustable hybrid pin? That i don't know yet, still in the design phase of the DNA20 add on module.

3. ELA extension tube. It's so darn sparkly because the prototype is of aluminum, the final version will a more of a flat brushed stainless and match much better then the prototype pic. Mirror finish won't work, it'll just scratch from going in and out. Technically, it can be any finish you want to finish it too, it won't affect the locking mechanism, but you'll need to finish it yourself if you want it anything other then the flat brushed stainless it will be delivered as.
 

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Thank you David, this information is most helpful!

EDIT: I just knew there was something different in the video that just didn't add up. The sound that the ELA made when the smaller battery was swapped.... to me it didn't sound like SS all around. Makes sense now that you pointed out that it was aluminum.
 
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I believe I read that the center tube had to be that way so that the locking ring would hold firm and not have the potential to be slide possible. Aren't the accent rings suppose to cover that....and can you order enough (like an extra set) to completely cover that area, even in 18650 or 18650+Kick mode?

the tube will lock good with any finish :) I suppose one could double stack accent rings in 18650 mod, though i may make a one piece option 18650 only accent tube. Kicking it around anyway. :)
 

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the tube will lock good with any finish :) I suppose one could double stack accent rings in 18650 mod, though i may make a one piece option 18650 only accent tube. Kicking it around anyway. :)

I endorse the idea to add more rings versus an 18650-only accent. Just seems like it would be easier for those who swap different batteries often.
 
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