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[imeothanasis]

Something you have to know about electronics in general:

At a specific number of watts, we have the following:
The more the amperes we draw from a battery, the more the loss of power to the output
The more the volts, the less the loss of power to the output.
Ampere and volts depend on our resistance, so the bigger the resistance the better on power loss

Ok, here is one more very serious advantage of Proteus that you may not know yet:
Proteus is a step down device too, something that doesnt exist on most electronics out there. So most electronics simply cant vape all the combinations and unfortunately the most common ones.

I will give you an example. This example is close to what most people vape.

watt 12
Resistance 1,0
Volt 3,5
Ampere 3,5

If we put a charged battery that is at 4,2 volts on most electronic devices, a simple "boosting" electronic will not be able to vape it because it cant push voltage down to 3,5 volts.


By only boosting the battery makes its life shorter and it reduces your vaping time too. Also you are not allowed to vape any combination you like as you see.

 

[LouEyez]

no, it will not fit 16mm batteriew wes. Also I didnt know that they exist

Hey Imeo, what size batteries do you use in a GGTB?

 

[blackwater]

Thats exactly right and then there are those whos body chemistry will turn aluminum black right away - I can hear the screams now.

You are correct!! Can you hear my scream??

 

[imeothanasis]

17650
or
2x3 volt cr123 for 6 volt vaping
or
2x3,7 volt cr123 for 7,4 volt vaping

Hey Imeo, what size batteries do you use in a GGTB?

 

[Aal_]

Hey Imeo, what size batteries do you use in a GGTB?

http://ggwiki.et.com.mx/index.php/GGTB#Batteries

Actually imeo 17650 needs a spacer 17670 is the right battery.

Plus if he has false battery he can use the 14500 batteries as well.

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[RickD312]

aal your wraps are based around a 1.5mm rod correct? Thanks

What kind of wire are you using? Forget the ohms at the moment and consider this, to spare batteries on a VV/VW you have to go thin wire because thin wire heats up faster therefore you spare batteries by reducing your watts. Watts is what dictates battery life. for me a sweet spot of 16 watts of 28 gauge wire was achieved by 9 watts of 32 gauge wire HOWEVER both covering the same amount of wick (3.2mm is what i go for which is 10 wraps of 28 and 16 wraps of 32 both with id = 1.5). Now for some calculations: 16 wraps of 32 will give around 4.7 ohms which at 8 volts allows you to go up to 13.5 watts, which is well above my sweet spot at 9 watts giving me some room. To spare batteries ALWAYS aim at highest voltage limits this way it forces you to use thinner gauge wires for higher ohms and lower wattage.

Problem, problem: Some people (including me unfortunately) notice a flavor difference between thin and thick wires. Thick wire give me better flavor. I would say go with the thin wire, don't be afraid to go 3.0+ ohms, this is what will spare your batteries, but if you notice a flavor problem and you are used to 28- wires then tough luck, go with the 30 or 29 and target it will be a trade-off.

My never changing constant for single coil is the width (microcoil of course), sweet spot being 3.2mm I will post a small chart for people interested to know how many wraps this turns out to be:

gauge	wraps to form 3.2mm
24	6
25	7
26	8
27	9
28	10
29	11
30	13
32	16
33	18
34	20
36	25

 

[Aal_]

aal your wraps are based around a 1.5mm rod correct? Thanks

1/16 inch drill bit which is around 1.58mm. Of course the number of wraps I put do not depend on diameter but the ohms would.

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[RickD312]

got it thanks gonna save and use your info as a ref. for all my builds as a base line. again thanks.

1/16 inch drill bit which is around 1.58mm. Of course the number of wraps I put do not depend on diameter but the ohms would.

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[Aal_]

got it thanks gonna save and use your info as a ref. for all my builds as a base line. again thanks.

You're welcome. I have another piece of info that might benefit you. I will try to post it in a while.

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[Aal_]

It will have to be tomorrow I cannot attach from mobile. I will post it after 10 hours

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[LouEyez]

17650
or
2x3 volt cr123 for 6 volt vaping
or
2x3,7 volt cr123 for 7,4 volt vaping

So they won't fit either I guess they'll stay in the box then

 

[Bigwhiterabbitt]

I normally use 30 gauge wire aal and usually coil to 1 ohm. I'm using silica so not a micro coil just normal wraps. I was hopeing to use 32 gauge but coiling to 1ohm doesn't give a lot of wick coverage so tonight I made a coil of 1.8 ohms using 32 gague wire but to me it just isn't as good a vape.

What kind of wire are you using? Forget the ohms at the moment and consider this, to spare batteries on a VV/VW you have to go thin wire because thin wire heats up faster therefore you spare batteries by reducing your watts. Watts is what dictates battery life. for me a sweet spot of 16 watts of 28 gauge wire was achieved by 9 watts of 32 gauge wire HOWEVER both covering the same amount of wick (3.2mm is what i go for which is 10 wraps of 28 and 16 wraps of 32 both with id = 1.5). Now for some calculations: 16 wraps of 32 will give around 4.7 ohms which at 8 volts allows you to go up to 13.5 watts, which is well above my sweet spot at 9 watts giving me some room. To spare batteries ALWAYS aim at highest voltage limits this way it forces you to use thinner gauge wires for higher ohms and lower wattage.

Problem, problem: Some people (including me unfortunately) notice a flavor difference between thin and thick wires. Thick wire give me better flavor. I would say go with the thin wire, don't be afraid to go 3.0+ ohms, this is what will spare your batteries, but if you notice a flavor problem and you are used to 28- wires then tough luck, go with the 30 or 29 and target it will be a trade-off.

My never changing constant for single coil is the width (microcoil of course), sweet spot being 3.2mm I will post a small chart for people interested to know how many wraps this turns out to be:

gauge	wraps to form 3.2mm
24	6
25	7
26	8
27	9
28	10
29	11
30	13
32	16
33	18
34	20
36	25

 

[ZeroOhms]

I normally use 30 gauge wire aal and usually coil to 1 ohm. I'm using silica so not a micro coil just normal wraps. I was hopeing to use 32 gauge but coiling to 1ohm doesn't give a lot of wick coverage so tonight I made a coil of 1.8 ohms using 32 gague wire but to me it just isn't as good a vape.

Have you considered using dual coil?

 

[Aal_]

I normally use 30 gauge wire aal and usually coil to 1 ohm. I'm using silica so not a micro coil just normal wraps. I was hopeing to use 32 gauge but coiling to 1ohm doesn't give a lot of wick coverage so tonight I made a coil of 1.8 ohms using 32 gague wire but to me it just isn't as good a vape.

1.8 ohms on mech?

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[imeothanasis]

thanks aal. I thought that these 17xxxx batteries were only 1 kind
False battery allows user to use 1xcr123 too

http://ggwiki.et.com.mx/index.php/GGTB#Batteries

Actually imeo 17650 needs a spacer 17670 is the right battery.

Plus if he has false battery he can use the 14500 batteries as well.

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[Kinotto]

imeo for the materials of proteus is possible to consider a 24k gold plating?
i think it would be great!

 

[imeothanasis]

i hate plating even if its made of gold kin. Plating will leave surface on internal or external parts of a device

 

[dutch onsea]

Aal the specs probably are correct, I don`t doubt that, but making a microcoil with 20 wraps of 34 gauge wire? That`s gonna be very hard...

 

[Aal_]

Aal the specs probably are correct, I don`t doubt that, but making a microcoil with 20 wraps of 34 gauge wire? That`s gonna be very hard...

With tension wrapping it's not hard. I don't have a pic for 34 but this is 19 wraps of 33 gauge at 6.5 ohms.

7.5 watts gives you vapor that competes with subohm coils.



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[Bigwhiterabbitt]

Just wanted to see what it was like.. More or less 10watts..

1.8 ohms on mech?

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