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Leak they can, oh yeah. I had trouble with these for the longest time.
1. Make sure your coil sits about 1.5mm above the air hole, too close and the absorbed juice will leak down the air hole.
2. Stuff it with a good amount of cotton. Cotton will shrink as it sits saturated in the atty, so make sure you have some resistance when you pull the fresh cotton through the coil. Not so much that it moves the coil when you pull it, but enough to where you feel some resistance.
3. The major problem I had was leaking through the fill screw, not much but enough to when you set your atty down for the night there was a noticeable film of juice on the bottom of the tank the next morning. These nylon pan screws helped solve the problem almost completely, be sure to use the o-ring that's on your fill screw with these as well. Nylon 6/6 Pan Head Machine Screw, Black, #1 Phillips Drive, M2.5-0.45 Thread Size, 6 mm Length, Fully Threaded, USA Made (Pack of 100): Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Just another thought that probably won't affect Provape, but many of the smaller businesses we all use for supplies at the moment. From my understanding this is affecting businesses that bill less than $50,000 per month.
I guess smaller vape businesses are starting to have their credit card processing systems shut down. Now that vaping products are considered "tobacco" products MasterCard, Visa, and Paypal will not process credit card orders for them and the credit card processors are cutting the vendors off. The site that posted about it was MyVapeJuice.com or something like that, but it appears that we may have less time than we originally thought to stock up, especially if our favorite vendors are smaller.
I guess smaller vape businesses are starting to have their credit card processing systems shut down. Now that vaping products are considered "tobacco" products MasterCard, Visa, and Paypal will not process credit card orders for them and the credit card processors are cutting the vendors off. The site that posted about it was MyVapeJuice.com or something like that, but it appears that we may have less time than we originally thought to stock up, especially if our favorite vendors are smaller.
I'm only aware of one that was shut down (then opened with another processor quickly thereafter). Are there others that you know of?
Just the one I mentioned MyVapeJuice.com, but I think they have a work around for now too. Just thought I'd mention the credit card thing because that was something that took me by surprise - I didn't think of that happening.
I can't see CC companies shutting down business that can't hit $600k/yr in CC billings.
$50k a month in CC billing and above would be about zero Canadian vape shops and likely much less than 10% of US ones. A hugely successful vape shop in Canada would do about $2k US a day and a lot of that in cash for obvious reasons. Most would do $400-600/day.
The way I'm understanding this is that it's standard policy for most credit card companies (and Paypal) not to authorize transactions that deal in "tobacco" sales, I know I was experiencing issues a couple of years ago when I was buying cigarettes online. We've enjoyed the luxury of being thought of as an alternative to smoking in the past, but now vaping products of any kind are clearly classified as tobacco products, so I'm curious how this will play out in the immediate future.
Now I'm not an expert and I'm only getting my information from one source about the larger businesses that do more than $50K are somehow being exempted or that some processors are willing to take a risk for that larger amount. I can not say this with any certainty at all.
Just something to keep an eye on... that's all. I certainly hope it's business as usual for the next couple of years at least.
@Katdarling mentioned it to me over two years ago (April, 2014 is exactly when we began stockpiling). She said, "How hard would it be? All they need to do is shut down the credit card processing. BOOM! We're done. It'd be over right then & there."
The words still ring in my ears. Talk about prophetic...
And scary!@Katdarling mentioned it to me over two years ago (April, 2014 is exactly when we began stockpiling). She said, "How hard would it be? All they need to do is shut down the credit card processing. BOOM! We're done. It'd be over right then & there."
The words still ring in my ears. Talk about prophetic...
I keep thinking I'm starting to accept the inevitable, and then it slaps me in the face again. Found mention of this on another thread today. 
http://blog.provape.com/fda-ruling-threatens-largest-u-s-vape-hardware-manufacturer/
http://blog.provape.com/fda-ruling-threatens-largest-u-s-vape-hardware-manufacturer/
Sad times, by the sound of things...I really want to believe that sound minds will prevail, and something will change the course of things in progress. Once done, things get so very complicated and difficult to undo...Curses upon the evil souls who are perpetrating this miscarriage of justice, may they suffer eternal torment and anguish as justice for their deeds. They know what they do, and don't care...protectors of public health
I keep thinking I'm starting to accept the inevitable, and then it slaps me in the face again. Found mention of this on another thread today.
FDA Ruling Threatens Largest U.S. Vape Hardware Manufacturer - ProVape
Those of us that enjoy and have a couple (or a couple dozen!) Provape devices are at least well prepared to weather the storm. I hope the deeming date move forward plays out for all vapers and Provape as well. High quality businesses making high quality products is what America needs more of, not less.
We need Provape and Halo for future vaping converts. Yes we do!
We need Provape and Halo for future vaping converts. Yes we do!
I've already seen problems with vaping and credit cards and it wasn't even due to an outright ban.
A while back some major vaping products sites were seeing their customers' credit card information compromised. Personally, I was hit three different times with three different cards. And one of the companies is among the very largest, and in this case the problem went on for a very long time after it came to light.
During the uproar online over this train wreck, people were researching and some vendors stepped forward with additional information. According to them, it was very difficult for a vaping products company to be approved by the mainstream credit card processors since the entire industry was considered to be less than desirable. Though they're not the same as a dedicated card processor, think of Pay Pal (along with eBay for that matter).
I'm not sure if their stance was due to the imagined tobacco relationship, too many chargebacks, or something else. Regardless, more than a few companies verified they had been turned down simply because of the nature of their business. And to be honest, there was no doubt some who went to the smaller processors just to cheap out.
So they had to turn to second or third tier processors who were not nearly as large and respected as the leaders. Those companies accepted a lot more fringe companies, but for either their relative lack of funds or just indifference, they were not known to have security measures anywhere near the top tier.
For some reason I'm being overly lengthy today, but the point is that huge pressure has been put on the vaping world in regards to accepting credit cards, and I wouldn't be surprised to see even more in the future. As if we needed more doom and gloom.
'Working It Out' with the Tobacco Barons
I found this article to be quite thought provoking, considering the current situation with vaping, the FDA, the MSA's, and the relationships between the big players. Considering the high hurdles placed on getting any products approved, will history remember the actions of the FDA as being nothing more than the agency acting as hired thugs to do BT and BP's bidding in destroying their competition?
I found this article to be quite thought provoking, considering the current situation with vaping, the FDA, the MSA's, and the relationships between the big players. Considering the high hurdles placed on getting any products approved, will history remember the actions of the FDA as being nothing more than the agency acting as hired thugs to do BT and BP's bidding in destroying their competition?
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