ProVape/Provarinati collaboration - Help pick a new design!

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Aww. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade, but a wide base would be a deal breaker for me. My provari is my out and about mod, and the wide base makes it really uncomfortable in the pocket.


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I agree here. The wide base condemns the ProVari to house arrest
 

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If I thought it was remotely feasible, I would have liked ProVape to replace the dots/teardrops on the rim of the endcap with a double Provarinati logo circling the cap, and added MADE IN U.S.A., lumen sees totus, and the Provarinati sigil to the bottom of the end cap.
At least I didn't go full blown cultist and insist that the "secret" symbols go on the inside of the cap. :p

I love that idea!!!
 

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Thought- and I THINK what others said - I don't have the fonts of course, but the ideas were

- don't reduce the logo much, but the vent hole doesn't line up with the "pupil" - so maybe let it hit empty space
- Smaller on the text
- both phrases up top lets the logo move down...

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Train2's idea (above) looks good to me. Both WWP and CASAA as beneficiaries would be great.

If PoM could throw out some other variations for us to look at, that would also be wonderful!

What a great idea in general - how cool that ProVape would like to do this!! I hope sleeping on the idea stimulates some creativity - maybe we should have a few days to think on this whole thing before voting....not to take anything away from what's already been proposed.
 

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Thought- and I THINK what others said - I don't have the fonts of course, but the ideas were

- don't reduce the logo much, but the vent hole doesn't line up with the "pupil" - so maybe let it hit empty space
- Smaller on the text
- both phrases up top lets the logo move down...

special_endcap_zps07c2f04f.jpg

That's nice. Edd sigil is off center, so even though it would be cool to have the vent hole in the eye, it doesn't work without a lot of distortion.
 

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Last contribution for the night. This is the revised logo with the lumen sees totus and Provarinati swapped. I also placed it on an actual endcap. The problem is the vent hole will be smaller than the standard vent hole, and I don't see ProVape as willing to budge on vent hole size, as that would be a safety concern. What about placing the vent holes (like the pirate/skull end cap with two smaller holes) on each side of the pyramid, where there is no writing?

Edit: again, this is very rough, and not sized or placed properly.
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Love it! Proceeds 50/50, now I have to save for 3... I also like the idea of no tear drops or something along those lines to make it look extra special.



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That's nice. Edd sigil is off center, so even though it would be cool to have the vent hole in the eye, it doesn't work without a lot of distortion.
ProVape can put the vent hole(s) wherever they want. How important is it to you guys that the vent be the pupil?

Edit: I sent another email to David asking for clarification on the following:

Can the outer rim of the cap be engraved?
Is there a minimum line width?
Is there any leeway on the vent hole(s) placement?
Can we get the extension cap engraved?

No one has brought it up yet, but I would prefer to use an extension cap, rather than an extension and the flat cap. Plus, there's all that lovely room on the sides for engraving and it hasn't been done yet.
 
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Well I don't want to offend anyone but, come on, it's me, :( which means I probably will.:facepalm:

With the vent hole in the middle they might have to use that for the eye pupil. Now looking at the other end caps out there, they don't have alot of detail in them. So I guess it has to be a simple eye.
And unless they going to paint it on, they might have to do something else to get that circle under the triangle to stick out from the triangle.

And I think the more simple it is, the better chance to get it.
View attachment 339329 Now this is just a raw image to get my point acrossed.

I would like to see the words ProVarinati across the Top and Lumen Sees Totus across the Bottom.
Because you want people know exactly what it stands for.
The All Seeing Eye has been used for alot of different things and we just don't want people to confuse it with anything else.
I couldn't get the words to follow the circle is why I left them out :(

Don't get me wrong the other eye is great but if we make some elaborate cap it might be too much or cost to much for them to make and they might change thier mind.:(
 

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If I thought it was remotely feasible, I would have liked ProVape to replace the dots/teardrops on the rim of the endcap with a double Provarinati logo circling the cap, and added MADE IN U.S.A., lumen sees totus, and the Provarinati sigil to the bottom of the end cap.
At least I didn't go full blown cultist and insist that the "secret" symbols go on the inside of the cap. :p

Provarianti sigil only on the bottom of the cap centering the eye with the vent hole. Have the words "Provarianti lumen sees totus MADE IN USA instead of the tear drops?


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ProVape can put the vent hole(s) wherever they want. How important is it to you guys that the vent be the pupil?

Edit: I sent another email to David asking for clarification on the following:



No one has brought it up yet, but I would prefer to use an extension cap, rather than an extension and the flat cap. Plus, there's all that lovely room on the sides for engraving and it hasn't been done yet.


The way I am reading this and I could be wrong, is that this idea has to be sold to the higher ups.
The Wrap would be the cheaper way to go, So if we design a cap that's going to cost alot they might just go with the wrap.
Again don't get me wrong, If they handing a blank check out then for all means ask away.
But if you want to sale this idea I think we should go with just a simple design cap like the Zombie had.
 
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Well I don't want to offend anyone but, come on, it's me, :( which means I probably will.:facepalm:

With the vent hole in the middle they might have to use that for the eye pupil. Now looking at the other end caps out there, they don't have a lot of detail in them. So I guess it has to be a simple eye.
And unless they going to paint it on, they might have to do something else to get that circle under the triangle to stick out from the triangle.

And I think the more simple it is, the better chance to get it.
View attachment 339329 Now this is just a raw image to get my point across.

I would like to see the words ProVarinati across the Top and Lumen Sees Totus across the Bottom.
Because you want people know exactly what it stands for.
The All Seeing Eye has been used for a lot of different things and we just don't want people to confuse it with anything else.
I couldn't get the words to follow the circle is why I left them out :(

Don't get me wrong the other eye is great but if we make some elaborate cap it might be too much or cost to much for them to make and they might change their mind.:(
See my post above.

With a high quality, large image, say...8" x 8", it's a fairly simple process to transfer it to a CNC machine or laser engraver. With the caps being as small as they are, engraving time per cap would be very short. It's not they are paying someone to have these hand-engraved. They saw the ProVarinati logo everywhere and came to us to ask us what we wanted on an end cap. If they couldn't do the logo, I doubt they would have asked us about doing an end cap. CNC engravers can do some really complicated engraving. Check out the V3 Flip mod if you don't believe me.
"I would like to see the words ProVarinati across the Top and Lumen Sees Totus across the Bottom.
Because you want people know exactly what it stands for."
People don't know what a "Provarinati" is, nor do most people speak Latin. You will still have to explain to each and every person the who, what, and why of the end cap. :D
These caps are for us, not "people."

Any further design input from me will have to wait until I get some answers regarding hole placement and line width.
 

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The way I am reading this and I could be wrong, is that this idea has to be sold to the higher ups.
Wrong. Just so there is no ambiguity about this, here is the full text of the email. (edit: I was asked by MonsterKenny to contact David, as he wanted to discuss the Provarinati logo)

Hi Ryan,

Thank you for contacting me.

I'm so happy to hear that the ProVari has helped you, congrats on getting off cigs!

We have seen the ProVarinati group growing rapidly and we think it's very cool.

I wanted to reach out and see if the group was open to ProVape doing a special edition end cap. It's a little harder right now for us to put the design onto the tube, with all the projects in the works, but we wanted to try for a special cap.

The other option is we could have a custom wrap created and let the group vote on the design. However we spin the project, it would be nice to get as many people involved as possible. I realize it is going to be hard to come up with one design that everyone is happy with, but if we setup a vote we can pick the top one.

I thought we could also make a charitable donation on behalf of ProVarinati, a percentage of every sale goes to a charity that the group votes on. Wounded Warriors, CASAA or any charity really. We're not looking to get rich off the logo/name and it's more of a project for you all :)
If ProVape can show our appreciation to the ProVarinati group with a special edition collector's cap and support a great charity, then that gives us a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Would you be up for being the organizer of this project to gather some ideas as to what everyone wants for the design along with the charity everyone would like to support and we can make this a ProVarinati group project.

We are open to suggestions. Once the group decides what they want, we would just need a high resolution image that we can use to make the item.

We are honored to be your choice in vaporizer and we appreciate all of you.

Thanks again Ryan!

I hope you are having a great weekend

Cheers,
David
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As for "higher-ups," I'm pretty sure that David isn't in the habit of talking to himself. As for the part of the email talking about getting the "design onto the tube," that was a separate project, though I'm open to having it put on the end caps, if that is the route you ladies and gentlemen would prefer.

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See my post above.

With a high quality, large image, say...8" x 8", it's a fairly simple process to transfer it to a CNC machine or laser engraver. With the caps being as small as they are, engraving time per cap would be very short. It's not they are paying someone to have these hand-engraved. They saw the ProVarinati logo everywhere and came to us to ask us what we wanted on an end cap. If they couldn't do the logo, I doubt they would have asked us about doing an end cap. CNC engravers can do some really complicated engraving. Check out the V3 Flip mod if you don't believe me.

People don't know what a "Provarinati" is, nor do most people speak Latin. You will still have to explain to each and every person the who, what, and why of the end cap. :D
These caps are for us, not "people."

Any further design input from me will have to wait until I get some answers regarding hole placement and line width.

Of further note, "Lumen Sees Totus" is our beloved Provarinati Eng-Latin. While we have decided it means "The Eye Sees All" or something along those lines, it doesn't. It's closer to "The Light Sees All, but it doesn't mean that either. It's incorrect. But what's a cult without secret words no one else can understand?
 

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Of further note, "Lumen Sees Totus" is our beloved Provarinati Eng-Latin. While we have decided it means "The Eye Sees All" or something along those lines, it doesn't. It's closer to "The Light Sees All, but it doesn't mean that either. It's incorrect. But what's a cult without secret words no one else can understand?
I always thought it meant "Now I get it!" or "Now I see!"
I got an email too. :)
I hope you were more restrained in begging for an updated battery tube than I was. :) ETA:Not for myself, you understand. For vapers everywhere. I am doing this as a favor to ProVape. The ProVari got me off the smokes with a little help from Aroma's WTA e-liquid. I owe them a debt I can never repay.
ETA: Dang! It's after midnight and I didn't mulletize PoM-PoM.
I feel so very lucky. :D Mullets :shudder: I was wondering why so many Provarinati appeared to be redneck white trash tonight.
 
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I always thought it meant "Now I get it!" or "Now I see!"

I hope you were more restrained in begging for an updated battery tube than I was. :)

I feel so very lucky. :D Mullets :shudder: I was wondering why so many Provarinati appeared to be redneck white trash tonight.

As I recall, someone Eddard works with claimed to know Latin and gave him the phrase. It was later that someone stopped by the ProVari forum who was fluent in Latin and pointed out that the phrase was incorrect.

Mullets - well, you have to admit Rob's avatar kicks bunny .....

ETA: I'm going to have to change my signature now...
 
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