Producing large vapor clouds

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D. Waterhouse

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I don't see what all the hate is about, remember, this as much a hobby as it is a way to quit smoking. All hobbies have a range of experience and interest levels, some people like to just putter along, some like to go BIG. That being said I've never had a better vaping experience in terms of flavor, vapor, ease of daily set-up, ease of cleaning, and reliability than my igo s on my sigelei 20 with a 1ohm coil and cotton ball wick. I don't chase clouds but if the happen to show up all the better. :)
 

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since they vaporize more juice, sub-ohm coils deliver more nicotine per unit time than more traditional methods. i had to step down from 18 to 12 for my genesis tanks, and down to 6 for drippers, to not get over-nic'ed (and to avoid harsh throat hit).

you do, however, get much more intense flavor and vapor for the same reason.
This whole post is absolutely true. I vape 18 mg with my VV's with RDA's, and drop it down to 6 mg with my Pinoy setups. I actually get more nic and flavor with the Pinoy setup. And of course CLOUDS!!!!
 

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I prefer good flavor rather than a huge cloud of vapor. These past days have been very cold and very humid, and I've been getting monstrous vapor from my 1.3 ohm iGo L on 10W...


First off I want to apologize if I came across as a Nerdy jackass... I am still new to Vaping... It helped me stop my smoking and then the more i researched it through videos on youtube and stuff the more I saw people doing cool tricks and stuff like that so I was like SWEET i would like to try that I have actually gotten quite good at blowing vapor bubbles as cheesy as that sounds....

Secondly this post must have been made directly for me because I have an IGO-L and I kicked up the power and the results were pretty drastic :)
 

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The thing to remember with any atty, especially RBAs is F.A.C.T.: (wick)Feed, Airflow, and Coil Temp. You can get clouds with just about any set up, but there are physical limits. I've seen some decent clouds from guys using a 306 or a .357 but they don't come anywhere near the dual coil sub ohm bored out RDAs. So all you need to remember is that there is a balance, you need fast wick feed, open but balanced airflow, and hot coil temp. This T.O.V.E. (triangle of vaping efficiency) is raised or lowered to suit your gear. The guys getting big clouds bore out their airholes (around 2mm), have super hot coils (around .6 or less ohms) and use really fat wicks to deliver juice fast enough to not starve their wick and coil.

I read all the time vapers who wonder why their 2.5 ohm whatever isn't giving a big clouds even if they push the volts up on their mod, all they get is burned taste. It's not one thing but all 3 factors that dictate vapor production. Their 510 connector breathers (atties that get their airflow through holes in the 510 connecter) just can't supply enough air over their single strand 2mm silica no matter how many volts they pump through the coils. It's simple physics.

I can get good clouds off a fresh clearo, and it may look impressive on a pict, especially when the light source is infront of the cloud to make it look more opaque than it really is. But it isn't close to that warm thick milky london fog pea soup cloud you get from a dual coil dripper with a fat coil with twin 2mm airholes. True, the more VG you use the thicker it is, and Ive always been a VG vapor; I don't give a crap about throat hit (being a hookah enthusiast for a couple decades, I know what real clouds look like and if you get throat hit from a hookah, you are doing it wrong, heh), But I can get decent clouds from a 50/50 mix; the gear is more important than the liquid mixture in production. And yes, I dropped my nic from 18 to 6-8mg since cloud chasing. And the stuff about not getting a desirable flavor from big clouds, that would be a big false. Again, it's about your set up. On a dual coil, I make a U shaped squid wick and get way way more flavor than I ever got on a Vivi/clearo/atty/etc. So if you do all your research, understand the inherent dangers and take the necessary precautions, get rid of the mouth draw mentality, and kit up with the right gear, you will no longer be asking "how do I get big clouds", but rather "why hasn't someone told me about this sooner?!" haha cheers mate.

Excellent post, thank you Kahuna! A world of information here.
 
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