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[rbrylawski]

At least they get to have a little run around before you cook 'em!

Actually, he and his friends are now in a bag in the fridge waiting till they meet the steamer later this afternoon. As long as they are cold, they can breath on their own for hours.

BT and BG will never get another cent from me ... I've been Vapocalypse vaping for a couple of years now.

However, I do feel for all the smokers and vapers who are about to be cut off at the pass

I may not be as vapopocalype ready as you, but my local vape store, has promised me they will black market juice to me for years to come if the government does the bad deed. Whether the Kabuki's will be able to stay in service with the need for Nauty coils is subject to concern, but I have the KFL+'s and Russian 91% and enough cotton and kanthal to last for years and years. I think I'll be OK either way.

That said, I have to have hope our government will not do something so heinously evil. And if they do, the lawsuits that will ensue will take years and years for this to be fully resolved.

Special interests can be very powerful as has been proven many times. We will be harmed, only if we allow ourselves to be harmed and I for one will not take this lying down. I think I know at least a quarter million (not personally) ECF vapors who won't as well.

 

[rbrylawski]

BTW, today is Tim's (ThePaladin) Birthday!

I don't know if he'll see this, but a very happy B-Day to you Tim!!

 

[WillyZee]

I hope that works out for you SR ... not many legitimate businesses will break the law to retain revenue.

 

[rbrylawski]

I hope that works out for you SR ... not many legitimate businesses will break the law to retain revenue.

It's not that he'd be breaking the law for revenue. We've become friends and he'd be helping out a friend. Big difference.

 

[BreSha6869]

BT and BG will never get another cent from me ... I've been Vapocalypse vaping for a couple of years now.

However, I do feel for all the smokers and vapers who are about to be cut off at the pass

I am the same. I have a few litres of NIC in the freezer that should last me somewhere between 10-20 years. If the proverbial $h!t hits the fan, I will buy anther 2-3 litres. I have no concerns with access to cheap PG/VG/flavourings and I have a dozen Provaris. Unless big brother is watching, I will be happily vaping on the super cheap for decades.

I do feel sorry for people potentially being forced to buy gas station cigalikes and heavily taxed ejuice though.

 

[BreSha6869]

I hope that works out for you SR ... not many legitimate businesses will break the law to retain revenue.

And all is moot if the business closes their doors. I don't know many B&Ms that will stay in business if even a portion of the proposed legislation and high levels of regulation become a reality. Selling under the counter black market ejuice, the odd mod and some $40-50 30ml bottles of overtaxed juice is not something that is sustainable for many IMO.

Interesting times coming in any case. I am very thankful that I enjoy making DIY juice and my juice tastes better than most $15-20 30mls of store bought.

 

[WillyZee]

It's not that he'd be breaking the law for revenue. We've become friends and he'd be helping out a friend. Big difference.

I also have some friends I have introduced the ProVari to ... they have all quit smoking in favour of vaping.

Some of them only vape eLiquid I supply them with ... however, when we get very close to the real Vapocalypse, I will advise them to prepare exactly as I have done. I will not be able to stock for everyone.

I honestly believe the Vape Industry is about to change drastically ... where nothing is available, other than high priced cigalikes.

 

[BreSha6869]

Some of them only vape eLiquid I supply them with ... however, when we get very close to the real Vapocalypse, I will advise them to prepare exactly as I have done. I will not be able to stock for everyone.

That's funny. I do the same thing and last week I told two friends that I make juice for that they better start buying NIC and figuring out DIY before I pull the plug on their supply. As soon as my ability to go into a B&M for funzies and buy $10-15 30ml bottles or order 100mg litres of NIC for under $100 goes away, them bastiches are on their own.

I personally don't care right now as I would offer free juice all day long to any of my friends that want to quit smoking. Hell, a 30ml costs me under $2 so it's not about the $$$... it's about availability moving forward.

 

[jwbnyc]

I Really don't want to get into diy.. but I might have to depending on where we are going with this.

Mainly, it's about space constraints and convenience. I don't really want to be playing around with 100mg nic, either.

 

[WillyZee]

I don't post about this often ... however, I believe the whole Clouds Bro hobby aspect of vaping has attracted way too many youth to vaping.

and, I'm talking about young people who would never of picked up smoking

I don't need flawed studies to confirm this ... I can see this happening with my own eyes.

 

[BreSha6869]

I don't post about this often ... however, I believe the whole Clouds Bro hobby aspect of vaping has attracted way too many youth to vaping.

and, I'm talking about young people who would never of picked up smoking

I don't need flawed studies to confirm this ... I can see this happening with my own eyes.

I hate to say I agree, but I agree.

We both live in the GTA and if one walks into almost any vape shop in Toronto, they will see teenagers/20-somethings blasting clouds everywhere with their 0.00001ohm 200w mods dripping One Hit Wonder.

Not stereotyping and I hate sounding like an old crotchety bugger but this is frighteningly accurate IME. I have lost track of how many soccer moms I have seen walk into a B&M, look around for 10 seconds and run out of the store without spending a dime.

This is the real face of vaping to most non-vapers. Not normal adults trying to quit smoking.

Just my $0.02 in any case.

 

[ENAUD]

I also have some friends I have introduced the ProVari to ... they have all quit smoking in favour of vaping.

Some of them only vape eLiquid I supply them with ... however, when we get very close to the real Vapocalypse, I will advise them to prepare exactly as I have done. I will not be able to stock for everyone.

I honestly believe the Vape Industry is about to change drastically ... where nothing is available, other than high priced cigalikes.

I am also thinking that is the direction the allowed market will go. There is too much money being raked in and greedy BT has been rubbing their hands together plotting how to get it back for a long time now. Those folks have long range goals and the money to see them through.

RB, you are fortunate to have a friend like that, not many folks do. The majority of folks will be left high and dry if / when the SHTF, if they haven't properly prepared. I'll be laying pretty low myself if things take a very bad turn. I have a feeling that high mg/ml nicotine could come under some hefty scrutiny down the road. Best to lay low and ride out the storm if the going gets rough.

 

[BreSha6869]

I Really don't want to get into diy.. but I might have to depending on where we are going with this.

Mainly, it's about space constraints and convenience. I don't really want to be playing around with 100mg nic, either.

A couple of litres of NIC broken down into 50ml and 100ml bottles doesn't take up too much freezer space suprisingly. Also, I have a 3 year old daughter and just ensure I am careful or she is in bed when I do up a batch of juice.

I've got the entire juice making process down to a few minutes anyways. Not very dangerous if you are careful. I don't bother with a mask or gloves and I rarely spill a drop.

 

[ENAUD]

I Really don't want to get into diy.. but I might have to depending on where we are going with this.

Mainly, it's about space constraints and convenience. I don't really want to be playing around with 100mg nic, either.

I didn't want to get into DIY either, and was also leary of handling 100mg nic, so I started out with 36mg/ml nic instead. I only handle 100mg/ml about once every few weeks to a month. I mix down the 100 mg/ml to a 6.3 mg/ml base 238 mls at a shot. Then I just use the base as is, and make smaller bottles of flavored with it till it's gone. My all day vape flavors I'll shoot the nic and make a 100ml batch, but for messing around with 15 or 30 ml bottles, I can't be bothered to deal with the 100mg stuff. For me it's easier to just work with my pre diluted base...it's easier and more accurate.

 

[ThePaladin]

BTW, today is Tim's (ThePaladin) Birthday!

I don't know if he'll see this, but a very happy B-Day to you Tim!!

Thank you Sir Rod, MoL!

 

[Enta]

Happy Birthday Tim!

 

[scotdc]

A couple of litres of NIC broken down into 50ml and 100ml bottles doesn't take up too much freezer space suprisingly. Also, I have a 3 year old daughter and just ensure I am careful or she is in bed when I do up a batch of juice.

I've got the entire juice making process down to a few minutes anyways. Not very dangerous if you are careful. I don't bother with a mask or gloves and I rarely spill a drop.

The whole danger aspect of DIY is overblown. You don't need lab coats and masks, and if you're doing it for yourself you surely don't need a ISO certified clean room. I've even spilled a drop or two of 100mg/ml nicotine on my skin without any harmful damage at all - I just rinsed it off and they were no burns or irritation at all. You're right, just keep it locked up from the young ones and wait until their in bed and all is well.

 

[WillyZee]

@ThePaladin

Happy Birthday Tim

 

[BreSha6869]

The whole danger aspect of DIY is overblown. You don't need lab coats and masks, and if you're doing it for yourself you surely don't need a ISO certified clean room. I've even spilled a drop or two of 100mg/ml nicotine on my skin without any harmful damage at all - I just rinsed it off and they were no burns or irritation at all. You're right, just keep it locked up from the young ones and wait until their in bed and all is well.

True. I make mine on my kitchen counter. I put all of my stuff on a paper towel in case I spill something which is rare. We aren't talking Dexter style prep here.

To make it even easier, I have been making my favorite DIY juices in 100ml batches. If I want 6mg, I add 6ml of 100mg NIC. If I want 12, I add 12ml, etc. 100mg makes math pretty simple, but I use Steam Engine just to get my PG/VG ratio right.

Pour 100mg NIC into your eyes or take a big sip, you'll know it... but a little drop on the skin has never hurt me and likely won't cause discomfort to the average person unless they neglected to wash it off.

Anyone that is hesitant re: DIY should sit down with someone that does it. Once one sees how easy it is, how cheap it is and how good the juice can be, I can's see many not wanting to give it a go. YMMV, etc.

 

[classwife]

@ThePaladin



I use 100mg nic to mix with.
When I make up a batch of base I make it at 5mg.
I just use an empty juice bottle and mix up 1000mls at a time...it only takes 50ml of the 100mg for that. Then if I want something flavored I just take from there and come up with something 3-4ish.
Having a stash of +2500mls of 100mg nic in the freezer...I am kind of ok for a while.