Propylene glycol inhaling?

[kathyo13]

I know I'm being a bit facetious here but I find it a bit silly to be worried about inhaling pg when we have been inhaling arsenic, tar etc etc.
I am worried that e-smokers are going to be worse than reformed smokers.
eg reformed "omg that cig smell is revolting"
esmokers "omg how can you inhale that pg it'll kill you"

 

[ladybug51]

TropicalBob:

Un problema. I just started these things. First day all okay. Yesterday and today I am coughing with each pull and was told I could be having a reaction to the GP and go to the VG. I am somewhat lost now. I have COPD and not sure if that contributes to the cough and if glycerin will do the same thing. All I know is I can't smoke cigs but I don't want to give up smoking. "I" need to know how or if GP is causing the choke/cough and I don't know where to find out.

Do you know? Can you guide me where to look? I feel lost trying to walk around in here.

 

[ladybug51]

But can glycerin cause you to cough as the PG does. I have COPD and don't know if that has anything to do with it. ???

 

[ZambucaLu]

Unless other members here have had COPD and could say first hand, you may not get a good answer here. We're all just learning about the stuff ourselves...often learning by trial and error, and experience. No one here may have had this experience so again, you may not get a good answer. Sorry!

Lu

 

[Bertrand]

Just put pure glycerine into the atomizer and see if that still gives you the cough.

 

[ZambucaLu]

I think she's trying to see if someone already knows before she tries it.

Lu

 

[Reign]

Ive probrably inhaled more of it before I found out about e-smoking than I ever will with an e-cig due to smoke machines ect...

 

[TropicalBob]

Ladybug, there isn't a definitive answer because there hasn't been enough study. But we know PG kills germs (read the thread on germ-killing vapor). We also know some PG makers advise against inhaling it or getting a mist in the eyes.

I really think your lungs are just super-sensitive now, so you're probably reacting to everything in the liquid. You can buy vegetable glycerine at a health food store. It's safe to use. Try that by itself. It will make lots of vapor, taste sickly sweet but not disgusting. If you don't cough, try mixing some commercial liquid with some glycerine (50/50) and see if you cough. You have to work your way up from "no cough" to "this makes me cough" and then stick with the "no cough" formula.

Good luck.

 

[s1nt3ch]

I've been reading about propylene glycol for about a week and a half (while i wait on my blu cigs to come) It seems to me that this stuff should be ok. And as far as buildup of the substance in your body i don't think it should be an issue. This stuff is in lots of things you use every day.
toothpaste, deodorant sticks, food additives, lotions, makeup.
the stuff you really should worry about is the industrial strength stuff there are 2 different versions (industrial strength and regular) and they are both very different strengths form what I've read. I was reading one artical that stated PG is only a MILD irritant if you're working on it in an industrial setting. Analog cigs are probably a strong irritant that we sit there and smoke on an industrial level.

 

[Persecutive]

As it turns out, there have been no noticeable effects of PG inhalation, beside minor irritation. The only issues (mutation, etc.) that they have found come from when there are significant amounts of PG, which does not happen in inhalation, and certainly not in the low amounts within an e-cig cartridge. In fact, there was a study published in TIME magazine a very long time ago that showed that PG in vapor actually kills any influenza, strep, and pneumonia it comes into contact with. So it may actually be keeping you healthier. Not to mention the neural stimulation of nicotine helping with memory retention and recall. E-cigs may be the best thing that ever happened to me.

 

[TropicalBob]

Here's your thread. Read with pleasure: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/1734-germ-killing-vapor.html

 

[travde]

So I started vaping 2 weeks ago. I love it.
I have been getting these headaches. At first I thought it was one thing. Dehydration, stress, alcohol. Then maybe something else. But now I really think it is the vapping.
The headaches don't come till latter in the day. They start like 2:00 PM or 6:00 PM until I go to bed. They are not really bad like a migraine. But they are the center head pain I call it when the pain is right behind my eyes. I did not want to think it was my e-cig because I love it so much.
Could it be the PG? Maybe if I make my own juice with VG it will help? What about different brands of juice? I have only tried one kind of juice so far. The 4 bottles I got to try with my starter kit.
What do you guys think?

 

[DaBrat]

Depending on how much the OP smoked before could be lungs freeing themselves....Any black stuff in the mucus with the cough? You will be surprised what you cough up once you stop laying on a fresh layer of tar.

Having COPD I wouldn't inhale ANYTHING but air if I could but we all know thats easier said than done

 

[travde]

O yea and I wanted to add that I don't think it is the nicotine strength. I have all 11mg juice. I was a 1 pack a day person, no more.

 

[e-pipeman]

So I started vaping 2 weeks ago. I love it.
I have been getting these headaches. At first I thought it was one thing. Dehydration, stress, alcohol. Then maybe something else. But now I really think it is the vapping.
The headaches don't come till latter in the day. They start like 2:00 PM or 6:00 PM until I go to bed. They are not really bad like a migraine. But they are the center head pain I call it when the pain is right behind my eyes. I did not want to think it was my e-cig because I love it so much.
Could it be the PG? Maybe if I make my own juice with VG it will help? What about different brands of juice? I have only tried one kind of juice so far. The 4 bottles I got to try with my starter kit.
What do you guys think?

Simple - if it hurts, don't do it!

Have you been standing in the sun for too long?

Really, if vaping isn't working for you - stop!

No hard feelings? No offense meant.

 

[DaBrat]

So I started vaping 2 weeks ago. I love it.
I have been getting these headaches. At first I thought it was one thing. Dehydration, stress, alcohol. Then maybe something else. But now I really think it is the vapping.
The headaches don't come till latter in the day. They start like 2:00 PM or 6:00 PM until I go to bed. They are not really bad like a migraine. But they are the center head pain I call it when the pain is right behind my eyes. I did not want to think it was my e-cig because I love it so much.
Could it be the PG? Maybe if I make my own juice with VG it will help? What about different brands of juice? I have only tried one kind of juice so far. The 4 bottles I got to try with my starter kit.
What do you guys think?

I have quit smoking in the past and eveytime got headaches when I stopped. This could be the issue. based on what you used to smoke are you getting too much nic vaping? Remember the nic is still in there and if you are getting more nic than you're used to because its smoother, you can definitely give yourself a headache.

HTH

 

[travde]

I have quit smoking in the past and eveytime got headaches when I stopped. This could be the issue. based on what you used to smoke are you getting too much nic vaping? Remember the nic is still in there and if you are getting more nic than you're used to because its smoother, you can definitely give yourself a headache.

HTH

Wow you guys respond to posts fast.

Well I'm not sure really. I was a pack a day or less smoker. I got 11mg juice. So I am not sure if I am getting more or less nic now.
Do to the "new toy" principle I have been vaping more then I smoke.

 

[e-pipeman]

Fair enough, but really - if it hurts, then don't do it!

It can take a few days to get used to vaping.

If that's where you're at, then you can persevere if you wish.

It works for some people (including me)..

If you were smoking less than a pack a day I would try to give up entirely if I were you.

Addiction is a heavy monkey on your back. You still have time to throw it off imho.

 

[travde]

Fair enough, but really - if it hurts, then don't do it!

It can take a few days to get used to vaping.

If that's where you're at, then you can persevere if you wish.

It works for some people (including me)..

If you were smoking less than a pack a day I would try to give up entirely if I were you.

Addiction is a heavy monkey on your back. You still have time to throw it off imho.

Yea I know what you mean. I have tried to quit before. My problem is I am very much a social smoker. Most of my friends smoke. I can go a while without a cig when I have things to do. Then someone lights up next to me, like my brother. Alcohol and friends make me crave really bad. This has solved that for me.

I think maybe it is a learning curve for me and I need to buy lower nic juice.

On the up side I have not got any analog cigs in 2 weeks. This is very good for me. Also my brother has got an e-cig in the mail now. I think a couple of friends may try to quit anolog cigs because of my example as-well. I still think this e-cig was a great thing for my life.

Sorry I went off track on this post this will be my last post in this thread.

 

[Al Bundy]

O yea and I wanted to add that I don't think it is the nicotine strength. I have all 11mg juice. I was a 1 pack a day person, no more.

I think you might be vaping too much, let me explain. I started out with the "low" 8 mg juice, but I noticed an increased tendency to vape more often, ESPECIALLY in social situations. I was also a pack a day smoker, so I know the "I've smoked too much today" headache feeling well. I realized what the problem was, I was vaping too much of the low density stuff.

So I started cutting my own juice, went from 8mg to 4mg, currently at 2mg. This way I can vape for longer periods of time rather than get my fix in all at once. I don't have the headaches anymore and I hope to cut the nic level down to zero in a few weeks.

I think the hardest part about quitting is figuring out what to do with all the time you have while waiting around. I don't have a solution for that one yet.