It bugged me from an aesthetic standpoint at first. But I agree that it makes for a more consistent draw on different attys. So now I, too, actually like the design.
Protege V1.1 Coming Soon ...
- Thread starter CaSHMeRe
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
It bugged me from an aesthetic standpoint at first. But I agree that it makes for a more consistent draw on different attys. So now I, too, actually like the design.
I found the same thing "aestheticly", but have come to appreciate that "space" for a quick visual check to see if I've flooded the atty since it will be wet in that slight gap when I do.
However, I also beleive this gap is the reason for many of the "over tightening" issues causing the deforming for the contact pin and losing the connection (although I've never personally had the issue since I only ever finger tight these types of things anyways).
VapeOn,
Greg
However, I also beleive this gap is the reason for many of the "over tightening" issues causing the deforming for the contact pin and losing the connection (although I've never personally had the issue since I only ever finger tight these types of things anyways).
VapeOn,
Greg
Hey Steve,
I bought two Proteges and an extra 510 adaptor only last month.
I had to take a hammer to the 510 adaptor which still doesnt work right and for the 901 adaptors that the atomizers doesnt fit correctly on, to much extra thread and one seems loose, also I thought you where going to drill them for cartomizers. I had to spend over an hour screwing and unscrewing all of the adaptors so they would go on smoothly. As for the switches I could write a book on everything Ive tried for these and they still dont work all of the time. All that being said, I have no problem sending you some money for all of these upgrades, but not a major amount since I already spent $251.97 on these devices.
I bought two Proteges and an extra 510 adaptor only last month.
I had to take a hammer to the 510 adaptor which still doesnt work right and for the 901 adaptors that the atomizers doesnt fit correctly on, to much extra thread and one seems loose, also I thought you where going to drill them for cartomizers. I had to spend over an hour screwing and unscrewing all of the adaptors so they would go on smoothly. As for the switches I could write a book on everything Ive tried for these and they still dont work all of the time. All that being said, I have no problem sending you some money for all of these upgrades, but not a major amount since I already spent $251.97 on these devices.
Hey Micci ... There will likely be no *Trade-In* Discount, but I may offer a discount to current Protege Owners. Trading in to us ain't like a used car dealer ... haha ... Used parts = trash, not resold!
Our newest adapter is one-piece machined
What used to be our outside brass is now being machined in to the adapter
A discount to current Protege owners would be nice. I haven't used mine in months - it's just so aggravating to get the current mech switch to fire properly - either of them. It's a shame because the Protege is my favorite 3.7v PV ever when it works, it just doesn't work very often.
It's great that you're getting rid of the brass and aluminum also - should cut down on maintenance a lot. Hopefully the greater thread pitch on the end cap will stop the cross-threading I've been fighting since I got the Protege.
I would pre-order, but given past experience, I think I'll wait until the new ones come out and the reviews come in
That's funny because I got my holographic V2 a few days ago and the switch is a POS. You must have just gotten lucky. My friggin thumb is sore from having to push and push until it fires up. Really sucks that I wasted all that money.
Or maybe you got unlucky - most people are reporting that the new switch is great.
Did you put Noalox or OxGuard on the contact ring and the posts?
you can fix it fairly easy yourself with o-rings, cleaning the contacts, using oxguard, ect. (check troubleshooting and other threads)
all mods require maintenance, although I agree your switch should be working as it new.
if you can't fix it yourself (or simply don't want to), open a ticket and steve will make it right for you.
NO, all mods do NOT require maintenance. I have had my Chuck since September and have never done anything to it, still works perfectly. My 2 Silver Bullets require ONLY noalox on the threads once or twice a month, I wouldn't call that maintenance.
If you look at something that someone designed, you can often "read" their engineering and see what they did and how they did it. Looking at the gap between the atomizer's bottom and the end of the adapter on the protege shows that it is brilliant engineering.
Sure, the gap allows you to see if juice is leaking out but more importantly, by leaving the holes in a 510 atomizer completely open, it gives you an unrestricted draw which means you the user control how fast you want air to go through the atomizer and not someone sitting at a drawing table.
It is unfortunate that the gap might have caused some people to become ham-handedly confused about how tightly they should screw in their adapters but what you get in exchange in terms of function is really, really good; unlike anything else I've seen and I've been looked hard for a while now.
Or maybe you got unlucky - most people are reporting that the new switch is great.
Did you put Noalox or OxGuard on the contact ring and the posts?
I guess I'll go spend more money on either one or both of those to see if that works. I shoulda got a CHUCK!!
LOL!! every time I get "the latest and greatest", 2 weeks later they come out with a better AND CHEAPER version!
There's another Steve that does this to me on a regular basis (Jobs) lol!
There's another Steve that does this to me on a regular basis (Jobs) lol!
I am still a little confused. The only thing my Protégé needs is a new switch [as well as the backup I bought]. Are you are saying the new switches are NOT going to be able to just dropped into existing Protégé’s?
I have owned my Protégé for a little more then 30 days. Actually, from the date it shipped from you till the day it got here is almost exactly 30 days. I ordered an extra switch, which I am glad because the one that came in the unit basically does not work even with all the tips posted here tried.
The second (backup switch) is in the unit now and works "ok" at best, though still not what it should.
My questions:
1) As stated above this unit is about 30 days old. Are the switches (both of them) going to be replaced? What would the cost for this replacement be considering the age of the unit and problems from day one?
2) You mentioned retrofitting the old unit with the new switch and how you would need the unit back. How does this affect the backup switch I bought which also needs to be replaced; does it too need to be retrofitted and will I be able to swap out the one in the unit if it fails without having to send it back? If that’s the case then I bought an extra back up switch for nothing accept to have it used to replace the unusable one that [unknowingly] came in the unit.
3) What’s the process to get this handled?
In an ideal world two switches would be sent out, I would just stick one in the Protégé and it would work. I would then send the broken two back to PS and have a beautifully fully functional unit sitting here. Nothing in life ever seems to be that easy…
+1
Too freakin’ true... This switch fix was needed though, so to be an exact comparison Apple would have to sell you an iPod with a click wheel that only worked 30% of the time. Witty analogy though : )
I have owned my Protégé for a little more then 30 days. Actually, from the date it shipped from you till the day it got here is almost exactly 30 days. I ordered an extra switch, which I am glad because the one that came in the unit basically does not work even with all the tips posted here tried.
The second (backup switch) is in the unit now and works "ok" at best, though still not what it should.
My questions:
1) As stated above this unit is about 30 days old. Are the switches (both of them) going to be replaced? What would the cost for this replacement be considering the age of the unit and problems from day one?
2) You mentioned retrofitting the old unit with the new switch and how you would need the unit back. How does this affect the backup switch I bought which also needs to be replaced; does it too need to be retrofitted and will I be able to swap out the one in the unit if it fails without having to send it back? If that’s the case then I bought an extra back up switch for nothing accept to have it used to replace the unusable one that [unknowingly] came in the unit.
3) What’s the process to get this handled?
In an ideal world two switches would be sent out, I would just stick one in the Protégé and it would work. I would then send the broken two back to PS and have a beautifully fully functional unit sitting here. Nothing in life ever seems to be that easy…
+1
Too freakin’ true... This switch fix was needed though, so to be an exact comparison Apple would have to sell you an iPod with a click wheel that only worked 30% of the time. Witty analogy though : )
Last edited:
I've been mulling this over since reading this announcement, and concluded I feel taken by PS.
I started vaping with a KR808D1, figuring it was an inexpensive way to get in to this and see if it would satisfy me. Once I found that answer, I searched and read for several weeks about a PV that would serve as my sole device: for my needs, the Protege seemed to fit the bill.
In reading the overview of V1.1, it seems that everything has been redesigned. Progress is a great thing. But the redesign covers flaws in V1: the endcap and threads, the switches, the adapter, the machine work, basically the entire device.
It seems those of us who bought Protege V1 were the beta testers, much like Prodigy V1 buyers were for that device. Then I made the mistake of buying the useless mechanical switch when it came out. While I am grateful to see improvements being made, I am miffed that I spent the coin on the Protege + mechanical switch to get a substandard device; and am forced to pay the price again to get one that works as it is supposed to.
And don't accuse me of looking for a freebie, I am not.
My conclusion is PS makes decent products and generally has good service. However, I want a device that is rock-solid reliable and not engineered on the fly. I have learned that my Protege is not this device, Protege V1.1 may be, but I'll never know. Since I need to spend the money to get what I want, my money is going elsewhere out of concern for reliability and resentment that I bought what the manufacturer knew was an underbaked device.
I started vaping with a KR808D1, figuring it was an inexpensive way to get in to this and see if it would satisfy me. Once I found that answer, I searched and read for several weeks about a PV that would serve as my sole device: for my needs, the Protege seemed to fit the bill.
In reading the overview of V1.1, it seems that everything has been redesigned. Progress is a great thing. But the redesign covers flaws in V1: the endcap and threads, the switches, the adapter, the machine work, basically the entire device.
It seems those of us who bought Protege V1 were the beta testers, much like Prodigy V1 buyers were for that device. Then I made the mistake of buying the useless mechanical switch when it came out. While I am grateful to see improvements being made, I am miffed that I spent the coin on the Protege + mechanical switch to get a substandard device; and am forced to pay the price again to get one that works as it is supposed to.
And don't accuse me of looking for a freebie, I am not.
My conclusion is PS makes decent products and generally has good service. However, I want a device that is rock-solid reliable and not engineered on the fly. I have learned that my Protege is not this device, Protege V1.1 may be, but I'll never know. Since I need to spend the money to get what I want, my money is going elsewhere out of concern for reliability and resentment that I bought what the manufacturer knew was an underbaked device.
I don't know. I used to spend $410.00 - $450.00 / month on smokes for my wife and I. So, for me, I may have an entirely different perspective.
I can now afford to buy 2 complete protege kits, all of our juice, some batteries, another e-cig brand to test or tinker with and maybe a cool new carrying case each and every month for the same or less money than I burned every month and have something to show for it.
I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I'm always glad to see improvements. I have 2 proteges and am getting one of these new ones, but only because it's been my favorite e-cig for about 4 months now and I'm afraid if I lose one, I'll have to wait for a spare to get sent to me.
I do plan on getting mine retro-fitted if I like the new button more than the tact switches. I too was stung a bit by the first run of mechanical switches, and I can completely understand the frustration of some, but it's still my favorite mod and it's still saving me a lot of cash.
Next month I plan on picking up a Prodigy V2 to play with.
And I'm glad they just have 2 mods
If I started with the GG, I'd be in a little trouble since I'm a collector by nature
I can now afford to buy 2 complete protege kits, all of our juice, some batteries, another e-cig brand to test or tinker with and maybe a cool new carrying case each and every month for the same or less money than I burned every month and have something to show for it.
I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I'm always glad to see improvements. I have 2 proteges and am getting one of these new ones, but only because it's been my favorite e-cig for about 4 months now and I'm afraid if I lose one, I'll have to wait for a spare to get sent to me.
I do plan on getting mine retro-fitted if I like the new button more than the tact switches. I too was stung a bit by the first run of mechanical switches, and I can completely understand the frustration of some, but it's still my favorite mod and it's still saving me a lot of cash.
Next month I plan on picking up a Prodigy V2 to play with.
And I'm glad they just have 2 mods
If I started with the GG, I'd be in a little trouble since I'm a collector by nature
I wish that in that list of new features for the Protege V1.1 real venting, apart from the switch area, was included. Yes, a single protected battery is much safer than multiple and/or unprotected ones. However, please consider this feature, because just because something has not happened yet does not mean that it won't. A real explosion will be different than just venting. On a positive note, the new switches look good. I used one of the first Prodigy V2's with plastic switch and it was not always the greatest at making consistent contact.
I'm sure many will say single batteries aren't the problem and that 14500's just don't get warm enough, but I don't want to be the first one to prove them wrong either
I drilled a 1/8" hole through the battery caps, and then tapered the edge slightly.
The spring comes out with a tug and goes back in with a push and a twist and the lathe marks on the cap make it pretty easy to mark the spot to drill.
It doesn't look as "clean" as a closed end, so I understand the desire to keep it solid.
Last edited:
I'm sure many will say single batteries aren't the problem and that 14500's just don't get warm enough, but I don't want to be the first one to prove them wrong either
I drilled a 1/8" hole through the battery caps, and then tapered the edge slightly.
The spring comes out with a tug and goes back in with a push and a twist and the lathe marks on the cap make it pretty easy to mark the spot to drill.
It doesn't look as "clean" as a closed end, so I understand the desire to keep it solid.
you don't like things being improved?
my first run Protege works/worked just fine with a tact switch, and works with a mech switch. claiming we are "beta testers" seems a bit exaggerated. when the majority of a product sold performs just fine, and a small percentage have issues that can often be worked out by the consumer, then it's really REACHING to say the product is "underbaked".
sounds like you're suggesting companies should make only one device and never change it or improve on that product.
i could say the same on my Prodigy V1 and original Protege that i've never done anything to them.
exceptions do exist.
and adding noalox to threads on a device actually DOES sound like performing maintenance.
- Status
Similar threads
