Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

[forcedfuel50]

What brand battery and size are you using? Protected or IMR?

Is the single oring that came presintalled under the battery in the bottom of the battery tube intact and in place?

It almost looks in the picture like you have a washer on the screw in button post, if so, remove the washer.

Do you have a picture of the adjustable center post bottom I could check out to make sure its all ok (the side facing the battery)

Other then that, mechanical mods, isn't much to go wrong, they are just two pieces of metal mashing together to complete a circuit. The only reason they usually wont' work is if they get dirty (or problems in the battery or atomizer).

If the above checks out, The only other thing for you to do is send it in and let us take a look at it.

Send to:

Super T
Box 331
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379

 

[Sklarzo]

What brand battery and size are you using? Protected or IMR?

Is the single oring that came presintalled under the battery in the bottom of the battery tube intact and in place?

It almost looks in the picture like you have a washer on the screw in button post, if so, remove the washer.

Do you have a picture of the adjustable center post bottom I could check out to make sure its all ok (the side facing the battery)

Other then that, mechanical mods, isn't much to go wrong, they are just two pieces of metal mashing together to complete a circuit. The only reason they usually wont' work is if they get dirty (or problems in the battery or atomizer).

If the above checks out, The only other thing for you to do is send it in and let us take a look at it.

Send to:

Super T
Box 331
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379

The batteries I am using are

Orbtronic High Drain 18650 2900mAh NCR18650PD Hybrid Li-ion

MNKE IMR18650 3.7v Li-MN Rechargable Battery

I have checked the O-ring, it seems to be nice and snug in the bottom of the tube.

Those pictures werent mine, so there are no washers on the screws for me

I will have to wait until I get home from work to upload a picture of the adjustable center post bottom for you to look at.

I really appreciate you working with me here. I think before I resort to sending it off to you, I might order some new batteries to try first.

 

[raqball]

There seems to be many reasons why it floods out the air hole.
Like I told Cucco, even if it's user error, a leaky atomizer is unacceptable to me. Leaking under any circumstances is stupid.

There are really only a few reasons why the KFL will leak out of the air hole and most are user error.

I don't mind if an atomizer leaks because I messed something up. I can learn and or adjust to stop the leak.

Unacceptable to me is if it leaks because of a design flaw. User error can be corrected, design flaw can't be.

I don't use my KFL anymore and it's been collecting dust for over a month now. My reasons for not using it have nothing to do with it not performing though. My reason is because it's to big, heavy and bulky for what I want..

 

[snork]

I disagree. A tank atomizer should not leak. It contains liquid, which should be the foremost design concern. The user should not be at the mercy of designers who seem to be incapable of making something leakproof while continuing to crank out $100-$200 atomizers and preying on our desire for something that WORKS.

 

[raqball]

I disagree. A tank atomizer should not leak. It contains liquid, which should be the foremost design concern. The user should not be at the mercy of designers who seem to be incapable of making something leakproof while continuing to crank out $100-$200 atomizers and preying on our desire for something that WORKS.

Nothing is immune to user error.. Nothing.

As far as the KFL goes, I had ONE leak out of the air hole and it was my fault not that of the KFL.

If the manufacturer says 'do it this way' and I decide to do it a different way then how is that the fault of the device?

Lets say I don't screw the chimney down and I have issues. How is that the fault of the device? IMHO is not, it's my fault..

My .02

 

[vaptamist]

What if it says sorry afterwards and looks embarassed?

 

[snork]

What if it says sorry afterwards and looks embarassed?

Not good enough.
You'll all have to put up with me. I'm testy about a lot if things right now.
The user error part isn't the issue. It's the fact that in the majority of cases we seem to accept that we need to contort our lives to accommodate these things. That's BS. If David's atomizer leaks I'll have just as severe problem with that.
I'm not a machinist and I don't want to make atomizers. This is all easy for me to say. But I'm also not charging big bucks for crap that leaks.

 

[raqball]

Not good enough.
You'll all have to put up with me. I'm testy about a lot if things right now.
The user error part isn't the issue. It's the fact that in the majority of cases we seem to accept that we need to contort our lives to accommodate these things. That's BS. If David's atomizer leaks I'll have just as severe problem with that.
I'm not a machinist and I don't want to make atomizers. This is all easy for me to say. But I'm also not charging big bucks for crap that leaks.

I'll bet you 4 cents that I can make any RBA or RDA leak.. I am sure the Super T one will be top notch, no doubt but if it has a way to hold juice, if it has o-rings, if it has a wick and coil that need to be rebuilt and if it has removable parts then I can guarantee you that it will be prone to leaks if used, setup, or refilled improperly..

I get your frustration but this is the case with everything on the planet. Nothing is foolproof..

I've had every RBA / RDA that I have ever owned leak at some point. In every single leak instance it was my fault. I am not defending the KFL because like I said mine is sitting collecting dust but you can't really hold a manufacturer at task if the device is used improperly.

Sorry this has gotten way off topic as I was only trying to help Cucco with the leak issue..

 

[fordski]

What if it says sorry afterwards and looks embarassed?

Then it would be a Canadian atomiser...

 

[raqball]

I am going to bow out of this one..

Cucco here is a link to the KFL user guide. It has suggestions for leaks and other issues..

Hope it helps!

Kayfun Lite - User Manual (English)

 

[ragnarokstar]

On the rare occasion my KFL leaks, I find it works if you keep the airhole pointed upward and just keep on vaping until the excess juice gets used. It's just a flooding issue like any other atty. They all do it.

 

[snork]

I am going to bow out of this one..

Cucco here is a link to the KFL user guide. It has suggestions for leaks and other issues..

Hope it helps!

Kayfun Lite - User Manual (English)

Why bow out? I'm not arguing with anyone and I hope everyone has complete success and satisfaction with whatever they choose. But don't you think it's time that we call a spade a spade and admit how stupid it is to have to do some of the things we're required to do? Keep it vertical, turn it such and such, do this, don't do that, ad nauseam.
I can count on one finger the tank-ish rebuildable atomizer I've ever tried which is user friendly, the Spheroid. Ody and Penelope are next on the totem pole. The rest suck.

 

[raqball]

I have a Spheroid and I've had it leak out the top and the bottom. Both were my fault. Can't comment on GG stuff because I avoid it like it has the plague.

My Divers leak but when they do, it always my fault. I've had a few leaks with the KFL, again they were my fault.

I've never had a carto tank leak. But if I didn't put o-rings on it (read: user error) then they would leak as well.

I'm not implying that you were arguing. I was simply trying to help Cucco with the KFL.

If I buy a car that takes regular gas and I decide to put diesel in it how is that the manufacturers fault when it breaks down? User error..

 

[vaptamist]

Raqball, can I just go ahead and blame you when my Kayfun leaks?

$&@@!!$$&& raqball! Juice everywhere! Sigh

 

[raqball]

Raqball, can I just go ahead and blame you when my Kayfun leaks?

$&@@!!$$&& raqball! Juice everywhere! Sigh

Yup.. It's always my fault.. Just ask my ex-wife!

LOL

 

[snork]

I aware that all rebuildables are "advanced user devices" and user error is an obvious major factor in many failures. I would call myself a very tenacious advanced user and have decided it's my perfect right to blame my failures on the devices. I'd like everyone to be just as irritated as I am so some genius will come along and end this madness.

 

[raqball]

I aware that all rebuildables are "advanced user devices" and user error is an obvious major factor in many failures. I would call myself a very tenacious advanced user and have decided it's my perfect right to blame my failures on the devices. I'd like everyone to be just as irritated as I am so some genius will come along and end this madness.

 

[Cucco]

How did you fill it?

If you filled by removing the top cap then that's why it's flooding and leaking out of the air hole.

No, I used the bottom fill.

 

[vaptamist]

I'm on the fence. I think it's a design flaw to allow too much room for user error. User error can never be fully mitigated, but it's the job of a responsible designer to minimize it to the greatest extent possible.

 

[raqball]

No, I used the bottom fill.

When vaping it are you accidentally blocking the air hole with a finger?