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Why cant people like what they like without having labels placed on them?
We all know that non-smokers can be extremely judgmental of smokers yet I see vapers are extremely judgmental of other vapers.
What I don't understand is why.
Based on the analogy used here, anyone with an eGo is serious about quitting smoking but someone with a ProVari just wants to be noticed.
These put downs on how other people vape seem to be the common theme.
Why does it matter how someone else vapes?
Is it interfering somehow in how you vape?
His analogy doesn't say that at all. In fact he mentioned nothing about devices. YOU did. Read his comment again. He compared vaping to people who put noise makers on their muffler or do other such nonsense to their vehicle to be noticed rather than to make the vehicle work better. And his point is that, just like those mufflers, big clouds are not necessary for one to have a satisfying vape.
He never said anything about which device one would use to get that vape.
Well said the true propose for this stuff is to quit smoking. While some people might use some common since in public our enemy is not among us our biggest threat at this time is some of the disposable cigalike company's trying to dominate the market threw legislation. They dont care what you want they want you to buy their expensive product with no competition.
Ummm..I THINK you MEANT to say "more VG...."!!
oh holy cow, you're right! I did mean to say VG,,,,,,,
smacks head on wall,,,,,,,,
I ride a motorcycle with factory mufflers. The group that thinks "loud pipes" are cool have pretty much ruined it for the rest of us (and no, "loud pipes don't save lives". I don't want to hear you comming down the street at 120 db and most others don't either. The violent anti smokers anti vapers will always hate us but there is a much larger group that are not committed one way or the other. We just don't need to give them a reason to join the "haters".
I'm against it, don't care what you're doing, I'm still against it! (or welcome to Utah, it's a way of life here)
As for me, I don't care what you vape .... as long as you don't do something stupid, and make things worse for the rest of us.
I don't like the "Vapor cloud = better vaping" because that huge cloud pisses people off that don't smoke/vape, and they are the ones that make the rules around here.
As for me, I don't care what you vape .... as long as you don't do something stupid, and make things worse for the rest of us.
I don't like the "Vapor cloud = better vaping" because that huge cloud pisses people off that don't smoke/vape, and they are the ones that make the rules around here.
To each his own has been stated a few times in this post
im billowing clouds and I can fine tune them for social setting
its easy just make a tongue straw and blow out the vapor through it, it kills almost all the vapor output
works regardless if you blow a huge cloud or small cloud its the magic stealth muffler
im billowing clouds and I can fine tune them for social setting
its easy just make a tongue straw and blow out the vapor through it, it kills almost all the vapor output
works regardless if you blow a huge cloud or small cloud its the magic stealth muffler
Those huge clouds of vape make me think of Syria and chemical weapons for some reason. How come when I see an e-cig article on TV they always show some guy with a smug look and a huge cloud? Could there be a little subliminal anti-vaping sentiment in the article? Hmmmm...maybe!
Have you guys ever been active in other kinds of forums?
This forum is mild compared to how ....-hurt and defensive/offensive members get in car forums. I was actually shocked at how many useful threads I've read through on such a large population here before I witnessed the first pissing match. On my other forums it's pathetic. Almost every new thread turns into "oh look it's this thread again" wars.
I've been meaning to express how impressed I am with the congeniality here. It really helps draw and not turn away new to vaping rookies, and anything that makes the process of crossing over from fire-burnt leaves, bark, ink, paper, etc. is a wonderful thing.
Bravo ECF.
This forum is mild compared to how ....-hurt and defensive/offensive members get in car forums. I was actually shocked at how many useful threads I've read through on such a large population here before I witnessed the first pissing match. On my other forums it's pathetic. Almost every new thread turns into "oh look it's this thread again" wars.
I've been meaning to express how impressed I am with the congeniality here. It really helps draw and not turn away new to vaping rookies, and anything that makes the process of crossing over from fire-burnt leaves, bark, ink, paper, etc. is a wonderful thing.
Bravo ECF.
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I'm with u on this, also again as I sat outside this morning the sun hitting my vapor
on exhale just right, I could see the molecular particles in my vapor mist on exhale.
After enjoying the delightful nutty taste on the inhale.
Ohhhhh waxing so poetic on the last days of summer.
Have you guys ever been active in other kinds of forums?
This forum is mild compared to how ....-hurt and defensive/offensive members get in car forums. I was actually shocked at how many useful threads I've read through on such a large population here before I witnessed the first pissing match. On my other forums it's pathetic. Almost every new thread turns into "oh look it's this thread again" wars.
I've been meaning to express how impressed I am with the congeniality here. It really helps draw and not turn away new to vaping rookies, and anything that makes the process of crossing over from fire-burnt leaves, bark, ink, paper, etc. is a wonderful thing.
Bravo ECF.
If you want to see "nasty post" go to any motorcycle forum and click on link for "What is the best motor oil?"
Apparently you need to re-read both post.
His analogy used muffler noise makers--mine used devices; what's your point?
Both are making the same point.
off topic: mufflers-- theres nothing like a tuned system and its usually louder than stock lol
sound scene for others, yes and no -- it sounds good and pleasing to ears
sound scene for others, yes and no -- it sounds good and pleasing to ears
You are missing something, yes. The reason people go cloud chasing is due to purely novelty pursuits. It is a hobby for many of them, and they enjoy producing big clouds. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. You are correct in that cloud chasing doesn't somehow make a device "better" (although better is relative), but you CERTAINLY don't LOSE nicotine by cloud chasing.
Nicotine is absorbed rather quickly through the lungs....so the more vapor you inhale, whether you exhale it or not, is going to give you MORE nicotine. SO cloud chasing doesn't lower the nicotine you get, no.
The people you see cloud chasing are generally inhaling into the lungs, just like anyone else.....and taking in much more vapor as well - so yes they ARE getting more nicotine.
That is why a lot of people who do sub ohm vaping as a hobby, and go cloud chasing hardcore usually drop their nicotine ratio. Ive seen some ppl use 0mg nicotine even though they are smokers, because they are cloud chasing soo much
Here's my personal view of blowing big clouds...
The very first thing that caught my attention when I was a teen in terms of smoking was the clouds. It has always been fascinating to me. That drew me to analogs and actually, I absolutely hated it at first. It took another couple of years for me to actually start smoking. I got pulled in by peer pressure. But immediately, I was doing things like blowing O's and other tricks.
Getting a little more personal, I got drawn into other cloud producing substances for that exact reason. The physical addiction obviously became a side-effect.
Fast forward to the present and I've been analog free since 2007. I've smoked a few socially over the past couple of years though. I don't have the nicotine cravings. Many people think they are addicted to the nicotine, but that is false. Nicotine addiction doesn't last. After a few days, it's all mental. But if you aren't quitting cold turkey, you need to cut your nicotine down slowly or that physical need for nicotine will be greater than normal. Up your nicotine in your vaping.
I sidetracked a bit there... back to the point... I personally hold the amount of vapor exhaled a first priority in my vaping. I'm not using this as a tool to quit smoking since I've already done that years ago. I'm using vaping to finally satisfy my long-time fascination, and pretty much addiction, with blowing clouds. The side benefit being that since vaping, I don't even have the slightest urge to smoke an analog no matter how drunk I am. Therefore, I might be vaping whereas I normally wouldn't be intaking anything, but it ensures that I Never do give in the the constant urge I have to smoke an analog. That's something I'll never deny... that urge to smoke never goes away otherwise.
The very first thing that caught my attention when I was a teen in terms of smoking was the clouds. It has always been fascinating to me. That drew me to analogs and actually, I absolutely hated it at first. It took another couple of years for me to actually start smoking. I got pulled in by peer pressure. But immediately, I was doing things like blowing O's and other tricks.
Getting a little more personal, I got drawn into other cloud producing substances for that exact reason. The physical addiction obviously became a side-effect.
Fast forward to the present and I've been analog free since 2007. I've smoked a few socially over the past couple of years though. I don't have the nicotine cravings. Many people think they are addicted to the nicotine, but that is false. Nicotine addiction doesn't last. After a few days, it's all mental. But if you aren't quitting cold turkey, you need to cut your nicotine down slowly or that physical need for nicotine will be greater than normal. Up your nicotine in your vaping.
I sidetracked a bit there... back to the point... I personally hold the amount of vapor exhaled a first priority in my vaping. I'm not using this as a tool to quit smoking since I've already done that years ago. I'm using vaping to finally satisfy my long-time fascination, and pretty much addiction, with blowing clouds. The side benefit being that since vaping, I don't even have the slightest urge to smoke an analog no matter how drunk I am. Therefore, I might be vaping whereas I normally wouldn't be intaking anything, but it ensures that I Never do give in the the constant urge I have to smoke an analog. That's something I'll never deny... that urge to smoke never goes away otherwise.
yes,yes,yes.
8 man huka size clouds of vap...,ah,ahem,you still there?
i cant see you.
wait a sec,oh there you are.
as i was saying.
vapor in the mist regards,
mike
8 man huka size clouds of vap...,ah,ahem,you still there?
i cant see you.
wait a sec,oh there you are.
as i was saying.
vapor in the mist regards,
mike
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I read both posts & stand by my statement. You claimed that his analogy was basically like saying that people who use egos are REALLY trying to quit while those that use something like a ProVari are using that device for attention. He never said that or implied it.
Have you guys ever been active in other kinds of forums?
This forum is mild compared to how ....-hurt and defensive/offensive members get in car forums. I was actually shocked at how many useful threads I've read through on such a large population here before I witnessed the first pissing match. On my other forums it's pathetic. Almost every new thread turns into "oh look it's this thread again" wars.
I've been meaning to express how impressed I am with the congeniality here. It really helps draw and not turn away new to vaping rookies, and anything that makes the process of crossing over from fire-burnt leaves, bark, ink, paper, etc. is a wonderful thing.
Bravo ECF.
I came from Spacebattles.com and the WoW general forum. Now THAT place is all kinds of evil.
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