Producing large vapor clouds

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The thing to remember with any atty, especially RBAs is F.A.C.T.: (wick)Feed, Airflow, and Coil Temp. You can get clouds with just about any set up, but there are physical limits. I've seen some decent clouds from guys using a 306 or a .357 but they don't come anywhere near the dual coil sub ohm bored out RDAs. So all you need to remember is that there is a balance, you need fast wick feed, open but balanced airflow, and hot coil temp. This T.O.V.E. (triangle of vaping efficiency) is raised or lowered to suit your gear. The guys getting big clouds bore out their airholes (around 2mm), have super hot coils (around .6 or less ohms) and use really fat wicks to deliver juice fast enough to not starve their wick and coil.

I read all the time vapers who wonder why their 2.5 ohm whatever isn't giving a big clouds even if they push the volts up on their mod, all they get is burned taste. It's not one thing but all 3 factors that dictate vapor production. Their 510 connector breathers (atties that get their airflow through holes in the 510 connecter) just can't supply enough air over their single strand 2mm silica no matter how many volts they pump through the coils. It's simple physics.

I can get good clouds off a fresh clearo, and it may look impressive on a pict, especially when the light source is infront of the cloud to make it look more opaque than it really is. But it isn't close to that warm thick milky london fog pea soup cloud you get from a dual coil dripper with a fat coil with twin 2mm airholes. True, the more VG you use the thicker it is, and Ive always been a VG vapor; I don't give a crap about throat hit (being a hookah enthusiast for a couple decades, I know what real clouds look like and if you get throat hit from a hookah, you are doing it wrong, heh), But I can get decent clouds from a 50/50 mix; the gear is more important than the liquid mixture in production. And yes, I dropped my nic from 18 to 6-8mg since cloud chasing. And the stuff about not getting a desirable flavor from big clouds, that would be a big false. Again, it's about your set up. On a dual coil, I make a U shaped squid wick and get way way more flavor than I ever got on a Vivi/clearo/atty/etc. So if you do all your research, understand the inherent dangers and take the necessary precautions, get rid of the mouth draw mentality, and kit up with the right gear, you will no longer be asking "how do I get big clouds", but rather "why hasn't someone told me about this sooner?!" haha cheers mate.
 

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Not bad for 70PG/30VG (its from wordupecig.com, strawberry cheesecake, Vamo/Protank 3.4V on a 1.8ohm Evod head. At this point ive found i get even bigger clouds with that same Protank/Evod on a mech, or a boge carto in an AGR tank on an Evic at 6.8W. Its like a 2 foot by 2 foot cloud rolling across my living room.


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This video = Vaping .........!

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:confused: and the point of that was??

I mean I understand some cloud to help when transitioning from smoking to vaping....
don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the vape and can actually vape out nostrils whereas when I smoked I couldn't do that without setting off my allergies...but just cuz I don't always see a cloud doesn't mean I'm not vaping...

I guess I really just don't get it...is it a man thing?
lmfao now I could understand blowing cloud rings...that's talent and fun...but just clouds seems like a waste of a good vape.
 

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:confused: and the point of that was??

I mean I understand some cloud to help when transitioning from smoking to vaping....
don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the vape and can actually vape out nostrils whereas when I smoked I couldn't do that without setting off my allergies...but just cuz I don't always see a cloud doesn't mean I'm not vaping...

I guess I really just don't get it...is it a man thing?
lmfao now I could understand blowing cloud rings...that's talent and fun...but just clouds seems like a waste of a good vape.

yep.... As Tj999... said:

Huge Clouds = Wasted Juice
 

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I heard that those who do produce those clouds have nic strength lower than 6mg, I have no knowledge on this subject other than safety concerns.

since they vaporize more juice, sub-ohm coils deliver more nicotine per unit time than more traditional methods. i had to step down from 18 to 12 for my genesis tanks, and down to 6 for drippers, to not get over-nic'ed (and to avoid harsh throat hit).

you do, however, get much more intense flavor and vapor for the same reason.
 

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:confused: and the point of that was??

I mean I understand some cloud to help when transitioning from smoking to vaping....
don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the vape and can actually vape out nostrils whereas when I smoked I couldn't do that without setting off my allergies...but just cuz I don't always see a cloud doesn't mean I'm not vaping...

I guess I really just don't get it...is it a man thing?
lmfao now I could understand blowing cloud rings...that's talent and fun...but just clouds seems like a waste of a good vape.

I personally wouldn't do that - but obviously the point was to see how big a cloud he could get. Just like any hobby-enthusiasts want to push limits. Why would anybody need an rc car that can go 70mph?

I don't seek huge clouds - I prefer huge flavor. But I do enjoy the big vapor when I hit my rba with .8 ohm coil and 2mm air hole. The flavor is the main thing, tho - it's just a really intense and satisfying vape. I don't go below .7ish because I don't have good enough batteries (and I also don't really see a need) - but believe ppl should vape how they want.
 

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:confused: and the point of that was??

i can't speak for everyone else, but in my case, it's just something to do to keep it interesting. i've already found what i consider the "perfect vape" in terms of flavor (short did, 400 ss mesh, 28 awg kanthal to about .7-.8 ohms), so until something new and drastically different comes out, cloud chasing is a fun distraction.
 

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All the guys I see blowing these "big clouds" on YouTube do not inhale the vapor. Of course, that makes a difference.....

More conspiracy why do so many people think its a trick big clouds of thick tasty vapor are nice. Obtainable and fun to make. You guys give people on youtube way to much credit! By no means is big clouds necessary Its more in the hobby end of vaping but I encourage anybody who want to learn how to do their home work learn what batteries materials and set up you need then start fiddling around.
Its a good feeling to let out a never ending cloud that fills the room after youve built the set up. Just put in the screen time so you can do it safely and have fun!
 

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More conspiracy why do so many people think its a trick big clouds of thick tasty vapor are nice. Obtainable and fun to make. You guys give people on youtube way to much credit! By no means is big clouds necessary Its more in the hobby end of vaping but I encourage anybody who want to learn how to do their home work learn what batteries materials and set up you need then start fiddling around.
Its a good feeling to let out a never ending cloud that fills the room after youve built the set up. Just put in the screen time so you can do it safely and have fun!

No "conspiracy" on my end, just observation. I vape for what I will be inhaling, not exhaling......I'm sure it would be a cool way to show what your build could do, but I wouldn't sit around just blowing vapor. lol
 
The intensity of the throat hit drops significantly after the first few drags using high nic. Used to smoke nothing but parliament full flavored cigs and can't get away with anything less than 18mg nic.

An alternative to dual coil if you don't want to drill that second air hole would be to use a twisted wire setup.

A lot of the claims that the videos on YouTube use lighting tricks and that they don't inhale, are just plain ignorant. Huge clouds are easily achieved if you know what you're doing. Most of the the videos are made by accomplished and experienced vapers that have honed the art of coil wrapping.
 
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