Neither one bothers me really, I don't find one more useful then the other, the Vamo is a little faster when your using it but you have to turn it on/off when you put it in your pocket so you don't change your settings so it's almost a wash. I do find the Vamo easier to use when I am building coils on a Genesis though, it's faster to move voltage up and down while you work the coils and faster to check resistance with. I also like that it doesn't fire the coil when it checks resistance like my Provari does. Even if you hate them for $40 it's worth having one if you use Genesis atty's a lot.
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Neither one bothers me really, I don't find one more useful then the other, the Vamo is a little faster when your using it but you have to turn it on/off when you put it in your pocket so you don't change your settings so it's almost a wash. I do find the Vamo easier to use when I am building coils on a Genesis though, it's faster to move voltage up and down while you work the coils and faster to check resistance with. I also like that it doesn't fire the coil when it checks resistance like my Provari does. Even if you hate them for $40 it's worth having one if you use Genesis atty's a lot.
You probably think that there is no difference between a Sony receiver and a hand-wired, tube-powered audiophile rig either, because they have similar specs on the bench...
"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies." --Shakespeare, William
Yes the Vamo is like buying a $40 ohm tester,and finding out it also Vapes well too.
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The Ewok with the gas mask gets it!
me.
Ewok.
We are not amused.
...Okay, maybe a little bit.
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Yep. You gotta watch out for those sneaky hedgehogs & their nefarious gas attacks.
Havent hard anything from Kanthal corp. Not even a "we got your email and will be responding" I will have to try again.
Im really sorry this thread brought so much mud slinging. I had found something I didnt expect and found a way to show why. The frequency didnt surprise me, its written several places. What surprised me was that a device used on and off with a higher voltage to average a lower one. Just wanted to share my findings in case someone else may be wondering and not have access or knowledge on how to get this or see it. I wish I could have locked the thread to comments now.
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When you posted that you emailed them, I wondered if they would respond, particularly as the way you represented your question was asking for something that may take some analysis to determine.
Maybe they still will respond (although the lack of a confirmation kind of dampens hope a bit) but couldn't quickly determine an answer and sent it on to some technical employee to better answer. That employee may need to cogitate on the questions for a while before answering.
I wonder if a different approach would yield usable results for our purposes - maybe just ask what is thermal inertia for the various gauges? That may be readily available information they have documented for each gauge.
I think if we got the thermal inertia figures, we could get a good idea if coil temp fluctuations could be expected or not.
I honestly don't think it's that thermally reactive. Even in air you can actually watch the delay in the coils going from dark to bright visibly. In fluid it would heat slower...
You can also hear the lag when you fire the button even in large devices with smaller coils.
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I personally appreciate the information, if it turns out this is something that makes a huge difference in vape I think most people would want to know. I'm a little skeptical on the actual impact as I've stated but none the less curious.
I just noticed an evic thread where the software can let you setup diff voltages over the course of the button press for different resistances so your vape could be like 6v first second 7v second second, 6v or whatever you want third second... which is kinda cool if you think about it, but at the same time after reading this thread I thought to myself wow, now there's some juxtaposition in thought processes! Here we are arguing over volt fluctuations and they are trying to cause them on purpose.
I don't think it makes a huge difference, but it does make a noticeable difference.
In regards to the eVic's adjustable programming, raidy has designed an e-cig that will sense how hard you are drawing/inhaling and will automatically adjust temperature and airflow to mimic a real cigarette's draw. It has been patented, and he is working on bring it into production. Before you guys start talking about how that would be a crock of s***, please remember that this is the same genius who introduced ECF members to the Genisis atomizer concept.
In my view, 37 cycles a second will lead to a stable coil temp. However, even if the coil temp fluctuated to some degree, you would have to consider how much the temp could fluctuate before a flavor difference was noticed. If the coil temp averaged 300F over the 37 cycles, (I have no idea what temp would be expected so someone chime in if this is way high or low) How many degrees would the coil have to fluctuate to taste a difference? Would a difference of say 5% be noticeable? 3%?
Thinking about that, I wonder how much a coil temp would differ between say 4.0v and 4.1v on a provari?
Those are sort of the numbers you would have to come up with to show that 37 cycles is not enough to produce a consistent vape.
If the coil temp is not stable (big if) are the differences as much as the difference in of 0.1v on a provari? 1/2 that? 1/4 that? etc.
Thinking about that, I wonder how much a coil temp would differ between say 4.0v and 4.1v on a provari?
Those are sort of the numbers you would have to come up with to show that 37 cycles is not enough to produce a consistent vape.
If the coil temp is not stable (big if) are the differences as much as the difference in of 0.1v on a provari? 1/2 that? 1/4 that? etc.
Right, I think this is what is up for discussion though. Seems to me there are plenty other variables that would cause a difference in Vape between the two mods. I'm not so sure this is the one for the same reasons Junkman just stated. I would like to see more than anecdotal evidence personally.
Unfortunately, even if it could be proved that the coil temperature does or does not fluctuate from the Vamo's 33.3 mHz chipset, the result still would not prove that temperature fluctuations have a negative impact on juice flavor.
...In other words, you'll still just have to take our word for it.
Well if it was proved that the coil temperature did not fluctuate then I would be inclined to believe you even less, and most likely assume there was something else going on, whether it be in your mind or something else with the device giving you the perceived better vapeUnfortunately, even if it could be proved that the coil temperature does or does not fluctuate from the Vamo's 33.3 mHz chipset, the result still would not prove that temperature fluctuations have a negative impact on juice flavor.
...In other words, you'll still just have to take our word for it.
The "something else" has already been demonstrated in the very first post in this thread.Well if it was proved that the coil temperature did not fluctuate then I would be inclined to believe you even less, and most likely assume there was something else going on, whether it be in your mind or something else with the device giving you the perceived better vape
Yeah except that hasn't been proven to have any real effect on the vapor, which is exactly what we are discussing?
Seems to me like this has come to a point where it's one of those you have to try it to believe it things. You can tell a smoker all day about how great vaping is, but in the end, they're going to have to try it to believe it. Same with just about everything else in the world. When it comes to perception, everybody is different That's what we're talking about at this point right, perception of vapor?
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