Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

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raqball

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its been a while im at 155** what work order #'s are being sent now? its getting sad. :(

This is what David posted yesterday in the update thread..

Got a couple more to finish today on thru 15288 that will ship today. Later today (it'll take a few days to get them all out) we will start working on through 15331 and you should receive tracking numbers shortly as Kevin is printing up the labels now.
 

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Wrap coil on a drillbit/nail/whatever, mount the coil, pull the ekowool through. Making a clean cut (nail clippers) and moistening the end helps it not fray as you try to get it into the coil; or you can use a bit of tape then cut the taped end off once its through. The diameter of the coil should be big enough to get the ekowool through but small enough that it drags a little. Another benefit is that it's easy to pull the wick, dry burn the coil, then feed in a brand new wick (or the old one, for that matter).

Woah I didn't know folks actually went through this to wrap their kayfuns ? I use 1.5 mm bamboo wick and 30awg like I would any other atty but using a lil more length on the wick so it sticks up about 1/4 inch above the top of the cylinder cut off the excess tuck the wick in the channels, adjust coils right above airway and your done. Not a tough build at all : )
 

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Woah I didn't know folks actually went through this to wrap their kayfuns ? I use 1.5 mm bamboo wick and 30awg like I would any other atty but using a lil more length on the wick so it sticks up about 1/4 inch above the top of the cylinder cut off the excess tuck the wick in the channels, adjust coils right above airway and your done. Not a tough build at all : )

I agree and I feel the same way about micro coils. Far too much trouble! I do a 5/4 wrap on a figure 8 and call it a day..
 

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Raqball Even the figure 8 is over complicating something that does not have to be complex to work great. If you cut two 1 1/2 inch pieces of at least 2mm thick wicking material hold the two pieces together wrap your coil and run the excess wick up the chimney cylinder and cut to leave 1/4 inch above the chimney cylinder it will fit perfectly in the channels and not block any airway. I've used 2mm ekowool put together 2mm bamboo wick and silica wicks and everyone has been spot on. I can run about 35ml worth of juice between wick changes too. I love these darn things lol.
 

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Raqball Even the figure 8 is over complicating something that does not have to be complex to work great. If you cut two 1 1/2 inch pieces of at least 2mm thick wicking material hold the two pieces together wrap your coil and run the excess wick up the chimney cylinder and cut to leave 1/4 inch above the chimney cylinder it will fit perfectly in the channels and not block any airway. I've used 2mm ekowool put together 2mm bamboo wick and silica wicks and everyone has been spot on. I can run about 35ml worth of juice between wick changes too. I love these darn things lol.
You saying i should not be shoving the wick down into the bottom part? That is all i have ever done. I thought this would help with wicking.
 

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As I promised, ELA with the new brass ring and my brass and stainless tip Ive had in my drip tip box waiting to be used

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You saying i should not be shoving the wick down into the bottom part? That is all i have ever done. I thought this would help with wicking.
I think he's saying to cut it off 1/4" above the tube and then shove it down in.
My first failed attempt I cut it off flush at the top of the tube - that was too short (as if I had any juice in there to wick). Then I made a figure 8 type of affair which works well but seems pointlessly complex. Next time I'll just cut it off at 1/4 as per Covert.
 

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Yeah builds for the kayfun are easy, I notice I have more trouble with complex builds. Stuff to much in the chamber and dry hit haven! I tell people just get it out of the threads, don't worry about compacting it down in the chamber. You sure don't need a lot of ekowool or silica to get adequate wicking. 2 strands of 1.5mm, about an inch to an inch and a half is what I use.
 

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Woah I didn't know folks actually went through this to wrap their kayfuns ? I use 1.5 mm bamboo wick and 30awg like I would any other atty but using a lil more length on the wick so it sticks up about 1/4 inch above the top of the cylinder cut off the excess tuck the wick in the channels, adjust coils right above airway and your done. Not a tough build at all : )

I always needed to use something like a thin nail to keep the wick firm (and provide expansion space) when wrapping the coil anyway. So, at least for me, doing it this way is actually easier since I don't have to try to hold the nail and wick together while wrapping the coil. Trimming/tucking is the same either way. Doesn't have to be a "micro" coil in the many-touching-wraps sense - and if you aren't doubling the wick I bet you'd find the inside diameter of the coil to be on the smallish side even when you wrap the wick directly. A 2mm drill bit I've found is perfect for "Twik" (ekowool with a cotton core), so that's outside of micro-sized.

I don't actually have my Kayfun Lite, yet. First one arrived empty envelope, subsequent order with a different vendor should arrive tomorrow. But that's how I ended up coiling for my term-c before I sold it, which is where the re-wicking without re-coiling aspect was particularly handy.
 

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I found it to be easiest to wrap my coil around a screw. Then install on the deck. Followed by threading ekowool through the coils using a wire hook ( 26g wire about 1 inch with a hook at the end). I usually end up with 4 strands in between the coil. This method you don't waste wick and you can always re wick when needed.
Figure 8 wastes too much wick to build. And you can't re wick a figure 8.

Pick the right screw, like a self-tapping wood screw where the threads are widely spaced, you could use the thread channels as your guide for perfect coil spacing, once done with wrapping just unscrew and wallah a perfect coil lol. I think cleaning and reusing the wick is for a select few, most probably just replace it.
 

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Raqball Even the figure 8 is over complicating something that does not have to be complex to work great. If you cut two 1 1/2 inch pieces of at least 2mm thick wicking material hold the two pieces together wrap your coil and run the excess wick up the chimney cylinder and cut to leave 1/4 inch above the chimney cylinder it will fit perfectly in the channels and not block any airway. I've used 2mm ekowool put together 2mm bamboo wick and silica wicks and everyone has been spot on. I can run about 35ml worth of juice between wick changes too. I love these darn things lol.

Consider the figure 8 the engineer's approach to wicking. Conventional wicking as you describe above provides for 2 wicking paths to the coil, the figure 8 provides 4. We've all seen the ad with the little kids, more is better :)
 

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No your good Com76. After you have given the wick a haircut of sorts poke the wick into the channels like I said "it will fit perfectly in the channels and not block any airway" and your good : )
You saying i should not be shoving the wick down into the bottom part? That is all i have ever done. I thought this would help with wicking.
 

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My method still provides 4 paths (and in my case 12 due to using bamboo wick) it just doesn't have those stupid loops that take forever to get to the right size lol. Basically once you have the figure 8 coiled cut both of the loops in half and you have my setup. Engineers approach is always the most over complicated method that some hillbilly mechanic like myself finds a faster way to complete. Might not look great ,but it darn sure works lol
 

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My method still provides 4 paths (and in my case 12 due to using bamboo wick) it just doesn't have those stupid loops that take forever to get to the right size lol. Basically once you have the figure 8 coiled cut both of the loops in half and you have my setup. Engineers approach is always the most over complicated method that some hillbilly mechanic like myself finds a faster way to complete. Might not look great ,but it darn sure works lol

Can't quite visualize that, got a pic?
... My method still provides 4 paths (and in my case 12 due to using bamboo wick ...
 

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I'd say just do whatever works for you.. I can make a wick and coil in about 2 minutes.. It never looks pretty but it works great!

I do a figure 8 with a 5/4 wrap and pop it on. Adjust the loops and the coil spacing and rock it! My coils don't look sexy but they work great.

I won't change how I do it even if there is a better way because I can knock out a new coil in a matter of minutes and it wicks and works just fine for me..
 
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